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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 22:21:09
June 15 2015 21:58 GMT
#10321
Raid finder loot 6 months into the expansion will have twice as many stats as the baseline gear for level 100 (which the highest level zone and all world content aside from tanaan is balanced around)

doubling stats creates a lot more than doubled effective power because of the way they scale together too

[image loading] woo

On that subject, how good/bad is druid DPS in CM's? He's playing boomkin and i have talked to him about DPS some but i have not researched how good the spec is. He does good raid DPS and i don't think it's a huge skill issue (i switched from 2h frost to hunter and my damage instantly increased by a huge amount with the same person behind the keyboard) but if boomkins can do much better than that, maybe he's making a mistake with ability/cooldown usage. If not, maybe feral is better by a big enough margin to justify learning/playing? For numbers, me and the other hunter were consistently (across 2 days of CM's) ~1.5x higher on damage done and some boss fights (him BM, me MM) - the recount in that pic is set to overall data
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
June 15 2015 22:25 GMT
#10322
Boomkin's bis is resto for CMs, they can do gold like every spec but they need to design the group for it and can't do any sort of competitive timings.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 22:31:51
June 15 2015 22:26 GMT
#10323
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On June 16 2015 02:03 Cyro wrote:
it might be useful if there was proper scaling to account for us gaining power. Scaling is weak to moderately difficult when you ding and then it just gets easier from there with the only improvements being toggling onto new raid difficulties - but that leaves everything else behind as when you're geared, nothing is remotely challenging aside from the last 3 bosses of BRF HC and mythic content, which is only a tiny fraction of the game content

it's easier now than ever to get gear, yet the scaling also seems worse than ever when you do have it

[image loading] woo


i wish more people here would post their interface ^_^

@cyro, druid dps seems low but would need logs to see what he is doing wrong. besides that hunter is the easiest class to play, most people switching to it do okay.

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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
June 15 2015 22:34 GMT
#10324
My interface is awful because i never really worked on it, i did minimal stuff to make it raid-worthy and i'l have to take a few sessions before 6.2 hits to add some important stuff like a focus bar, fix up hotkeys on traps etc. I was thinking of running a modifier +123456 for the second half of the main action bar for spells like traps, but that might be awkward
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
June 15 2015 22:48 GMT
#10325
you could use some omnicc for timers ^_^
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
June 15 2015 22:52 GMT
#10326
Thanks :D maybe with 6 abilities in the middle of the screen.. since i have like 6 buttons that need watching for DPS anyway. Having those + focus bar in the middle of the screen to stop eyes jumping back and forth everywhere instead of looking at character would be awesome.

Is there any addon that displays trinket/ring/cd cooldowns and shows bars for them or is that just something that you can do in weakauras? I think elvui does part of that but they bundle everything into 1 addon
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 22:58:44
June 15 2015 22:55 GMT
#10327
extracd is the addon for trinkets which is super easy to setup, u can do it with weak auras too, currently doing it myself this way but before that i used extracd



this is my "old" ui in action and the screen is with different weak aura setup and other textures etc

http://oi61.tinypic.com/28thrgm.jpg

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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
June 15 2015 23:00 GMT
#10328
What's that focus bar that you're using?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
June 15 2015 23:02 GMT
#10329
elvui, hp bar is the tiny black strip and the green one is focus, the number in the hp bar is for focus
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
June 15 2015 23:05 GMT
#10330
Ah. It's always elvui
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 23:55:48
June 15 2015 23:20 GMT
#10331
http://i.imgur.com/pxOyORl.jpg
I have like a dozen addons :/
I have mainbar on always hide because i realized im a notorious bar watcher despite knowing all the hotkeys. For some reason i just had to look at the icon of the spell im about to cast. So im trying to shift my gaze towards the middle.

Here is during mop, where dots were a thing on shadow and you had to reapply them according to trinket procs.
http://i.imgur.com/8nPiDw5.jpg
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 00:39:01
June 16 2015 00:37 GMT
#10332
I have mainbar on always hide because i realized im a notorious bar watcher despite knowing all the hotkeys


My eyes dance between the focus bar (top left) and abilities on main action bar (bottom) mainly because of the cooldown timers and to predict what i should cast 1-3 steps in advance. Much better to get rid of that behavior though


The scaling on your buff displays and main action bars is a bit high IMO. I wouldn't like to disable them entirely and i need vision correction to see font size 10-12 easily but even mine are a bit bigger than necessary and yours are taking up a huge portion of the screen
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 16 2015 03:41 GMT
#10333
On June 16 2015 08:20 Warri wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/pxOyORl.jpg
I have like a dozen addons :/
I have mainbar on always hide because i realized im a notorious bar watcher despite knowing all the hotkeys. For some reason i just had to look at the icon of the spell im about to cast. So im trying to shift my gaze towards the middle.

Here is during mop, where dots were a thing on shadow and you had to reapply them according to trinket procs.
http://i.imgur.com/8nPiDw5.jpg


what addons do u use for multi dotting bosses
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 06:27:37
June 16 2015 06:08 GMT
#10334
I spent quite a bit of time making my UI when I returned to the game. I hid all action bars and made myself all of the cooldown icons and procs I need with weakauras. Makes for a clean screen. All the cooldowns and procs appear around my character when it's relevant info (spell on cd, proc active) and then vanish. Couple bigger most used cds have a sound effect when they come off cd as well, to notice better in a middle of a boss fight where I'm trying to frantically save people from the fire.

http://imgur.com/9Ph1ReE,Wrs2VCh


First image is without targeting anything or having cast anything, the 2nd shows target frames and a couple of those cooldowns. I use Grid as my raid frame/grp frame. I guess I could hide it when I'm not in grp/raid. On my mage I have mana bar/% number right below my character on screen and on my hunter it's focus. On my warrior rage. Moves my eyes to focus always in the center.
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
June 16 2015 09:32 GMT
#10335
My shadow UI on dummies, what is missing is the boss frames (and focus frame if I have one). Also a Shadow Word: Death weakaura will appear opposite to the Cascade one if the target is below 20%.

http://i.imgur.com/REBo9wz.jpg
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And my healing frames, couldn't find many screens that actually show stuff properly.
http://i.imgur.com/JnevQOn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BDsbFfV.jpg
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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
June 16 2015 11:17 GMT
#10336
On June 16 2015 12:41 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 08:20 Warri wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/pxOyORl.jpg
I have like a dozen addons :/
I have mainbar on always hide because i realized im a notorious bar watcher despite knowing all the hotkeys. For some reason i just had to look at the icon of the spell im about to cast. So im trying to shift my gaze towards the middle.

Here is during mop, where dots were a thing on shadow and you had to reapply them according to trinket procs.
http://i.imgur.com/8nPiDw5.jpg


what addons do u use for multi dotting bosses

None specifically. I see the dots on each target via the hp bar on the right.
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
June 16 2015 14:02 GMT
#10337
On June 16 2015 12:41 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 08:20 Warri wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/pxOyORl.jpg
I have like a dozen addons :/
I have mainbar on always hide because i realized im a notorious bar watcher despite knowing all the hotkeys. For some reason i just had to look at the icon of the spell im about to cast. So im trying to shift my gaze towards the middle.

Here is during mop, where dots were a thing on shadow and you had to reapply them according to trinket procs.
http://i.imgur.com/8nPiDw5.jpg


what addons do u use for multi dotting bosses


SPtimers(RIP forte) and tidyplates, those two addons cover everything.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 08:18:44
June 16 2015 20:36 GMT
#10338
[image loading]
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[image loading]


WOD gold CM's hype!! :D i've heard those two are the hardest

having 20 seconds left on a 25 minute timer is crazy


Experience has shown, however, that if a full tier of gear doesn’t increase player stats by at least 10-15%, upgrades feel unrewarding. The compounding nature of that growth does mean that numbers will get unwieldy over time. We don’t see the need for another stat squish in the very near future, but we’ll likely end up doing one again eventually.


pre-raid 5-man gear (WOD "hc", so not difficult) = 630

heroic raid gear = 685

with set bonus included, it accounts for doubling damage, not a 10-15% increase. Not sure where they get their math from.

Stat squish soon will be needed

Unless they mean 1 tier as in.. Raid finder is one, normal is the next, heroic next, mythic next? In which case Highmaul and BRF (t17) is 5 tiers of gear
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
June 17 2015 20:50 GMT
#10339
So patch is next week, kinda weird they didn't do their usual 2 weeks notice, but then again certain MMO is getting their new exp out and Blizzard never releases stuff when other MMOs launch, like ever, totally not rushed out guys. Class balance patches inc ala start of ToT anyone?

Also fuck summer releases, seriously.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22710 Posts
June 17 2015 20:52 GMT
#10340
Blizzard has been releasing expansions and patches on or near competitors since the dawn of WoW. Nothing new to see.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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