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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
August 20 2014 18:46 GMT
#2681
Bomb does exist, it's spec specific but you can talent for it. Armors have become completely pointless except for arcane, so no biggy there imo.

Frostjaw still exists afaik, deep freeze is going to be frost specific but also still exist so i'm not sure what you mean.

Consolidating aoe is really reasonable because they are kind of a clusterfuck right now.

If by flameshock you mean fireblast, it was really really situational (basically you'd only cast it while moving and without any kind of proc) so i dont get what the big deal is there either.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 19:04:25
August 20 2014 19:00 GMT
#2682
I don't have FrostJaw while Frost spec. Maybe a bug. But i don't have it.

I liked changing armor. I felt it was good to have extra crit and sometimes haste.
I have deepfrost. (that's the thing that ice the guy and then you can crit him ?)

Problem is with consolidated aoe that frost don't have "moving aoe" anymore. like the arcanebubble. (sorry i'm tired and don't remember english names )

The firebomb seems to be in firespec now.

No the flameshock was the aoe (sorry i have the game in French). It was good to have that and then aoe with arcane or frost on it. It was good to have multiple elements when you have mobs that are immune or reflect fire or frost or arcane.

Garrison are fun though. Didn't thought it would be like that but it's kind of good. It's like heroes
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
August 20 2014 19:39 GMT
#2683
A lot of the passives have been rolled into abilities, other passives, or just made base without being in the Spellbook. No idea about that one in particular.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 19:53:51
August 20 2014 19:51 GMT
#2684
So i tried a few stuff with the 90character wich is ilvel 502 on Wod

And my crappy mage 90 which is 511 ilvel.

Just to know how the new damage system work.

AQ40
With my MoP mage. I just can't kill the twins. (decast, bump, not enough DPS for the heal).
With my WoD mage. 4shots.

With my MoP mage. ICC normal 10man. I can kill the first boss easy.
With my WoD mage. I die at something like 40% health.

I'm still trying to understand how that works

Maybe that stuff don't interest anyone though. Maybe i'm too exited. I'll stop post if this don't belong here. Just tell me
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
August 20 2014 19:57 GMT
#2685
Post whatever you want. I'm interested in news on soloing.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
August 20 2014 19:57 GMT
#2686
So I haven't played for 2 years, and for years before that I had a razor naga with the 12 mouse buttons on one side... How are you supposed to use abilities/spells and move while doing so? If I move my hand to hit keys, I can't reach wasd very well. Am I supposed to click my abilities like a baddy and use the other hand to move? Cause that seems terrible. I never thought I would be asking such a basic question lol. I miss my broken naga =(
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
August 20 2014 20:00 GMT
#2687
On August 21 2014 04:57 Ayaz2810 wrote:
So I haven't played for 2 years, and for years before that I had a razor naga with the 12 mouse buttons on one side... How are you supposed to use abilities/spells and move while doing so? If I move my hand to hit keys, I can't reach wasd very well. Am I supposed to click my abilities like a baddy and use the other hand to move? Cause that seems terrible. I never thought I would be asking such a basic question lol. I miss my broken naga =(


I have 12345, shift 12345, and alt 12345 as well as ZXC and 4 mouse buttons and I normally have enough to play every class.
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
August 20 2014 20:01 GMT
#2688
On August 21 2014 05:00 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 04:57 Ayaz2810 wrote:
So I haven't played for 2 years, and for years before that I had a razor naga with the 12 mouse buttons on one side... How are you supposed to use abilities/spells and move while doing so? If I move my hand to hit keys, I can't reach wasd very well. Am I supposed to click my abilities like a baddy and use the other hand to move? Cause that seems terrible. I never thought I would be asking such a basic question lol. I miss my broken naga =(


I have 12345, shift 12345, and alt 12345 as well as ZXC and 4 mouse buttons and I normally have enough to play every class.


Oh god I forgot about the modifier keys like alt and Ctrl. Thanks!!!
Vrtra Vanquisher/Tiamat Trouncer/World Serpent Slayer
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
August 20 2014 20:03 GMT
#2689
On August 21 2014 04:57 Ayaz2810 wrote:
So I haven't played for 2 years, and for years before that I had a razor naga with the 12 mouse buttons on one side... How are you supposed to use abilities/spells and move while doing so? If I move my hand to hit keys, I can't reach wasd very well. Am I supposed to click my abilities like a baddy and use the other hand to move? Cause that seems terrible. I never thought I would be asking such a basic question lol. I miss my broken naga =(


You move in 1 direction while casting spells. Don't expect to strafe to the right if you have to hit F/G for a spell unless you move your middle finger (which was on W) to D to replace it in the mean time.

It's all about placement of hotkeys, ease of access and how far you can reach. My mouse only has 3 buttons on it. But I'm pretty much out of room for hotkeys atm and I just barely fit all my needed spells.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 20:17:03
August 20 2014 20:06 GMT
#2690
On August 21 2014 04:57 EchOne wrote:
Post whatever you want. I'm interested in news on soloing.


Well... sooloing 60 is like killing level 1 mobs. I'm in MC right now with the WoD toon and i kill bosses in 2/3 hits. Almost os garr

I noticed a lot of new features in WoD that will make me unsubs addon. Random Mount for exemple is native in WoD
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 20:14:04
August 20 2014 20:09 GMT
#2691
On August 21 2014 05:00 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 04:57 Ayaz2810 wrote:
So I haven't played for 2 years, and for years before that I had a razor naga with the 12 mouse buttons on one side... How are you supposed to use abilities/spells and move while doing so? If I move my hand to hit keys, I can't reach wasd very well. Am I supposed to click my abilities like a baddy and use the other hand to move? Cause that seems terrible. I never thought I would be asking such a basic question lol. I miss my broken naga =(


I have 12345, shift 12345, and alt 12345 as well as ZXC and 4 mouse buttons and I normally have enough to play every class.

I remember I needed 36 hotkeys (40 with WASD) for my mistweaver. Little excessive lol, glad they reduce that a little now.
By the time I had learned them well I was already quitting the game. :D
Off-season = best season
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21712 Posts
August 20 2014 20:17 GMT
#2692
On August 21 2014 05:09 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 05:00 deth2munkies wrote:
On August 21 2014 04:57 Ayaz2810 wrote:
So I haven't played for 2 years, and for years before that I had a razor naga with the 12 mouse buttons on one side... How are you supposed to use abilities/spells and move while doing so? If I move my hand to hit keys, I can't reach wasd very well. Am I supposed to click my abilities like a baddy and use the other hand to move? Cause that seems terrible. I never thought I would be asking such a basic question lol. I miss my broken naga =(


I have 12345, shift 12345, and alt 12345 as well as ZXC and 4 mouse buttons and I normally have enough to play every class.

I remember I needed 36 hotkeys (40 with WASD) for my mistweaver. Little excessive lol, glad they reduce that a little now.
By the time I had learned them well I was already quitting the game. :D

I think your definetly going overboard if you need 36. Not every single thing you could ever possibly need needs to be bound. I still click a lot of stuff that I dont need to cast suddenly or frequently.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
August 20 2014 20:19 GMT
#2693
In addition to shift/alt and zxc I also use qerfv and the function keys.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
August 20 2014 20:20 GMT
#2694
On August 21 2014 05:01 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 05:00 deth2munkies wrote:
On August 21 2014 04:57 Ayaz2810 wrote:
So I haven't played for 2 years, and for years before that I had a razor naga with the 12 mouse buttons on one side... How are you supposed to use abilities/spells and move while doing so? If I move my hand to hit keys, I can't reach wasd very well. Am I supposed to click my abilities like a baddy and use the other hand to move? Cause that seems terrible. I never thought I would be asking such a basic question lol. I miss my broken naga =(


I have 12345, shift 12345, and alt 12345 as well as ZXC and 4 mouse buttons and I normally have enough to play every class.


Oh god I forgot about the modifier keys like alt and Ctrl. Thanks!!!


Keep in mind this'll turn off your ability to cycle through extra action bars and (IIRC) smartcast stuff without a macro (what the shift and alt modifiers normally do), but I think it's worth it.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
August 20 2014 20:56 GMT
#2695
Mages died with WoTLK.

RIP best arcane mage
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 21:00:46
August 20 2014 20:59 GMT
#2696
I use f1-f5, 1-7, shift-1-shift-4, qwrtyaghzxcvb for my hotkeys, esdf for movement on my mage. I dont click anything though, everything is keybound.

True arcane mages were 40/0/21 mages with 2t5 yo
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
August 20 2014 21:30 GMT
#2697
On August 21 2014 05:56 Serejai wrote:
Mages died with WoTLK.

RIP best arcane mage


Mages died with ToEP/ZHC/PoM/AP/Pyro
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21712 Posts
August 20 2014 21:33 GMT
#2698
On August 21 2014 06:30 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2014 05:56 Serejai wrote:
Mages died with WoTLK.

RIP best arcane mage


Mages died with ToEP/ZHC/PoM/AP/Pyro

good old 3 minute mages.

You will not be missed.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-20 21:41:15
August 20 2014 21:40 GMT
#2699
Glorious spec lol. FUCK YOU YOU ARE DEAD NOW...then useless for 3 minutes

@musai: i did that in spellfire gear during s1/2, staying 10/48/3 lol
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
musai
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada552 Posts
August 20 2014 21:40 GMT
#2700
On August 21 2014 05:56 Serejai wrote:
Mages died with WoTLK.

RIP best arcane mage


oh man i loved going into AV and going 200-0 because i just sit there and turret

rip arcane
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