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Artesimo
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany546 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-01 19:00:12
July 01 2016 18:59 GMT
#661
On July 01 2016 22:50 hexhaven wrote:
Beastmen will be added at some point almost certainly. There's been teasers about them.


If you referring to this picture imgur.com is is alreaddy confirmed that this was "only" a teaser for the Blood for the Bloodgod-DLC. If you are referring to the repeated statement of them including every major race over the course of the trilogy you would be probably right.


Completely unrelated to that and to this threat, what the fuck is wrong with all the hate regarding the gore-DLC not being for free? First of all, with the age-rating Creative Assembly would have a pretty solid argument for it not being free, even if they were completely non capitalistic altruistic.
However they are a company ffs, of course they are about profit. Sure they already returned their investment with the base game but it’s not about just evening out their investments... Plus 2,50€ as a price tag is seriously nothing to rage about... that’s like some bad fast food, some soda or roughly 2 energy drinks minus pledge for the cans. Or some ice cream. If you rage so hard about 2,50€ I seriously wonder how you could afford a 60€ game. You could argue about the Chaos fraction being behind a paywall 1 week after release and about their worth but this? If you like it buy it, otherwise don't. The price tag seems more then reasonable to me, like if you own CSGO you will be able to afford it through profits from ingame drops in not time etc. . Stop being such entitled little cunts and accept that game developers are in for the money and not some altruistic fucks that just want to spread games and making them try to appear like that because of your expectations. But no, of course you are right, they should even start to split all the profits of the game amongst the buyers and make the game free from here on.
The internet reduced public outrage to a test for basic intelligence rather than an indicator that something is wrong...

Sorry for the rant, but after having to listen to multiple retarded arguments about this I had to vent…

EDIT:
On July 02 2016 03:45 Jerubaal wrote:
Sorry, traveling right now. Are all the new units and balance changes in the game already or are they coming in another patch/DLC?


Changes are active with this patch as well as the addition of blood knights.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17267 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-01 20:37:40
July 01 2016 20:25 GMT
#662


This is some ridiculous stuff right there

On July 01 2016 22:50 hexhaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2016 23:47 plated.rawr wrote:
On June 30 2016 23:44 Godwrath wrote:
So first DLC, the gore DLC.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/404011/#

Awww, I thought you meant beastmen, as with their ungors and bestigors etc. units. Shame it wasn't that.

I can do without gore, so I'll pass.


Beastmen will be added at some point almost certainly. There's been teasers about them.


Beastmen = DLC 3
Wood Elves = DLC 5

That's what's been revealed by data mining the game files.

I really hope that they come soon. I'm not sure how to count it. Is BftBG DLC 1 or were WoC DLC 1?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Artesimo
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany546 Posts
July 01 2016 20:41 GMT
#663
On July 02 2016 05:25 Manit0u wrote:
Beastmen = DLC 3
Wood Elves = DLC 5

That's what's been revealed by data mining the game files.

I really hope that they come soon. I'm not sure how to count it. Is BftBG DLC 1 or were WoC DLC 1?


You got some source on the DLC-List? Because as far as I know a big part of the datamining stuff is straight up outdated stuff from the early development phase.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17267 Posts
July 01 2016 21:36 GMT
#664
On July 02 2016 05:41 Artesimo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2016 05:25 Manit0u wrote:
Beastmen = DLC 3
Wood Elves = DLC 5

That's what's been revealed by data mining the game files.

I really hope that they come soon. I'm not sure how to count it. Is BftBG DLC 1 or were WoC DLC 1?


You got some source on the DLC-List? Because as far as I know a big part of the datamining stuff is straight up outdated stuff from the early development phase.


https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/178162/dlc-unearthed

Published on June 14th. Make of it what you will but my hopes are high.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
July 01 2016 22:15 GMT
#665
Wood elves are the only thing i ever wished for., They can even be put on the current campaign map.
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
July 01 2016 22:29 GMT
#666
On July 02 2016 07:15 Godwrath wrote:
Wood elves are the only thing i ever wished for., They can even be put on the current campaign map.

then get your money ready
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 01 2016 23:28 GMT
#667
Sounds good to me, I like paying for work.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3253 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-02 02:38:40
July 02 2016 00:08 GMT
#668
On July 02 2016 03:59 Artesimo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2016 22:50 hexhaven wrote:
Beastmen will be added at some point almost certainly. There's been teasers about them.


If you referring to this picture imgur.com is is alreaddy confirmed that this was "only" a teaser for the Blood for the Bloodgod-DLC. If you are referring to the repeated statement of them including every major race over the course of the trilogy you would be probably right.


Completely unrelated to that and to this threat, what the fuck is wrong with all the hate regarding the gore-DLC not being for free? First of all, with the age-rating Creative Assembly would have a pretty solid argument for it not being free, even if they were completely non capitalistic altruistic.
However they are a company ffs, of course they are about profit. Sure they already returned their investment with the base game but it’s not about just evening out their investments... Plus 2,50€ as a price tag is seriously nothing to rage about... that’s like some bad fast food, some soda or roughly 2 energy drinks minus pledge for the cans. Or some ice cream. If you rage so hard about 2,50€ I seriously wonder how you could afford a 60€ game. You could argue about the Chaos fraction being behind a paywall 1 week after release and about their worth but this? If you like it buy it, otherwise don't. The price tag seems more then reasonable to me, like if you own CSGO you will be able to afford it through profits from ingame drops in not time etc. . Stop being such entitled little cunts and accept that game developers are in for the money and not some altruistic fucks that just want to spread games and making them try to appear like that because of your expectations. But no, of course you are right, they should even start to split all the profits of the game amongst the buyers and make the game free from here on.
The internet reduced public outrage to a test for basic intelligence rather than an indicator that something is wrong...

Sorry for the rant, but after having to listen to multiple retarded arguments about this I had to vent…

EDIT:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2016 03:45 Jerubaal wrote:
Sorry, traveling right now. Are all the new units and balance changes in the game already or are they coming in another patch/DLC?


Changes are active with this patch as well as the addition of blood knights.

Totally agree to your rant, I really didn't get the hate. It's 2,5€ ffs. And it has some custom events and they just released a big patch for free. Developers got to live somehow too.

I'm totally on the "day 1 chaos dlc was a dick move"-train, but that's no reason to hate them for everything they do afterwards.

Heard that pistoliers and other black powder units are dealing heavy friendly fire and should definitely not be deployed behind your lines. True? Also still true if they are shooting down from a hill? Do they hit each other in one stack if I don't stretch them out enough?
low gravity, yes-yes!
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
July 02 2016 00:14 GMT
#669
On July 02 2016 08:28 Plansix wrote:
Sounds good to me, I like paying for work.

yep all good work, like the new blood and gore dlc. yeah lets pay for blood and stuff in a war game, sounds reasonable bro
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 02 2016 01:40 GMT
#670
On July 02 2016 09:14 MotherOfRunes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2016 08:28 Plansix wrote:
Sounds good to me, I like paying for work.

yep all good work, like the new blood and gore dlc. yeah lets pay for blood and stuff in a war game, sounds reasonable bro

Then don't problem solved.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
July 02 2016 06:09 GMT
#671
At least the chaos dlc was free the first week - better than the normal bullshit we get with preorder content (still not very nice though but...).
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 02 2016 06:15 GMT
#672
It's a lot easier to justify the rating if the Gore unlock is paid. I mean, it's $3 and doesn't affect gameplay in anyway.

Personally I find it a tad distracting. I wonder if I can turn off the blood but keep the special deaths.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Artesimo
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany546 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-02 07:05:28
July 02 2016 06:57 GMT
#673
On July 02 2016 09:08 Blackfeather wrote:
Heard that pistoliers and other black powder units are dealing heavy friendly fire and should definitely not be deployed behind your lines. True? Also still true if they are shooting down from a hill? Do they hit each other in one stack if I don't stretch them out enough?


Ranged units don't deal friendly fire to themselves (unless they are using explosives and the enemy is that close) and don’t hinder their own line of fire. Friendly fire is very much a thing though, but if you are fighting on a hill with the enemy being uphill you often are able to shoot over your units.
After the initial firing on the enemy while he advances, just pull your handgunners back and wait until the engagement happens, then move your handgunners to the flank and shoot him in the side/back.
Shooting an enemy unit that is engaged in the back will also occasionally result in some friendly fire to the unit engaging them from the front, but it is totally unneglectable in comparison to the damage to health and moral that your enemy will suffer.
You can also do some more advanced stuff like retreating individual units in a way that the chasing troop ends up in a setup crossfire.

Archers deal friendly fire aswell but since they fire in an arc it happens much less.
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland931 Posts
July 02 2016 08:47 GMT
#674
On July 02 2016 03:59 Artesimo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2016 22:50 hexhaven wrote:
Beastmen will be added at some point almost certainly. There's been teasers about them.


If you referring to this picture imgur.com is is alreaddy confirmed that this was "only" a teaser for the Blood for the Bloodgod-DLC. If you are referring to the repeated statement of them including every major race over the course of the trilogy you would be probably right.



I was actually, thanks for the clarification.
WriterI shoot events. | http://www.jussi.co/esports
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-02 09:28:39
July 02 2016 09:28 GMT
#675
On July 02 2016 05:25 Manit0u wrote:

Beastmen = DLC 3
Wood Elves = DLC 5

That's what's been revealed by data mining the game files.

I really hope that they come soon. I'm not sure how to count it. Is BftBG DLC 1 or were WoC DLC 1?

I think It counts Chaos DLC as DLC 1. Look at the datamined image you linked, you will see chaos trolls as DLC1.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17267 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-02 14:34:39
July 02 2016 14:30 GMT
#676
Some more info from data mining:

DLC 3 - Beastmen
DLC 5 - Wood Elves
DLC 8 - Tomb Kings
DLC 10 - Skaven
DLC 13 - Chaos Dwarfs
DLC 15 - Ogre Kingdoms
EXP 1 - High Elves, Dark Elves, Lizardmen (basically adding the entire continent to the west)
EXP 2 - Daemons of Chaos (Khorne, Nurgle, Slaanesh, Tzeench)

Not sure how reliable that is, but it makes sense strutcture-wise (dlc's filling out the Old World and closest neighbours, expansions adding more of the world). Beastmen and Wood Elves are pretty much what I was hoping for from the beginning since they would be the easiest to put on the current map.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 02 2016 14:38 GMT
#677
Really excited for wood elves. Hopefully all the races will be as different to play as the 4 primary races.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17267 Posts
July 02 2016 15:12 GMT
#678
On July 02 2016 23:38 Plansix wrote:
Really excited for wood elves. Hopefully all the races will be as different to play as the 4 primary races.


Well, I guess that Beastmen will be pretty similar to Greenskins but WE will most likely be very unique with plentiful archers and plenty of aerial units for kiting, in addition some super tough Treemen. Could be awesome.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-02 15:41:09
July 02 2016 15:40 GMT
#679
ppl complaining about dlc lol..
gamers feeling entitled yet again
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10717 Posts
July 02 2016 15:42 GMT
#680
Well.. "Basic" Gore used to be just a really normal feature.


Its cheap so i don't care but making eerything a DLC is awefull anyway.

Btw: I want Skaven
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