Beyond the Scandal - Page 10

On February 07 2015 08:11 DPK wrote:


Which wouldn't even exist if Valve didn't add the gun skins update.

On February 07 2015 08:15 johnbongham wrote:



Seriously, man. Just stop. That is like saying that broodwar has nothing to do with sc2's success despite sc2 clearly being the inferior game. If you think the popularity of cs right now is due to skins and gambling and not its gameplay you are confused. People love to play CS, People love to watch cs, and now people love to gamble on it.

The NA scene is dead. Ex-IBP was the only team with even a slimmer of hope to compete against the world's best and it was blown up before it could get off the ground. Swag is a cs prodigy - there is nobody like him in NA right now, and now hes done for the foreseeable future. There is no in-game leader like Dazed right now either. Daps and adren are source heroes, who have never competed among the world's best at any time in their entire careers because they simply are not good enough and I don't see that changing. Maybe 2016 we will have some players emerge and prove their stripes like nitr0, who then go on to form a complete team, not just a team with a couple rising stars and a bunch of filler. I honestly admire the fact that you hold onto so much hope but there really is none at all right now and you are going to be feeling a lot worse about things after each and every disappointment you have as the tournaments come and go this year. I don't believe the matchfixing players should go unpunished, I think their punishment needs to be reasonable and defined and I think valve needs to make good on all the cs scene has given them to work with without simply screwing over a bunch of players who were participating in something valve has chosen to completely ignore up until this point.

Skin betting is terrible for this game. It isn't real money, and if it is, then it is illegal for many of the people currently participating in it. This will get noticed eventually, and valve will simply wash their hands of any culpability and ban skin betting like they had nothing to do with it right? *eyeroll*

On February 07 2015 08:16 johnbongham wrote:


OMG wow big fn deal valve added skins to a game that historically has always had community made skins available for free! Bend down kiss their feet and worship them! Thank you LORD GABEN for skins and the popularity of cs! What would we do without you!

On February 07 2015 09:23 Capped wrote:
I dont know why people bother arguing with this guy lol

On February 07 2015 05:15 lestye wrote:


If everything is a subjective, then they have the power to be judge, jury & executioner on any basis without being limited to something they might not have the foresight to see. This new guy is getting caught doing shady shit, but the rules doesn't cover that, so I guess we have to let it slide, amend the rules and hope to catch the next bastard.

If there are rules, people are going to ride the line. However, Valve doesn't want you ANYWHERE near that line, if that makes sense.

You could say that's complete bullshit, unfair, and you'd have a good point, but I think that's how Valve sees things.

On February 07 2015 10:08 Souma wrote:
They have neither the time nor resources to regulate that properly. A recommendation is all they can manage.

Rather them spend their time doing other stuff to improve the game. I personally couldn't care less if pros bet on games that they are not a part of.

On February 07 2015 10:12 Souma wrote:
Well they're not making rules. That's why they're just recommending. :p

On February 07 2015 14:01 lestye wrote:

It's not pointless. If they come across someone on the team/organization betting while they're investigating, THEY'RE GOING TO ASSUME THE WORST.

To avoid that, they're telling the teams, "DON'T GO ANYWHERE NEAR THERE!" to make it completely impossible for someone to implicated.

On February 08 2015 06:16 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Thank god, ESC are clean.

No Valve-bashing needed, they have to act quick before the last qualifier.