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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 14 2015 00:56 GMT
#10301
On June 14 2015 09:27 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 09:04 bo1b wrote:
Classes:
There are some concerns with how Demonology plays right now. You need addons to play it well because of how complex it was. It also was the best all around spec, so warlocks that wanted to play other specs had to go Demonology. Demonology will be significantly overhauled in a future patch. It is still viable, but won't be the best anymore. It is Demonology's turn to be the worst warlock spec.

Thanks blizzard, always appreciated playing a brain dead spec.


All WoW specs have been "brain dead". All you ever had to do was Google the most efficient rotation and just copy it. Any kind of challenge in WoW comes from beyond just hitting the buttons.

Theres a serious difference in rotational complexity between demo and aff.

That said, I'm prepared for the next patch, I've moved my computer closer to the window so I can lick it while raiding next patch, and I have some bibs prepared for the amount of drooling I'm about to be doing.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 14 2015 01:32 GMT
#10302
On June 13 2015 19:17 Nisyax wrote:
Just realized that you can use older gear for timewalking in 'full' (scaled down) effect. Time to bust out the old stuff and enchant my dragonwrath.


Is it worth it using old legendaries ? :o

I wouldn'(t mind using my Thoridal, that'd be cool.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
June 14 2015 08:52 GMT
#10303
On June 14 2015 10:32 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 19:17 Nisyax wrote:
Just realized that you can use older gear for timewalking in 'full' (scaled down) effect. Time to bust out the old stuff and enchant my dragonwrath.


Is it worth it using old legendaries ? :o

I wouldn'(t mind using my Thoridal, that'd be cool.


Should be very much worth it, as long as the item isn't below the timewalk content. There are also old set bonusses you could use and the ICC ring is apparently godlike because the proc is not squished right.
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
June 14 2015 09:55 GMT
#10304
On June 14 2015 10:32 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 19:17 Nisyax wrote:
Just realized that you can use older gear for timewalking in 'full' (scaled down) effect. Time to bust out the old stuff and enchant my dragonwrath.


Is it worth it using old legendaries ? :o

I wouldn'(t mind using my Thoridal, that'd be cool.


Timewalking will be pretty easy without busting out all the best gear you can get. People are just excited they can use all their legendaries, stack set bonuses etc. for "current" content. If you're in a premade group it'll be just chainpulling and spamming aoe to kill everything, I feel like the novelty will wear off quickly after people realize stacking everything is pretty much the same as running dungeons in the last tier of exp gear(imagine 5 shadowmourne dps group from wotlk).
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 14 2015 15:29 GMT
#10305
On June 14 2015 18:55 DCRed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 10:32 Noocta wrote:
On June 13 2015 19:17 Nisyax wrote:
Just realized that you can use older gear for timewalking in 'full' (scaled down) effect. Time to bust out the old stuff and enchant my dragonwrath.


Is it worth it using old legendaries ? :o

I wouldn'(t mind using my Thoridal, that'd be cool.


Timewalking will be pretty easy without busting out all the best gear you can get. People are just excited they can use all their legendaries, stack set bonuses etc. for "current" content. If you're in a premade group it'll be just chainpulling and spamming aoe to kill everything, I feel like the novelty will wear off quickly after people realize stacking everything is pretty much the same as running dungeons in the last tier of exp gear(imagine 5 shadowmourne dps group from wotlk).

People still have all that old equip lying around? My bags and bank are crammed enough with current stuff already lol.
Off-season = best season
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
June 14 2015 15:32 GMT
#10306
On June 15 2015 00:29 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2015 18:55 DCRed wrote:
On June 14 2015 10:32 Noocta wrote:
On June 13 2015 19:17 Nisyax wrote:
Just realized that you can use older gear for timewalking in 'full' (scaled down) effect. Time to bust out the old stuff and enchant my dragonwrath.


Is it worth it using old legendaries ? :o

I wouldn'(t mind using my Thoridal, that'd be cool.


Timewalking will be pretty easy without busting out all the best gear you can get. People are just excited they can use all their legendaries, stack set bonuses etc. for "current" content. If you're in a premade group it'll be just chainpulling and spamming aoe to kill everything, I feel like the novelty will wear off quickly after people realize stacking everything is pretty much the same as running dungeons in the last tier of exp gear(imagine 5 shadowmourne dps group from wotlk).

People still have all that old equip lying around? My bags and bank are crammed enough with current stuff already lol.

Sets in void storage for transmog and legendaries in the bank for epeen

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-14 19:39:22
June 14 2015 19:38 GMT
#10307
Is EU token price acting weird or is that just www.wowtoken.info?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
June 14 2015 19:58 GMT
#10308
EU price is accurate.

And it seems all regions are having it. I wonder what changed?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
June 14 2015 20:12 GMT
#10309
I need to transfer gold from Twisting Nether-EU horde to Silvermoon-EU alliance - if anyone has gold on silvermoon-eu alliance, i can give you token money on other server (47k token there for 40k to me)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 04:25:08
June 15 2015 04:24 GMT
#10310
Seems like wowtoken.info or the API or the price adjustment system cut out for a day and a half. There are no data points between 9:44 PM CST Friday and 2:16 PM CST Sunday.

In other news, Blizzard has figured out a patch too late that they need to nerf garrison alt-abuse.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
June 15 2015 06:38 GMT
#10311
On June 15 2015 13:24 Seuss wrote:
In other news, Blizzard has figured out a patch too late that they need to nerf garrison alt-abuse.

Explain?
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 06:42:37
June 15 2015 06:42 GMT
#10312
"In Patch 6.2, the team is looking into having diminishing returns on an account wide level for missions that reward gold. It is a nerf, but alleviates some of of the pressure to have many alts. It is a problem when it scales linearly and having six characters gives you six times the amount of gold, making you feel like you have to log into them all every night."

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/4955-Patch-6-2-Developer-Q-A-Ion-Hazzikostas
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
June 15 2015 08:06 GMT
#10313
Hm thats a bummer. Ive set my goal to reach gold cap and keep paying the sub with gold. But yeah, gold output of garrison is ridiculous and i bet they are worried about inflation.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 15 2015 10:57 GMT
#10314
Gee if only they had a feature everyone and their mother wants that could be used a giant ass gold sink to remove gold from the game...

na thats crazy talk
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
June 15 2015 11:10 GMT
#10315
On June 15 2015 15:42 daemir wrote:
"In Patch 6.2, the team is looking into having diminishing returns on an account wide level for missions that reward gold. It is a nerf, but alleviates some of of the pressure to have many alts. It is a problem when it scales linearly and having six characters gives you six times the amount of gold, making you feel like you have to log into them all every night."

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/4955-Patch-6-2-Developer-Q-A-Ion-Hazzikostas


it is a problem


No, no, I don't have a problem with logging in for 10-15mins for a few thousand gold every day at all.
ffxiv enjoyer
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
June 15 2015 12:19 GMT
#10316
On June 15 2015 17:06 Warri wrote:
Hm thats a bummer. Ive set my goal to reach gold cap and keep paying the sub with gold. But yeah, gold output of garrison is ridiculous and i bet they are worried about inflation.


The only thing that bothers me is that Blizzard can't call a spade a spade. It's pretty clear that massing garrisons on alts is not intended, gives game breaking amounts of gold, and needs to be nerfed. Why not just say that instead of dithering about the burden of logging in?

It's like saying "The problem with being shot in the head is that it gives you a massive headache". It's sort of true but at the same time it's oblivious to the bigger, more concerning problems.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 16:47:41
June 15 2015 16:46 GMT
#10317
On June 15 2015 20:10 Stancel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2015 15:42 daemir wrote:
"In Patch 6.2, the team is looking into having diminishing returns on an account wide level for missions that reward gold. It is a nerf, but alleviates some of of the pressure to have many alts. It is a problem when it scales linearly and having six characters gives you six times the amount of gold, making you feel like you have to log into them all every night."

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/4955-Patch-6-2-Developer-Q-A-Ion-Hazzikostas


Show nested quote +
it is a problem


No, no, I don't have a problem with logging in for 10-15mins for a few thousand gold every day at all.


It's not even 10-15 mins, i have about a 10 second cycle on my DK that i do twice a day (morning and night) and she's pulling 10k a week.

The only thing that bothers me is that Blizzard can't call a spade a spade. It's pretty clear that massing garrisons on alts is not intended, gives game breaking amounts of gold, and needs to be nerfed.


They're talking about making dungeons scale throughout expansions.

Instead of making us yknow, NOT do 4x the damage of when we dinged by the time we're in first raid tier gear
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
June 15 2015 16:49 GMT
#10318
On June 16 2015 01:46 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2015 20:10 Stancel wrote:
On June 15 2015 15:42 daemir wrote:
"In Patch 6.2, the team is looking into having diminishing returns on an account wide level for missions that reward gold. It is a nerf, but alleviates some of of the pressure to have many alts. It is a problem when it scales linearly and having six characters gives you six times the amount of gold, making you feel like you have to log into them all every night."

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/4955-Patch-6-2-Developer-Q-A-Ion-Hazzikostas


it is a problem


No, no, I don't have a problem with logging in for 10-15mins for a few thousand gold every day at all.


It's not even 10-15 mins, i have about a 10 second cycle on my DK that i do twice a day (morning and night) and she's pulling 10k a week.

Show nested quote +
The only thing that bothers me is that Blizzard can't call a spade a spade. It's pretty clear that massing garrisons on alts is not intended, gives game breaking amounts of gold, and needs to be nerfed.


They're talking about making dungeons scale throughout expansions.

Instead of making us yknow, NOT do 4x the damage of when we dinged by the time we're in first raid tier gear

But then you wouldnt feel as accomplished.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 22:16:51
June 15 2015 17:03 GMT
#10319
it might be useful if there was proper scaling to account for us gaining power. Scaling is weak to moderately difficult when you ding and then it just gets easier from there with the only improvements being toggling onto new raid difficulties - but that leaves everything else behind as when you're geared, nothing is remotely challenging aside from the last 3 bosses of BRF HC and mythic content, which is only a tiny fraction of the game content

it's easier now than ever to get gear, yet the scaling also seems worse than ever when you do have it
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
June 15 2015 21:34 GMT
#10320
The problem is the scaling of ilvl combined with the amount blizzard gives out.
Ilvl scales exponentially and with the huge gaps in between tiers, Normal Dungeon to end of first tier is a 85 jump, means that the character empowerment is horrible.

The gaps should simply have been smaller. And Blizzard knows this because it was an issue even back in Wotlk.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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