Beyond the Scandal - Page 8

On February 06 2015 09:10 Souma wrote:
Regulation, sure why not. Paying players just for having a game up on csgl just because you think they don't get anything from playing the game when tbey obviously do? No.

On February 06 2015 10:06 johnbongham wrote:


You make no sense at all. Some people keep trying to compare this to real sports leagues. In real sports leagues, players get paid for every game they play! You can't run a 'pro' division in esea and cevo etc and have people making money off of matches when all players are not. IBP wouldn't have thrown the match if they were getting anything at all from it. It was literally a meaningless game to them so they did not care. Everybody wants to keep blaming players and have them face consequences but nobody wants to force the league admins and the developers to step in legitimize the players in a way that could prevent stuff like this from happening. I honestly don't even know what you are trying to argue.You think these guys train hours upon hours everyday for fun? They do it for the money in the end. Everybody does what they do for money. Do you have a job? If you were an hourly employee and you went to work one day and the boss said, "Hey, I know you are going to be working 8 hours today, but I thought we'd just ask you to work for free this one time?" What would you do? You keep trying to call this a 'career' yet players are not being fairly compensated for bringing the viewers and providing the entertainment that benefits the leagues and the developers. Why do people like you want to shit on the players so bad in this mess? They are humans just like anybody. Matchfixing has been prevelent in the csgo scene precisely because it is nowhere near legitimate yet. Why was matchfixing such a big deal in broodwar? Because Kespa legitimized the sport and the offending players literally had careers and bargained agreements in place! This is not the same thing.

On February 06 2015 11:10 Roggay wrote:
The fact that we are having this conversation at all basically tells you that what they said is open to interpretation.
A rule open to interpretation is not good in this case, period.

Something like the FA (football/soccer) ruling should be done, where everything is clearly defined. Two sentences are not enough.

I also don't know why you have to be so passive-aggressive Souma.

On February 06 2015 11:27 Souma wrote:

Some people think that climate change is open up to interpretation. It does not mean they're right, nor does it mean there's a real argument to be made. Also, if you consider all of this "passive-aggressive," that explains a lot.

On February 06 2015 21:10 Roggay wrote:

The fact is, you have been very douchy this whole conversation, dismissing arguments because they are not "real" and resorting to personnal attacks ("You should know what a professional is at this age." etc).

I posted this topic of discussion here because I thought we could have a civilized discussion here, which is usually impossible elsewhere, but I guess I was wrong.

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