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On June 25 2013 22:06 karazax wrote:
Growth/Order draw is also gaining popularity, though I don't think it will work any more if the changes to Noaidi go live.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=02_2qpNGoqM

On June 26 2013 04:51 Quotidian wrote:
man.. that was a boring game. Are most games like this now? constant board wipes and just sacking for draws/cards/resources all the time? I've completely stopped playing this game, so I don't know... From the look of things, I certainly feel like my early assumption that the board really doesn't matter in terms of strategy is still holding true (in which case, why have a board at all?)

On June 26 2013 15:27 NB wrote:
personally i dont find noaidi thats broken.... Im already starting to use metempsychosis in my GO draw deck to resummon everything: hatse, sister of the fox, even to memorials =))... The most broken part about go draw the way i see it is quake. It wipes the board way too fast that you not only benefit from enemy unit being killed but also from your heritage being popped. I think instead of damaging your own unit with quake, they should just make it to increase cd of units on your side by an absurd flat amount(3? 5?) or skipping your next turn....

On June 25 2013 21:42 tsangan wrote:

I am going to have disagree with that, Growth is so overpower in all stages of the game at the moment, their early game is non comparable with the other 2 colours. Their late game they have 2 super OP cards that allow them to regain control and advantage, those cards being Quake and Fertile Soil.

If we were to compare those cards to other 2 colours for Energy we have End of Reason/Thunder Surge and Clock Library, while Thunder Surge is quite good you can definitely play around it, next we have End of Reason which is such a godawful card in the current state due to Energy needing a board to win so basically you're sacing a board full of expensive units to basically restart the game. This would NOT be too bad if there was a way for Energy to replenish their hand which besides Clock Library they don't, Clock Library requires 4 turns to turn into a +2 and protecting that for 4 turns is not a easy task. You can of course speed up the process with Overdrive but in the end you would only be netting a +1 for 6 resources and STILL 2 turns which makes it all not worth it.

For Order they do not have a reset card such as Quake/End of Reason/Thunder Surge so once they lose the board control it is hard for them to regain it, they do have a pretty good draw engine in Heritage which nets you for a +1 but this is not in your control sadly it is in your opponents as you do not have any spells that can help you trigger it ie. Frost Gale/Quake

Now compare both of those colours to Growth, their early game is really strong with Sister of the Wolf, Vaettr of the Wild, and Kinfolk Brave, if they do run out of steam by mid game they can always reset the game more or less with Quake. In the late game you have access to Sister of the Wolf + Fertile Soil which basically is 6 cost for a net gain of +2 advantage on the same turn. Growth should always play for the late game because the other 2 colours cannot compete with them with their advantages with cards which will lead to other good spells such as Rallying + Crimson Bull combos and so on


Growth/Order is so strong because most of what's good about Order are their low cost spells such as Speed, Heritage, Kabonk, Focus, Pother, Decimation and so on. In the late game you can easily go Sister of the Wolf + Heritage + Heritage + Fertile Soil which is 6 resource for both colours for a net gain of +4

On June 27 2013 14:10 heartlxp wrote:
anyone know if the multiplayer quick matches are based on MMR too? or just ranked

On June 27 2013 21:15 NB wrote:
nah, quick match isnt based on mmr at all. It is completely random. You could install mods to check your enemy mmr before the match. http://www.scrollsguide.com/summoner

On June 28 2013 01:28 BliptiX wrote:
Yeah, when the game released I would exclusively play quick match and the queue went from instant to taking several minutes. I also noticed my opponents were all really good at that point too.

On June 28 2013 02:16 heartlxp wrote:


Okay I think this makes the most sense. Otherwise people would be farming the crap outta newbs for gold (I've been shamelessly planning on this :D )

It was most noticeable when I played my 3rd ranked game ever and the guy was dropping Obelisks in the back column.

I realized then that in the past 50 games of quick match, not a single opp made "glaring" mistakes like that.