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SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
September 08 2013 23:27 GMT
#81
They say it a noob friendly game but honestly it doesnt seem THAT noob friendly. It seems slightly below LoL or around LoL but definitely more noob friendly than DOTA. From the description I was expecting something more noob friendly. Some interesting concept though not sure how I feel about money getting split.
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 10:35:09
September 09 2013 00:12 GMT
#82
IT seems like the best method for laning will be the primary farmer within the jungle area, with a laning support with a secondary farmer, and then two duelists in other lanes. The primary farmer doesn't split jungle gold, while the duelists can be giving 1/8 their gold to the primary farmer. and the laning support + the secondary receiving larger portions of the money than the duelists, but the kills being given to the secondary farrmer.

It'll create a 1/2/3/4/4 method of distributing farm, where the dual lane and the jungle will have the top 3 farm, and the two solo lanes get the least gold, but most xp.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 11 2013 23:50 GMT
#83
On September 09 2013 04:39 GGTeMpLaR wrote:

i watched it and i absolutely love the direction of the game. I would love to pick up a less competitive dota so i could share a game with my more casual gamer friends. I just hope they dont blow this over by going too P2W as well as trying to compete on the esport market.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
September 12 2013 04:48 GMT
#84
On August 10 2013 19:37 Tchado wrote:
What I find hilarious from my personal point of view , is how s2 is promoting this game as a noob friendly "non toxic" game , this whole notion of "community toxicity" is making me sick honestly , humans are humans and you can't do anything about it no matter what they do , and s2 itself has some elements in this.

+ Show Spoiler [rest of his rant] +
I think with this kind of publicity they are indirectly hurting the reputation their other game and it's community , there is no doubt that the HoN community is full of foul mouth , trash talking elitists , and you know what ? I fucking love it , it's what got me into the game in the first place , HoN is a place where your skills determine your status , you wanna shut someone up ? show some big plays , earn your respect in the team , now I will admit that noobs and beginners will have a hard time with this , but that is why custom games and team ques are for , hell that is even why chat is around for , when I was a noob I used to tell me team that I was new or that I sucked with a certain hero and ask for help , no one ever complained (I have over 3K games played in HoN) , there is no reason why other people cant do so.

I recently read a strife article where the author starts off with with something like "when I first played hon , i was called a noob , a fruit fly had more skills than me , and my mother's sexuality was discussed , that was the end of my time with hon" , then the author goes on to praise strife and the karma system , how can s2 possibility allow this ?

Last note , S2 made money off this"toxic" notion too , the taunt/smack down animations and quotations , just look at these smackdown animations , a flying trash bin or god hand that smashes your opponent , a chipper that rubs his "nuts" on your face , a Micheal Jackson like zombie that dances on your grave....etc , what about some hero taunt quote ? bubbles : "I knew your mother back in the day" and others , and the announcer smackdown calls ? badass announcer " KISS MY ASS !" , pimp announcer : "BACK HANDED !" , british gentleman "KNOW YOUR PLACE PEASANT !"......alot of s2 content follows this line of thought and production.


S2 directly made tons of money off what they are now looking down upon , and it makes me sick.


The thing that's hilarious to me is that your entire attitude only justifies the measures S2 are taking. My guess is that they just sold you guys what they knew you wanted since they obviously weren't about to change you or the game itself easily. A new game is a good opportunity to find a new niche and the casual niche much bigger than the "we're-foul-mouthed-elitists" niche. Making HoN 2.0 was never a good option since LoL and DotA ate that end of the market.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Janaan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States381 Posts
September 12 2013 06:44 GMT
#85
On August 12 2013 20:28 Tchado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 20:20 BlueBird. wrote:
So basically the support role is going to have to leave the lane and roam to activate the observation posts, and be sure to be outside the aoe of me lasthitting creeps, but be within range to save my ass if something goes wrong, sounds like an improvement... I guess?



I think the support role in strife wont exist , unless they go back to the designing table.


I think you're right with this. I also think that it's by design. It seems to me that they are creating an environment where more casual players can thrive better. I'm using my own experience as a fairly low level DotA 2 player and going from there as to what this kind of gold sharing will allow. On ladder, at least at my level, which is most certainly a very casual level of DotA, people don't want to play support anyway. It's more fun to be getting gold, get last hits, and get your items. This way, with the gold sharing, even if you aren't directly getting the last hits, you still can get big items. Getting the last hits yourself is still beneficial, since you still get a majority of the gold that way, but everyone can get gold and get items, which allows for more fun, right? It's only at the higher levels (read less casual in this case), when things like stacking, pulling, dual roaming etc. come into play that playing a support becomes more than just a chore so that someone else can have more fun. By eliminating the traditional support role, they will make the game more fun for the casual player. Sure it's not good for competitive play, but that's not what they're going for so that's ok.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1601 Posts
September 16 2013 14:17 GMT
#86
I'm just curious. Why couldn't they implement something like this as part of HON? A game that looked like HON, no cheesy LoL characters a more simply map and the same concept? Why create another MOBA that aims to steal LoL players when LoL players play fucking LoL. Honestly what do they think they're going to get out of this? If you have LoL or even if you don't why play this? I'm not leaving a slightly harder LoL game to play this because I already have time/money invested in LoL. OR I'm not going to try strife because every friend I have plays LoL/Dota2/Hon. Instead of making a casual mode a read casual mode to HON and improving their serious HON heroes, they decided to make a mock LoL. Then again this is the company that made the best moba and is 3rd (maybe) in popularity.
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4338 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-17 19:54:31
September 16 2013 15:38 GMT
#87
I got a key from PAX. I'll give insight when I'm able. Having played dota, tides of blood, smite and LoL in alpha to beta to release, I should be able to give informative insight.

Edit: Wow. After reading more and more about this game and how they plan to reward cooperative players, I am actually getting excited about this game. Great review here by polygon - http://www.polygon.com/2013/8/8/4592582/strife-s2-games-moba

Can't wait for the closed beta so I can give this a try with my wife whom generally dislikes MOBAs but is interested in this.

Edit 2: Keep a close eye on my stream, I'll be streaming Strife once Beta goes live which I've heard is soon(tm).
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4338 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 19:36:52
September 20 2013 19:31 GMT
#88
Noticing the lack of information on the Strife website, I've created a website that I will continuously update with everything I learn about this game. It is most definitely a work in progress.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
September 23 2013 07:37 GMT
#89
Hey everybody , I apologize for not updating this thread for a while , as some of you know I work for the UN and I was doing some work for the syrian emergency for a while , and now I am doing some work in Kenya and I'll be back in my home country in a few days , I couldnt open any kind of stream related websites without having major lags and crashes, but I did some updates now.

Anyone who wants to add something to the OP , feel free to send me PM
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
October 30 2013 22:32 GMT
#90
Anyone got a spare beta key for this game?
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
October 30 2013 23:29 GMT
#91
On September 21 2013 04:31 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Noticing the lack of information on the Strife website, I've created a website that I will continuously update with everything I learn about this game. It is most definitely a work in progress.

Thanks for this, you're doing an amazing job so far ^_^
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4338 Posts
October 31 2013 17:09 GMT
#92
Thanks. I'm not very good at CSS but I'm slowly figuring out how to structure the site how I want it. Lots of trial and error haha.

Not to mention all the back end server stuff holy crap.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4338 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-17 19:21:30
November 16 2013 21:59 GMT
#93
Sorry for the late notice but Strifebase and Strifeboss just invited me onto a podcast to talk about Strife and Strifeapedia.

Starts tomorrow at 11:30am PST (UTC -8) if anyone wants to listen to a bunch of guys whom haven't played the game yet and will speculate wildly about everything.

http://www.twitch.tv/strifebase
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11965 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 06:50:51
December 01 2013 06:06 GMT
#94
I played this game at DHW this past weekend.

Considering it was on the floor I only got in two and a half games with 2 being against bots. First comment about bots is that unfair bots in strife are roughly equal to normal bots in Dota 2. There isn't a higher difficulty, so anybody used to the genre will win against the bots their first or second game. Guess they work for learning the basics and trying skills out.

The game against people one on our side left near the start and I didn't even realize this until a while later. Just looked at the heroes at the top and saw we had only 4. (Meaning we couldn't use it, not sure if we got bonus gold or something to compensate.)

I liked free courier and copying most of DotA items (moving a few into boot upgrades instead). DotA's strong suit has always been in the items and the map. Having extra slots by moving regen items and boots out of the 6 slots makes for stronger item sets for carries.
Regening towers in base was nice as well, especially since there was no barracks. Not sure taking down the last base towers did anything except weaken the last building and stopping them from killing your creep waves.
I also liked their version of out of game upgrade picks in a pet you bring with you.

I don't like more stuff than I did like though, no denying, No selecting other stuff, so no checking exact creep hp when jungling to judge if you win or lose, no tower hp check etc. Free notice when killing the harder NPCs. Only 15 levels. Being able to buy upgrade books instead of being maxed once slots are filled, this with not being able to check enemy HP makes it very hard to judge kill potential.
I didn't like that you can effect the current game by more than hero pick (pets).
I also don't like that you can't kill the pet or courier. They are on the map in the middle of a fight but are immortal.
I most of all did not like that they seem to be going the LoL route of unlocking stuff you need to compete by playing. I want to be able to jump in and win if I am better, not grind 200 games first. (I am not sure about this, but was 3-4 different collectibles used to unlock pet and pet skills.)

All in all it is very good for a pre beta, I would play it over LoL but not over Dota 2.

Edit, Several people that walked by while I was playing confused it with LoL since the graphics are so similar.
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4338 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-11 02:30:32
December 11 2013 02:28 GMT
#95
I'm proud to announce the launch of www.strifeapedia.com/crafting which is a JavaScript App that allows you to play around with the Core Items and their components. This way you don't have to spend in game resources to find out what does what. It is still a HUGE work in progress but please enjoy!
So wait? I'm bad? =(
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 11 2013 03:07 GMT
#96
the dark horse of mobas inc
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4338 Posts
December 18 2013 06:15 GMT
#97
Strife is now in closed Beta.

Unfortunately S2 really JUST had to wait until the end of fall to release it. I'm going back to College and I won't have time to play...

I'd be willing to sell two keys for $10 each to anyone interested. (I had to buy mine from someone that went to PAX. Just trying to regain my losses.) PM me.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
2xNoodle
Profile Joined May 2012
United States201 Posts
December 18 2013 07:44 GMT
#98
Does anybody know if the map(s) in this game is "properly" symmetrical? To clarify what I mean, I don't consider Dota 2's map symmetrical since the Radiant and Dire sides are physically constructed differently and I don't consider LoL's as symmetrical in that one side of river has a dragon and the other Baron.
Former Senior Editor for ROOT Gaming | https://twitter.com/2xNoodle
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
December 18 2013 15:31 GMT
#99
Does someone have a spare key for this? Tried it at dreamhack and loved the gameplay!

Vote for Beta Keys to all HoN Closed Beta accounts! :D
MoriyaGXP
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)240 Posts
December 21 2013 00:39 GMT
#100
Anyone have spare beta key, please let me know
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