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Been messing around with mods.
Right now I'm having a lot of fun with a Very Hard Mousillion Campaign, with
Less AI Cheating | Radious Mod | Full cost March | Conquer Anything(Exclusing Norse) | Factions Unlocker Campaign Vampire
I also removed the morale penalty/bonus from difficulty in battles.
Start of the game was pretty brutal, being surrounded by humans who really just want to kill you.
Got a bit smoother, but now, after chaos is dead, the world declared war and I'm kinda scared of the dwarves who have the entire south-east and are running around with 12 stacks.
Fun!
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On June 24 2016 06:48 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
It barely matters how good the infantry is compared for good hammer/anvil playstyle aka flanking if done properly.
My guess is you just use them like cavalry, utilizing the charge bonus on unbraced enemies?
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honestly think im going to use the "less hero action" mod for my very hard run on empire. This is getting out of control. There are like 15 heros in my territories that I just cant deal with, killing lords every turn.
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On June 24 2016 05:52 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2016 22:10 Godwrath wrote:
I do the oppossite with the empire. I just charge into marienburgo and middenland by turn 10. If i can get 4-5 provinces by turn 40 i know i am doing well (reiksland, marienburgo, middenland, nordland, stirland/talabecland). But then you're at the frontline of Chaos and Norse raids (including a gazillion of their heroes running around and ruining your day) and don't get the benefit of your southern neighbours and Bretonnia fighting them (which is a significant factor in diplomatic relations in the later stages).
Norse are very easy to deal with because they basically don't tech up. Just wall up. And for Chaos there are plenty of factions still as a buffer, but to be honest, it's not something that should worry you much, by that point you should already have 4 armies. Not to speak, that way you are basically midway from winning the campaign.
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On June 24 2016 16:59 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2016 05:52 Manit0u wrote:On June 23 2016 22:10 Godwrath wrote:
I do the oppossite with the empire. I just charge into marienburgo and middenland by turn 10. If i can get 4-5 provinces by turn 40 i know i am doing well (reiksland, marienburgo, middenland, nordland, stirland/talabecland). But then you're at the frontline of Chaos and Norse raids (including a gazillion of their heroes running around and ruining your day) and don't get the benefit of your southern neighbours and Bretonnia fighting them (which is a significant factor in diplomatic relations in the later stages). Norse are very easy to deal with because they basically don't tech up. Just wall up. And for Chaos there are plenty of factions still as a buffer, but to be honest, it's not something that should worry you much, by that point you should already have 4 armies. Not to speak, that way you are basically midway from winning the campaign.
Heh. On normal I never built more than 2 armies (just to do the epic items quests for main characters). And I don't really feel like finishing any campaign on hard+. I'm in a middle of plenty of them but the action just gets too slow going for my tastes in the mid-late game with all the hero hunting and numbly waiting for stuff.
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You like making a trust fund?
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So I finally got the game and fired up an Empire campaign (VH). Good god, the campaign map is a total clusterfuck at the outset.
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Godamn i am getting so fucked with empire on very hard. I had to reload an old save after confederating Wissenland, and the green dwarfs attacked me the next turn with 4 stacks. lol.
I also have a staunch ally in Karak Norn, They have literally prevented me from losing the campaign twice now. Once when I was spread to all fuck fighting everyone and one of the Bretonnian kindomgs attacked me, I set them as a coordination target and the Karak Norn just when down and fucked them up, saving my southern border....
Then I got into a position fighting Nordland, after I beat them, 4 full Skaeling Armies came and attacked Middleheim, and surrounded my last army with the Emperor in it, The Karak Norn moved a full stack towards and relieved me and we wiped the floor with them.
Now I cant get anywhere, because im just chasing around small Chaos armies that keep fucking razing my towns and forcing me to start the buildings over, It fucks my income, so I can never have more than a stack and a half.
I'm 60 turns in and I have like 1 hero. Because I cant afford the buildings because I spend so much on military to keep me alive.
lol I dont even know what to do. haha
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On June 25 2016 00:19 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2016 16:59 Godwrath wrote:On June 24 2016 05:52 Manit0u wrote:On June 23 2016 22:10 Godwrath wrote:
I do the oppossite with the empire. I just charge into marienburgo and middenland by turn 10. If i can get 4-5 provinces by turn 40 i know i am doing well (reiksland, marienburgo, middenland, nordland, stirland/talabecland). But then you're at the frontline of Chaos and Norse raids (including a gazillion of their heroes running around and ruining your day) and don't get the benefit of your southern neighbours and Bretonnia fighting them (which is a significant factor in diplomatic relations in the later stages). Norse are very easy to deal with because they basically don't tech up. Just wall up. And for Chaos there are plenty of factions still as a buffer, but to be honest, it's not something that should worry you much, by that point you should already have 4 armies. Not to speak, that way you are basically midway from winning the campaign. Heh. On normal I never built more than 2 armies (just to do the epic items quests for main characters). And I don't really feel like finishing any campaign on hard+. I'm in a middle of plenty of them but the action just gets too slow going for my tastes in the mid-late game with all the hero hunting and numbly waiting for stuff.
I know the feeling. After the first one, i dont run campaigns to completion anymore. Early and its midgame transition is where the fun is for me. What i did with the empire was to be able to close out the campaign very fast for that reason.
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On June 26 2016 00:19 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 00:19 Manit0u wrote:On June 24 2016 16:59 Godwrath wrote:On June 24 2016 05:52 Manit0u wrote:On June 23 2016 22:10 Godwrath wrote:
I do the oppossite with the empire. I just charge into marienburgo and middenland by turn 10. If i can get 4-5 provinces by turn 40 i know i am doing well (reiksland, marienburgo, middenland, nordland, stirland/talabecland). But then you're at the frontline of Chaos and Norse raids (including a gazillion of their heroes running around and ruining your day) and don't get the benefit of your southern neighbours and Bretonnia fighting them (which is a significant factor in diplomatic relations in the later stages). Norse are very easy to deal with because they basically don't tech up. Just wall up. And for Chaos there are plenty of factions still as a buffer, but to be honest, it's not something that should worry you much, by that point you should already have 4 armies. Not to speak, that way you are basically midway from winning the campaign. Heh. On normal I never built more than 2 armies (just to do the epic items quests for main characters). And I don't really feel like finishing any campaign on hard+. I'm in a middle of plenty of them but the action just gets too slow going for my tastes in the mid-late game with all the hero hunting and numbly waiting for stuff. I know the feeling. After the first one, i dont run campaigns to completion anymore. Early and its midgame transition is where the fun is for me. What i did with the empire was to be able to close out the campaign very fast for that reason.
My favorite part of the campaign is the early part where you are struggling to survive and one overextension could cause one of your couple of cities to die.
Once you get in a good position you have so much land that if you build walls, you can't really die.
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Goddamn. I've failed three campaigns in a row as Empire on very hard. I keep overextending just a little bit (mainly going into the north) and getting punished badly for it as I get backstabbed repeatedly by the other human factions. Seriously, fuck those guys. I want to fight some non-humans. I'm going to try again, and this time leave the Reikland as my northern border. Altdorf is damn near impossible for anyone to take, so at least I know it will be secure. I'll then try pushing west.
EDIT: So I start a new one, and like 3 factions randomly declared war on me within the first 3 turns. WTF.
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On June 26 2016 14:29 xDaunt wrote:
Goddamn. I've failed three campaigns in a row as Empire on very hard. I keep overextending just a little bit (mainly going into the north) and getting punished badly for it as I get backstabbed repeatedly by the other human factions. Seriously, fuck those guys. I want to fight some non-humans. I'm going to try again, and this time leave the Reikland as my northern border. Altdorf is damn near impossible for anyone to take, so at least I know it will be secure. I'll then try pushing west.
EDIT: So I start a new one, and like 3 factions randomly declared war on me within the first 3 turns. WTF.
Declare war on breton factions at the beginning and leave the north. they are not dense enough for you to stop chaos armies from just waltzing past your armies and raze unprotected settlements.
Also try to make early alliances with dwarf factions and northern human factions. To the southwest you have a lot of territory that is far away from chaos raids.
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On June 26 2016 14:29 xDaunt wrote:
Goddamn. I've failed three campaigns in a row as Empire on very hard. I keep overextending just a little bit (mainly going into the north) and getting punished badly for it as I get backstabbed repeatedly by the other human factions. Seriously, fuck those guys. I want to fight some non-humans. I'm going to try again, and this time leave the Reikland as my northern border. Altdorf is damn near impossible for anyone to take, so at least I know it will be secure. I'll then try pushing west.
EDIT: So I start a new one, and like 3 factions randomly declared war on me within the first 3 turns. WTF.
Hmm, how many casualties are you having on the first battles ? It's kinda the only factor on wether you will get DoW or not is if you are losing too many troops on the manual battles. Losing around 100 between the two first battles is acceptable, anything worse i guess can be challenging as factions which hates you like marienburgo won't break a sweat about going into war against you as soon as you leave some open (which you will in the first turns).
Also trade agreements are key to keep your backyard safe.
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On June 26 2016 19:41 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 14:29 xDaunt wrote:
Goddamn. I've failed three campaigns in a row as Empire on very hard. I keep overextending just a little bit (mainly going into the north) and getting punished badly for it as I get backstabbed repeatedly by the other human factions. Seriously, fuck those guys. I want to fight some non-humans. I'm going to try again, and this time leave the Reikland as my northern border. Altdorf is damn near impossible for anyone to take, so at least I know it will be secure. I'll then try pushing west.
EDIT: So I start a new one, and like 3 factions randomly declared war on me within the first 3 turns. WTF. Hmm, how many casualties are you having on the first battles ? It's kinda the only factor on wether you will get DoW or not is if you are losing too many troops on the manual battles. Losing around 100 between the two first battles is acceptable, anything worse i guess can be challenging as factions which hates you like marienburgo won't break a sweat about going into war against you as soon as you leave some open (which you will in the first turns). Also trade agreements are key to keep your backyard safe.
I always have minimal losses in the first two battles. I suspect that there's some serious RNG issues with the first 10 rounds or so of the empire campaign. I've seen the diplomacy play out very differently in each of my campaigns. The only constant is that Stirland and Tabarnoc are reliably friendly.
Anyway, I'm about 55 turns into a new campaign. I've secured Reikland and managed to hold the peace on my northern and southern borders. I've pushed into Bastonne and also sacked the weaker of the Dwarven kingdoms in the west to get money and build my relationship with the stronger dwarf faction. I still can't field much of an army compared to prior TW games. It takes a long, long time to build the infrastructure needed to field any tier 3 stuff. I was forced field a stack and a half of tier 1 stuff for most of the game to hold my borders and deter attacks (I also had to build walls in some of my minor Reikland settlements), which greatly hampered my economy. However, I'm just now starting to get a little bit of breathing room so that I can field some better troops.
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On June 26 2016 23:41 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 19:41 Godwrath wrote:On June 26 2016 14:29 xDaunt wrote:
Goddamn. I've failed three campaigns in a row as Empire on very hard. I keep overextending just a little bit (mainly going into the north) and getting punished badly for it as I get backstabbed repeatedly by the other human factions. Seriously, fuck those guys. I want to fight some non-humans. I'm going to try again, and this time leave the Reikland as my northern border. Altdorf is damn near impossible for anyone to take, so at least I know it will be secure. I'll then try pushing west.
EDIT: So I start a new one, and like 3 factions randomly declared war on me within the first 3 turns. WTF. Hmm, how many casualties are you having on the first battles ? It's kinda the only factor on wether you will get DoW or not is if you are losing too many troops on the manual battles. Losing around 100 between the two first battles is acceptable, anything worse i guess can be challenging as factions which hates you like marienburgo won't break a sweat about going into war against you as soon as you leave some open (which you will in the first turns). Also trade agreements are key to keep your backyard safe. I always have minimal losses in the first two battles. I suspect that there's some serious RNG issues with the first 10 rounds or so of the empire campaign. I've seen the diplomacy play out very differently in each of my campaigns. The only constant is that Stirland and Tabarnoc are reliably friendly. Anyway, I'm about 55 turns into a new campaign. I've secured Reikland and managed to hold the peace on my northern and southern borders. I've pushed into Bastonne and also sacked the weaker of the Dwarven kingdoms in the west to get money and build my relationship with the stronger dwarf faction. I still can't field much of an army compared to prior TW games. It takes a long, long time to build the infrastructure needed to field any tier 3 stuff. I was forced field a stack and a half of tier 1 stuff for most of the game to hold my borders and deter attacks (I also had to build walls in some of my minor Reikland settlements), which greatly hampered my economy. However, I'm just now starting to get a little bit of breathing room so that I can field some better troops.
took me about 60 turns to stabilize, and my dwarf allies (Karak Norn) prevented me from losing at least twice. Once to Chaos and once to Bretonnian kindgoms, the problem im having now (same campaign) is that I'm super far behind on heros because i spent so much on military just trying to survive. But we seem to have broken Chaos at this point... At one point i Had 1 stack with the emperor in it, besieged by 4 Skael armies, and only the dwarfs saved me. I cant recommend enough to getting an early alliance with them.
They will also help you pin down the greenskins early, which just run around and sack your settlements repeatedly. That also slowed me down
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I'd love for the dwarves to ally me, but they're making it tough. They won't cut any deals with me -- even if I war against their enemies.
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On June 27 2016 03:11 Jerubaal wrote:
Has Chaos come yet?
Their armies appeared at turn 55 in the North. It's about turn 56 or 57 now. They haven't reached my lands yet (other than the agents). I'm going to work on blitzing a few more of the lesser Bretonian kingdoms to expand my econ base (and hopefully get those damned dwarves to ally me). I've just started adding greatswords to my army, and am trying to get tier 4 stables for good cavalry, but I doubt that I'll have those for another 10-15 turns at least. I've been slowed up a bit by the need to get some Sigmar temples up to fight corruption. Speaking of which, at what percentage does corruption become unsafe?
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Give them presents until you get the deals.
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