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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
August 09 2013 18:52 GMT
#41
On August 10 2013 03:47 Boblion wrote:
meh, S2 should have made an RTS....


That's what they did before making HoN. It didn't work out so well.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
August 09 2013 18:54 GMT
#42
On August 10 2013 03:52 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 03:47 Boblion wrote:
meh, S2 should have made an RTS....


That's what they did before making HoN. It didn't work out so well.

They went bankrupt ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
August 09 2013 19:02 GMT
#43
On August 10 2013 03:54 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 03:52 Cel.erity wrote:
On August 10 2013 03:47 Boblion wrote:
meh, S2 should have made an RTS....


That's what they did before making HoN. It didn't work out so well.

They went bankrupt ?


I don't know anything about their finances, but S2 started out making RTS games. The games were practically unplayable WC3 clones. That's one reason why I'm skeptical of their ability to design anything original.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 19:05:23
August 09 2013 19:04 GMT
#44
Savage 1&2 are WC3 clones, you heard it here first folks.

lol
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
August 09 2013 19:12 GMT
#45
On August 10 2013 04:04 Boblion wrote:
Savage 1&2 are WC3 clones, you heard it here first folks.

lol


Savage is obviously not what I was referring to, good job.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
August 09 2013 19:15 GMT
#46
On August 10 2013 04:12 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:04 Boblion wrote:
Savage 1&2 are WC3 clones, you heard it here first folks.

lol


Savage is obviously not what I was referring to, good job.


Then what were you referring to ? S2 only has the following titles :

Savage: The Battle for Newerth (2003) (Windows, Macintosh, Linux)
Savage 2: A Tortured Soul (2008) (Windows, Macintosh, Linux)
Heroes of Newerth (2010) (Windows, Macintosh, Linux)

Savage is no way near a wc3 clone , so what game are you talking about ?

Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 19:27:25
August 09 2013 19:25 GMT
#47
On August 10 2013 04:15 Tchado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:12 Cel.erity wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:04 Boblion wrote:
Savage 1&2 are WC3 clones, you heard it here first folks.

lol


Savage is obviously not what I was referring to, good job.


Then what were you referring to ? S2 only has the following titles :

Savage: The Battle for Newerth (2003) (Windows, Macintosh, Linux)
Savage 2: A Tortured Soul (2008) (Windows, Macintosh, Linux)
Heroes of Newerth (2010) (Windows, Macintosh, Linux)

Savage is no way near a wc3 clone , so what game are you talking about ?



The first titles that S2 created were terrible RTS games. That's what S2 was founded on before they got ahold of HoN and became a real company. It's not exactly surprising that these games are no longer supported, since nobody played them, is it?

They may have been created before or after the original Savage, I don't know. Either way, vaporware.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 19:33:55
August 09 2013 19:33 GMT
#48
edit: wrong thread
eurTsItniH
Profile Joined January 2012
887 Posts
August 09 2013 20:08 GMT
#49
On August 10 2013 04:25 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:15 Tchado wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:12 Cel.erity wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:04 Boblion wrote:
Savage 1&2 are WC3 clones, you heard it here first folks.

lol


Savage is obviously not what I was referring to, good job.


Then what were you referring to ? S2 only has the following titles :

Savage: The Battle for Newerth (2003) (Windows, Macintosh, Linux)
Savage 2: A Tortured Soul (2008) (Windows, Macintosh, Linux)
Heroes of Newerth (2010) (Windows, Macintosh, Linux)

Savage is no way near a wc3 clone , so what game are you talking about ?



The first titles that S2 created were terrible RTS games. That's what S2 was founded on before they got ahold of HoN and became a real company. It's not exactly surprising that these games are no longer supported, since nobody played them, is it?

They may have been created before or after the original Savage, I don't know. Either way, vaporware.


Um what? I am almost certain that Savage: The Battle for Newerth was their first game. I honestly think you are mistaking them for someone else, if not, please provide a source, because you made me Google and nothing seems to indicate that you are correct.
oscar62
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada417 Posts
August 09 2013 20:42 GMT
#50
lol, savage 1 was an incredibly unique and well designed game

i guess having a top-down perspective available makes it a warcraft 3 clone? dumb poster ITT
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 21:27:17
August 09 2013 21:03 GMT
#51
On August 10 2013 03:09 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 02:23 Disengaged wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:57 Dybdal wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:41 Disengaged wrote:
On August 10 2013 00:59 ain wrote:
Just what we needed. Another dota clone. Because farming gold isn't boring enough in just one game.


People seem to forget that AoS came first and thus Dota was born after.


People seem to forget that its not weather or not AoS was first, its about who made it big.. first.

Case and point? that fps is such a Doom clone... i mean Wolfenstein clone... i mean Catacombs 3D clone.... i mean Hovertank clone..

I think you get my point.


No, I don't get your point because there is none to be made. It is also not a matter of "Cloning". Dota was created because they were inspired to create it because of AoS. People become inspired by what they see and or play and thus create something bigger and better. Who is to say without AoS that Dota would even exist? AoS was the stepping stone for Dota.

That is all that matters.


Do you even know what the word clone means? It means the game that another most closely resembles/is trying to imitate. None of these games are trying to imitate AoS, because AoS was not a fully fleshed out game. HoN is clearly a DotA clone and not an AoS clone. LoL more closely resembles DotA than AoS, though I wouldn't call it a clone of anything. DotA was originally an AoS clone, but now, the modern generation is building upon what DotA has done since then.


Yes, I know what clone means but thank you for the unneeded explanation. Also, you clearly didn't get what I was saying.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
August 09 2013 21:09 GMT
#52
The market for dota-like games is growing. Its playerbase is huge. Why wouldn't they try? I think LoL will remain the king of this genre though. Having said all this, I still don't really play any of them. lol
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
August 09 2013 21:22 GMT
#53
The Savage games were some seriously innovative/next-level stuff. The only other game that compares in Natural Selection. S2 sucks but to completely discredit Savage as WC3 clones (which they're not) is stupid.
Loving Memory
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
August 09 2013 22:27 GMT
#54
TBH, I wish they would go back to Savage. Those games were so cool, and there's a ton of room to grow in that genre.
EMIYA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States433 Posts
August 09 2013 23:27 GMT
#55
market is oversaturated.. the more simple you try to keep it the more stale it gets. how many unique 4 ability kits can people come up with that isnt just another stun, knock up, aoe type thing? heroes purposes start to overlap and the newer ones overshadow the older--its a relationship even league is suffering from now. ill admit that the boss condition that forces a end game push is a nice idea, but may be a little over powered. And i agree with the xel naga towers over wards, but without pidgeon holing team positions like support, is it going to turn into a shitstorm brawl?
QuackPocketDuck
Profile Joined January 2011
410 Posts
August 09 2013 23:51 GMT
#56
Will these guys eventually release an decent game? I mean they keep trying looks ok I'll give it a go,
however watched those vids while I had TI3 running on my second monitor and I find it hard to beleive people would play this over Dota 2 or Lol
I bought a pack of cigarettes for $20, What have you done for your country today?
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
August 10 2013 02:29 GMT
#57
On August 10 2013 04:25 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 04:15 Tchado wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:12 Cel.erity wrote:
On August 10 2013 04:04 Boblion wrote:
Savage 1&2 are WC3 clones, you heard it here first folks.

lol


Savage is obviously not what I was referring to, good job.


Then what were you referring to ? S2 only has the following titles :

Savage: The Battle for Newerth (2003) (Windows, Macintosh, Linux)
Savage 2: A Tortured Soul (2008) (Windows, Macintosh, Linux)
Heroes of Newerth (2010) (Windows, Macintosh, Linux)

Savage is no way near a wc3 clone , so what game are you talking about ?



The first titles that S2 created were terrible RTS games. That's what S2 was founded on before they got ahold of HoN and became a real company. It's not exactly surprising that these games are no longer supported, since nobody played them, is it?

They may have been created before or after the original Savage, I don't know. Either way, vaporware.

If you can't name those games don't even try to argue. Also if you think that after developping S1&2 and HoN they don't have any competent artists and programmers you are clueless.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 10 2013 04:25 GMT
#58
It's been taking them a long time replacing and updating their old Savage 2 engine which was used in hon which was horribly ugly on the inside. Dat k2 turd.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
August 10 2013 04:50 GMT
#59
Savage was a really neat idea. Super fun to play around in. However the only thing S2 has proven to me with HoN is their ability to completely shit the bed every patch. They did nothing but break the game patch after patch after patch. Heres some new cosmetic crap! What about the network issues, what about the being DDOSed forever, what about the mega broken heroes?

Maybe someone is mistaking the Commander view in Savage for WC3? I mean I guess it sort of kind of looks similar. However only 1 player on either team was a commander, they played the game like a RTS spending the money and building structures. Everyone else on the teams were playing a FPS where they were the "units" going around and gathering or killing. It certainly was nothing like WC3 or any other game for that matter.
LiquidDota Staff
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 10 2013 05:05 GMT
#60
Hon doesn't really have mega broken heroes at high level play a few rare instances, but there are certainly heroes that take a whole lot less to play well and stomp pubs. What S2 does great with hon, hero and ability creation is so easy in their engine they really stream lined the process, unless it's a completely new ability concept you just mismash calling already done scripts add skin and model and done. Plus it just feels smooth imo compared to the rest, ionno if it's their animation or what but it feels better. I have no qualms that their new game will run well it's just they aren't a popular company it's hard to snatch people away, esp with this kind of game that really people come in packs they play what their friends play.
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