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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
On April 23 2015 08:17 Sub40APM wrote: CA has been releasing suboptimal crap for a while now. Things to look forward to: inept ai, many bugs, unoptimized code and lots of DLCs. Which is too bad because the Warhammer universe is great. I'd have been so hyped before Rome 2 release... today I'm just hoping that the paying beta they're gonna release won't be too bugged. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 23 2015 06:23 PhoenixVoid wrote: Probably only those four because they are the easiest to create and most straightforward in a sense. I know some people are worried this will become an inevitable cash grab DLC attempt with the other races. I would rather than make 4 fleshed out races that function well and add on more later. Having 8 races with half the depth doesn't really appeal. Plus DLC races means they can keep working on the game after release. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On April 23 2015 21:32 Plansix wrote: I would rather than make 4 fleshed out races that function well and add on more later. Having 8 races with half the depth doesn't really appeal. Plus DLC races means they can keep working on the game after release. If you look at CA history you'd know that a good chunk of the DLCs are already finished pre-release, it's just a marketing tactic to milk the consumer for an access without doing any additional work. They usually keep fixing some bugs for sometimes after the release normally. On the other hand no modding confirmed on tw-center, and that sucks big time when you consider the quality of non-mod and modded gameplay :'( | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
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MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Call me old fashion, but I don't really buy into the pre-release outrage about games. I normally wait until they are released before I pass judgment. This isn't going to be like the other total war games where they can model swap and just change some numbers to create new factions. 4 distinct races with their own models, spells, equipment and massive units seems sufficient for a full release game. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On April 23 2015 21:51 Plansix wrote: I did not buy Rome 2 due to lack of time, but have owned every other Total War game and always felt I got my moneys worth with the purchase. Some of them were buggy, but I always enjoyed them. The DLC and expansions afterwords always felt like they added to a completed game. Call me old fashion, but I don't really buy into the pre-release outrage about games. I normally wait until they are released before I pass judgment. This isn't going to be like the other total war games where they can model swap and just change some numbers to create new factions. 4 distinct races with their own models, spells, equipment and massive units seems sufficient for a full release game. You avoided the worst release they ever made, so I understand your position it was the one I had before buying the beta that was Rome 2. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50529 Posts
is everything else going to DLC hell? | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On April 23 2015 21:55 Plansix wrote: I totally understand that Rome 2 was a hot mess, but they have made more good games than shitty ones. I think people can be excited about this with the full understanding they are not going to pre-order it. Actually pre-ordering it might be not bad if you get the free dlcs, then you play it only 3months after the release. Most disappointing thing is the lack of support for modding, that sucks big time compared to everything else. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 23 2015 22:01 BLinD-RawR wrote: only 4 races? is everything else going to DLC hell? Starcraft has 3 races. Same with Dawn of War. They can't model swap in this game. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On April 23 2015 22:04 Plansix wrote: Starcraft has 3 races. Same with Dawn of War. They can't model swap in this game. Do you have any guesses on how they'll handle a campaign map with four races? Or do you reckon that they're also changing that up by quite a bit? edit: Note that Shogun II only really had one real faction, and everything else was a variation of it, and it worked pretty well. | ||
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Nezgar
Germany535 Posts
On April 23 2015 21:55 Plansix wrote: I totally understand that Rome 2 was a hot mess, but they have made more good games than shitty ones. I think people can be excited about this with the full understanding they are not going to pre-order it. From the information they have released thus far it looks more like Rome 2 than their good TW games. And I'd rather have them spend another year on the game in order to fully flesh out everything and add more than just those 4 races instead of feeding us piecemeal. And no modding is a big deal as well. It's like they are saying "you folks are too good at fixing out stuff, it makes us look bad" which is true, as sad as it may sound. And it's also in order to shut down any mods that might add races that they want to charge us in future DLCs for. But we'll see, maybe some of the massive amount of negative critique has reached their ears, there's hoping... On April 23 2015 22:04 Plansix wrote: Starcraft has 3 races. Same with Dawn of War. They can't model swap in this game. It's not like they have to come up with new ideas for different races, all is pretty much already there thanks to the foundation of Games Workshop... | ||
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MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
but i dont care. i love warhammer ever since! warhammer is hands down the best fantasy universe ever created. its the most brutal, badass and epic universe. both 40k and fantasy. so i dont care what will happenhowmzuch rip-off dlcs there will be. a battlesimulator in the warhammer univsere like the total war series was something i ALWAYS dreamed about. and now IT IS TOTAL WAR......SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY ! and more dissapointing and heartbreaking than warhammer online is not possible anyway this makes me more hyped than a hl3 announcement | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On April 23 2015 22:07 Nezgar wrote: From the information they have released thus far it looks more like Rome 2 than their good TW games. And I'd rather have them spend another year on the game in order to fully flesh out everything and add more than just those 4 races instead of feeding us piecemeal. And no modding is a big deal as well. It's like they are saying "you folks are too good at fixing out stuff, it makes us look bad" which is true, as sad as it may sound. And it's also in order to shut down any mods that might add races that they want to charge us in future DLCs for. But we'll see, maybe some of the massive amount of negative critique has reached their ears, there's hoping... Do we know if they've made a new engine for this, or is it still Warscape? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 23 2015 22:07 IntoTheheart wrote: Do you have any guesses on how they'll handle a campaign map with four races? Or do you reckon that they're also changing that up by quite a bit? edit: Note that Shogun II only really had one real faction, and everything else was a variation of it, and it worked pretty well. I don't know, that is an interesting question. The green skins don't have a specific territory. Same with the vampire counts, if I remember correctly. So they might section off parts of the empire and dwarven lands to be "occupied" and left the rest of the world "off map" to be added later. The sad part for me is it will be forever before they add wood elves. | ||
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