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caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6429 Posts
April 16 2015 02:37 GMT
#9581
welp just killed iron maidens on somewhat of a fluke (~5 guys finished off the last 2%). next week's reclear will be fun...
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
April 16 2015 04:40 GMT
#9582
On April 16 2015 09:45 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
I mean the other option is to just buy all the mythic BoE gear which is what I did and it got my ilvl high enough to get into a mythic guild and now i'm 7/10 mythic

Mythic BoE:

Belt
Boots
Bracers
Cloak
Neck
Gloves

You then have legendary ring
You then have 3 crafted items at 680 gear

that means you only need to fill in 6 item slots


Yea, but 10% of players have killed heroic blackhand. 10% of players don't have 1-2 million gold just laying around

I think it's just way more awkward than neccesary to get from ~625 to about 660, just because there's no option aside from pugging raid content that nobody wants to do. I think they should want to do it, but that's another matter


Yes thats what im saying. Its not normal to have 30million + in your guild bank for mythic progression. Just saying that you can do it is much different than having it be accessible.
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
April 16 2015 06:41 GMT
#9583
People blame gear away to much in the progression game rather than looking at their group or self play.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 16 2015 10:58 GMT
#9584
Yes, numbers don't make up for mechanical mistakes. On our BH hc kill, we had to use an alt tank that had stepped into BRF like 2 weeks before first time, as our 2nd regular tank was at work. It's all down to not fucking up mechanics.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 11:14:06
April 16 2015 11:09 GMT
#9585
Reading the nerfs last night holy fuck its going to be faceroll now xD

Also legendary ring proc "update" makes them look even worst fml so boring.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
April 16 2015 15:29 GMT
#9586
On April 16 2015 15:41 NotSorry wrote:
People blame gear away to much in the progression game rather than looking at their group or self play.


How you play is a huge thing - however the gear scaling in this game is an anomaly in MMO's. We're in the first tier and people in the content that i want to do are doing three times my damage simply because of gear. There's no way i could go and do any content that most guilds are interested in doing unless i was simply getting carried - gotta go through the awkward chain:

heroic dungeons
highmaul lfr
blackrock lfr and highmaul normal
highmaul heroic and blackrock normal

at this point you actually start doing content with people that you know >___>
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
April 16 2015 15:31 GMT
#9587
On April 17 2015 00:29 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 15:41 NotSorry wrote:
People blame gear away to much in the progression game rather than looking at their group or self play.


How you play is a huge thing - however the gear scaling in this game is an anomaly in MMO's. We're in the first tier and people in the content that i want to do are doing three times my damage simply because of gear. There's no way i could go and do any content that most guilds are interested in doing unless i was simply getting carried - gotta go through the awkward chain:

heroic dungeons
highmaul lfr
blackrock lfr and highmaul normal
highmaul heroic and blackrock normal

at this point you actually start doing content with people that you know >___>

WoD scaling as been utterly out of whack I agree its pretty silly and something that was already warned about in Beta but it seems Blizzard likes it this way.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
April 16 2015 15:36 GMT
#9588
Blizzard really just doesn't understand math at all, it's seriously strange
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 16 2015 16:30 GMT
#9589
On April 17 2015 00:29 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 15:41 NotSorry wrote:
People blame gear away to much in the progression game rather than looking at their group or self play.


How you play is a huge thing - however the gear scaling in this game is an anomaly in MMO's. We're in the first tier and people in the content that i want to do are doing three times my damage simply because of gear. There's no way i could go and do any content that most guilds are interested in doing unless i was simply getting carried - gotta go through the awkward chain:

heroic dungeons
highmaul lfr
blackrock lfr and highmaul normal
highmaul heroic and blackrock normal

at this point you actually start doing content with people that you know >___>


Heroic dungeons are barely a speedbump. Between crafted gear, the ring quest, 615 gear from follower missions, and apexis gear if you're taking more than a week to get above 615 iLvl you're doing something horribly wrong. If it wasn't for the ring quest or needing to unlock the level 3 Inn I probably wouldn't have touched Heroics.

That said, if you're trying to catch up to Mythic raiders from there it is extremely difficult.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
April 16 2015 16:31 GMT
#9590
On April 17 2015 01:30 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 00:29 Cyro wrote:
On April 16 2015 15:41 NotSorry wrote:
People blame gear away to much in the progression game rather than looking at their group or self play.


How you play is a huge thing - however the gear scaling in this game is an anomaly in MMO's. We're in the first tier and people in the content that i want to do are doing three times my damage simply because of gear. There's no way i could go and do any content that most guilds are interested in doing unless i was simply getting carried - gotta go through the awkward chain:

heroic dungeons
highmaul lfr
blackrock lfr and highmaul normal
highmaul heroic and blackrock normal

at this point you actually start doing content with people that you know >___>


Heroic dungeons are barely a speedbump. Between crafted gear, the ring quest, 615 gear from follower missions, and apexis gear if you're taking more than a week to get above 615 iLvl you're doing something horribly wrong. If it wasn't for the ring quest or needing to unlock the level 3 Inn I probably wouldn't have touched Heroics.

That said, if you're trying to catch up to Mythic raiders from there it is extremely difficult.


625 was easy, i'm dreading 630 through 660
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 16:41:53
April 16 2015 16:40 GMT
#9591
IMO LFR shouldn't count between heroic dungeons and normals. Those of us that ran normals and heroics before LFR was even out can attest they're not necessary, they're just useful to help idiot-proof pugs.

I do think that them making Highmaul and BRF into 2 seperate tiers (that's what they did with the ilvl changes, I don't care if they don't officially acknowledge it) was a dumb idea that screws up progression royally for some people. Didn't really effect me any.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
April 16 2015 16:45 GMT
#9592
Yeah separating item levels and tiers like that was just silly, LFR wasn't mandatory for HM but it certainly is for BRF which is just terrible
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
April 16 2015 16:49 GMT
#9593
Well you have to do LFR even if you are mythic geared because Augment runes suuuuuuuuuck as a design concept
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-16 16:56:38
April 16 2015 16:55 GMT
#9594
IMO LFR shouldn't count between heroic dungeons and normals. Those of us that ran normals and heroics before LFR was even out can attest they're not necessary


I didn't do LFR on my main. I ran normal highmaul with my guild (after spending those what, 6 weeks? working on pre-raid gear)

good luck finding a guild running normal highmaul these days lol

either way - the progression is done and to catch up, you have to either pug a lot or get carried unless you have a huge amount of gold
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
April 16 2015 16:55 GMT
#9595
True that, fuck those things
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
April 16 2015 20:16 GMT
#9596
Fuck rageface. I fucking hate that stupid dog so much.
Sup.
Xiberia
Profile Joined September 2007
Sweden634 Posts
April 16 2015 20:27 GMT
#9597
I just pop an agi pot every time i'm killing shannox and kill him first, works every time.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 16 2015 20:30 GMT
#9598
Unless you're a priest or an undergeared Mage, Shanox should never be an issue.
Any pet damaging Rageface will break the stun on you instantly.

If you're a tank class, the dog doesn't stun you.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
April 16 2015 20:39 GMT
#9599
Yeah playing on my druid it's a breeze. But something's fucking wonky when I try on my rogue. I've got bleeds critting for 50k, poison that crit once for 130k, and NOTHING breaks the rageface stun.
Sup.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
April 16 2015 20:44 GMT
#9600
On April 17 2015 05:39 dudeman001 wrote:
Yeah playing on my druid it's a breeze. But something's fucking wonky when I try on my rogue. I've got bleeds critting for 50k, poison that crit once for 130k, and NOTHING breaks the rageface stun.

On my warrior I break it with Ravager, donno why it doesnt work on your rogue, Guess Dots dont work?
Would using a pvp trinket to break the stun not provide an easy answer?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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