Strife, a new MOBA from S2 Games - Page 5
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SheaR619
United States2399 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
It'll create a 1/2/3/4/4 method of distributing farm, where the dual lane and the jungle will have the top 3 farm, and the two solo lanes get the least gold, but most xp. | ||
NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On September 09 2013 04:39 GGTeMpLaR wrote: i watched it and i absolutely love the direction of the game. I would love to pick up a less competitive dota so i could share a game with my more casual gamer friends. I just hope they dont blow this over by going too P2W as well as trying to compete on the esport market. | ||
phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On August 10 2013 19:37 Tchado wrote: What I find hilarious from my personal point of view , is how s2 is promoting this game as a noob friendly "non toxic" game , this whole notion of "community toxicity" is making me sick honestly , humans are humans and you can't do anything about it no matter what they do , and s2 itself has some elements in this. + Show Spoiler [rest of his rant] + I think with this kind of publicity they are indirectly hurting the reputation their other game and it's community , there is no doubt that the HoN community is full of foul mouth , trash talking elitists , and you know what ? I fucking love it , it's what got me into the game in the first place , HoN is a place where your skills determine your status , you wanna shut someone up ? show some big plays , earn your respect in the team , now I will admit that noobs and beginners will have a hard time with this , but that is why custom games and team ques are for , hell that is even why chat is around for , when I was a noob I used to tell me team that I was new or that I sucked with a certain hero and ask for help , no one ever complained (I have over 3K games played in HoN) , there is no reason why other people cant do so. I recently read a strife article where the author starts off with with something like "when I first played hon , i was called a noob , a fruit fly had more skills than me , and my mother's sexuality was discussed , that was the end of my time with hon" , then the author goes on to praise strife and the karma system , how can s2 possibility allow this ? Last note , S2 made money off this"toxic" notion too , the taunt/smack down animations and quotations , just look at these smackdown animations , a flying trash bin or god hand that smashes your opponent , a chipper that rubs his "nuts" on your face , a Micheal Jackson like zombie that dances on your grave....etc , what about some hero taunt quote ? bubbles : "I knew your mother back in the day" and others , and the announcer smackdown calls ? badass announcer " KISS MY ASS !" , pimp announcer : "BACK HANDED !" , british gentleman "KNOW YOUR PLACE PEASANT !"......alot of s2 content follows this line of thought and production. S2 directly made tons of money off what they are now looking down upon , and it makes me sick. The thing that's hilarious to me is that your entire attitude only justifies the measures S2 are taking. My guess is that they just sold you guys what they knew you wanted since they obviously weren't about to change you or the game itself easily. A new game is a good opportunity to find a new niche and the casual niche much bigger than the "we're-foul-mouthed-elitists" niche. Making HoN 2.0 was never a good option since LoL and DotA ate that end of the market. | ||
Janaan
United States381 Posts
On August 12 2013 20:28 Tchado wrote: I think the support role in strife wont exist , unless they go back to the designing table. I think you're right with this. I also think that it's by design. It seems to me that they are creating an environment where more casual players can thrive better. I'm using my own experience as a fairly low level DotA 2 player and going from there as to what this kind of gold sharing will allow. On ladder, at least at my level, which is most certainly a very casual level of DotA, people don't want to play support anyway. It's more fun to be getting gold, get last hits, and get your items. This way, with the gold sharing, even if you aren't directly getting the last hits, you still can get big items. Getting the last hits yourself is still beneficial, since you still get a majority of the gold that way, but everyone can get gold and get items, which allows for more fun, right? It's only at the higher levels (read less casual in this case), when things like stacking, pulling, dual roaming etc. come into play that playing a support becomes more than just a chore so that someone else can have more fun. By eliminating the traditional support role, they will make the game more fun for the casual player. Sure it's not good for competitive play, but that's not what they're going for so that's ok. | ||
NoobSkills
United States1592 Posts
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4330 Posts
Edit: Wow. After reading more and more about this game and how they plan to reward cooperative players, I am actually getting excited about this game. Great review here by polygon - http://www.polygon.com/2013/8/8/4592582/strife-s2-games-moba Can't wait for the closed beta so I can give this a try with my wife whom generally dislikes MOBAs but is interested in this. Edit 2: Keep a close eye on my stream, I'll be streaming Strife once Beta goes live which I've heard is soon(tm). | ||
Psyonic_Reaver
United States4330 Posts
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
Anyone who wants to add something to the OP , feel free to send me PM | ||
FreakyDroid
Macedonia2616 Posts
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LazyFailKid
Canada750 Posts
On September 21 2013 04:31 Psyonic_Reaver wrote: Noticing the lack of information on the Strife website, I've created a website that I will continuously update with everything I learn about this game. It is most definitely a work in progress. Thanks for this, you're doing an amazing job so far ^_^ | ||
Psyonic_Reaver
United States4330 Posts
Not to mention all the back end server stuff holy crap. | ||
Psyonic_Reaver
United States4330 Posts
Starts tomorrow at 11:30am PST (UTC -8) if anyone wants to listen to a bunch of guys whom haven't played the game yet and will speculate wildly about everything. http://www.twitch.tv/strifebase | ||
Yurie
11649 Posts
Considering it was on the floor I only got in two and a half games with 2 being against bots. First comment about bots is that unfair bots in strife are roughly equal to normal bots in Dota 2. There isn't a higher difficulty, so anybody used to the genre will win against the bots their first or second game. Guess they work for learning the basics and trying skills out. The game against people one on our side left near the start and I didn't even realize this until a while later. Just looked at the heroes at the top and saw we had only 4. (Meaning we couldn't use it, not sure if we got bonus gold or something to compensate.) I liked free courier and copying most of DotA items (moving a few into boot upgrades instead). DotA's strong suit has always been in the items and the map. Having extra slots by moving regen items and boots out of the 6 slots makes for stronger item sets for carries. Regening towers in base was nice as well, especially since there was no barracks. Not sure taking down the last base towers did anything except weaken the last building and stopping them from killing your creep waves. I also liked their version of out of game upgrade picks in a pet you bring with you. I don't like more stuff than I did like though, no denying, No selecting other stuff, so no checking exact creep hp when jungling to judge if you win or lose, no tower hp check etc. Free notice when killing the harder NPCs. Only 15 levels. Being able to buy upgrade books instead of being maxed once slots are filled, this with not being able to check enemy HP makes it very hard to judge kill potential. I didn't like that you can effect the current game by more than hero pick (pets). I also don't like that you can't kill the pet or courier. They are on the map in the middle of a fight but are immortal. I most of all did not like that they seem to be going the LoL route of unlocking stuff you need to compete by playing. I want to be able to jump in and win if I am better, not grind 200 games first. (I am not sure about this, but was 3-4 different collectibles used to unlock pet and pet skills.) All in all it is very good for a pre beta, I would play it over LoL but not over Dota 2. Edit, Several people that walked by while I was playing confused it with LoL since the graphics are so similar. | ||
Psyonic_Reaver
United States4330 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4330 Posts
Unfortunately S2 really JUST had to wait until the end of fall to release it. I'm going back to College and I won't have time to play... I'd be willing to sell two keys for $10 each to anyone interested. (I had to buy mine from someone that went to PAX. Just trying to regain my losses.) PM me. | ||
2xNoodle
United States201 Posts
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Vallelol
Germany1046 Posts
Vote for Beta Keys to all HoN Closed Beta accounts! :D | ||
MoriyaGXP
Korea (South)240 Posts
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