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nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
June 19 2013 20:03 GMT
#3321
On June 20 2013 05:00 DODswe4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 04:53 Grettin wrote:
Microsoft to Pull Complete Reversal on Xbox One DRM Policies

Sources indicate Microsoft is going to move away from what's caused the company so much headache.
The tug-of-war between Microsoft and Sony just got more interesting. Multiple sources inform me Microsoft will announce what amounts to a complete reversal on its DRM policies for Xbox One today.

What does this mean?

No more always online requirement
The console no longer has to check in every 24 hours
All game discs will work on Xbox One as they do on Xbox 360
An Internet connection is only required when initially setting up the console
All downloaded games will function the same when online or offline
No additional restrictions on trading games or loaning discs
Region locks have been dropped


http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/microsoft-to-pull-complete-reversal-on-xbox-one-dr/1100-4673/

-------------------------------------------------------

Thoughts? (take this with grain of salt)


I really cant believe that Microsoft would do such a turn around. Remove some of the features sure, but all of them? I really don't think so. I mean the damage is already kinda done with the horrendous pr job they did. I would however be very happy if it is true, then I could get one to play the exclusive games that I want to play

What features? The machine can still do the same things, just void of those limitations. It will probably still have the regular internet checks and such, it just won't lock your console if it misses one and so on.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
June 19 2013 20:05 GMT
#3322
On June 20 2013 05:03 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 05:00 DODswe4 wrote:
On June 20 2013 04:53 Grettin wrote:
Microsoft to Pull Complete Reversal on Xbox One DRM Policies

Sources indicate Microsoft is going to move away from what's caused the company so much headache.
The tug-of-war between Microsoft and Sony just got more interesting. Multiple sources inform me Microsoft will announce what amounts to a complete reversal on its DRM policies for Xbox One today.

What does this mean?

No more always online requirement
The console no longer has to check in every 24 hours
All game discs will work on Xbox One as they do on Xbox 360
An Internet connection is only required when initially setting up the console
All downloaded games will function the same when online or offline
No additional restrictions on trading games or loaning discs
Region locks have been dropped


http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/microsoft-to-pull-complete-reversal-on-xbox-one-dr/1100-4673/

-------------------------------------------------------

Thoughts? (take this with grain of salt)


I really cant believe that Microsoft would do such a turn around. Remove some of the features sure, but all of them? I really don't think so. I mean the damage is already kinda done with the horrendous pr job they did. I would however be very happy if it is true, then I could get one to play the exclusive games that I want to play

What features? The machine can still do the same things, just void of those limitations. It will probably still have the regular internet checks and such, it just won't lock your console if it misses one and so on.


I call them features but I mean their DRM and way to spy on people, why remove everything when everyone already have started to hate you
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
June 19 2013 20:08 GMT
#3323
It's an attempt to save face. Everyone will remember the initial implications and what MS vision was but for those who don't pay attention that kind of shit they will now buy this. Producers of games might actually go back to trying to negotiate with MS to make games where as before they were openly saying they'd much rather produce for Sony.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 20:12:37
June 19 2013 20:09 GMT
#3324
that article sounds like a big bag of bullshit.

need source or comment from ms.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 19 2013 20:14 GMT
#3325
On June 20 2013 05:09 jinorazi wrote:
that article sounds like a big bag of bullshit.

need source or comment from ms.


It's pretty rare for Giantbomb to post "'big bag of bullshit" tho.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
June 19 2013 20:18 GMT
#3326
On June 20 2013 05:14 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 05:09 jinorazi wrote:
that article sounds like a big bag of bullshit.

need source or comment from ms.


It's pretty rare for Giantbomb to post "'big bag of bullshit" tho.


Thats what i heard also. The guy who made the article is apparently pretty respected guy, as well as giantbomb as a whole.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 19 2013 20:21 GMT
#3327
Also Angry Joe pretty much called out MS for basically lying about how publishers and DRM as MS designed the cosnole from software and hardware.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
June 19 2013 20:23 GMT
#3328
Good, just take away the kinect and drop the price now
EGM guides me
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 20:26:04
June 19 2013 20:24 GMT
#3329
According to TGS podcast (TotalBiscuit), Microsoft just updated their blog and this is pretty much confirmed. Now trying to find and access the blog link. If you have it, please post!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
June 19 2013 20:26 GMT
#3330
On June 20 2013 05:24 Grettin wrote:
According to TGS podcast (TotalBiscuit), Microsoft just updated their blog and this is pretty much confirmed. Now trying to find and access the blog link. If you have it, please post!


if true, gamers rejoice :D
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 19 2013 20:29 GMT
#3331
On June 20 2013 05:24 Grettin wrote:
According to TGS podcast (TotalBiscuit), Microsoft just updated their blog and this is pretty much confirmed. Now trying to find and access the blog link. If you have it, please post!


http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa

this ?
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 20:52:28
June 19 2013 20:30 GMT
#3332
On June 20 2013 05:29 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 05:24 Grettin wrote:
According to TGS podcast (TotalBiscuit), Microsoft just updated their blog and this is pretty much confirmed. Now trying to find and access the blog link. If you have it, please post!


http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa

this ?



http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update

+ Show Spoiler +
Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience.

For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future.

Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One.

You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.

So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:

An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.

Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.

In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console -- there will be no regional restrictions.

These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.

We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity. While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds.

Thank you again for your candid feedback. Our team remains committed to listening, taking feedback and delivering a great product for you later this year.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Lemstar
Profile Joined October 2010
United States387 Posts
June 19 2013 20:32 GMT
#3333
You can get rid of the rest of the FAQ, that hasn't been updated yet.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
June 19 2013 20:36 GMT
#3334
No, it does not have to be always connected, but Xbox One does require a connection to the Internet.


That doublespeak.
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
June 19 2013 20:42 GMT
#3335
Well this is an interesting turn of events...
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 20:51:51
June 19 2013 20:50 GMT
#3336
Jesus the xbox site is getting raped. Copy paste from http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update


Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One
By Don Mattrick, President, Interactive Entertainment Business posted June 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM

Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience.

For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future.

Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One.

You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.

So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:

* An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.

* Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.

In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console -- there will be no regional restrictions.

These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.

We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity. While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds.

Thank you again for your candid feedback. Our team remains committed to listening, taking feedback and delivering a great product for you later this year.
LiquidDota Staff
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 20:56:48
June 19 2013 20:56 GMT
#3337
Interesting.. as a PC gamer (basically all STEAM) I never really understood the outrage over game discs, reselling etc., and as someone privileged to live an area with stable internet those were never my major issues with Xbone. I think if I do decide to jump back into console PS4 is still where I'll land but it's quite fascinating xbone crumbled on their own 'digital revolution' dream. I was hoping they would see it through to see if their claims ended up coming true and it really would help the community overall.

ah well.
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Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
June 19 2013 21:02 GMT
#3338
On June 20 2013 05:56 crms wrote:
Interesting.. as a PC gamer (basically all STEAM) I never really understood the outrage over game discs, reselling etc., and as someone privileged to live an area with stable internet those were never my major issues with Xbone. I think if I do decide to jump back into console PS4 is still where I'll land but it's quite fascinating xbone crumbled on their own 'digital revolution' dream. I was hoping they would see it through to see if their claims ended up coming true and it really would help the community overall.

ah well.


xbox/ps4 don't have terrabyte sized HDD's like computers do. So when y ou have a game like uncharted 3 that's 50 gigs you'd rather have it on a disc. Not to mention the length of time it'd take to download whether it's because of your own internet or their servers.
Fix637
Profile Joined February 2011
United States256 Posts
June 19 2013 21:04 GMT
#3339
That didn't take long.

Microsoft definitely made the right decision here. Unfortunately I feel like the damage has been done - not only by their now defunct DRM policies, but by the fact that the system will be $100 more expensive than the PS4 because you HAVE to have the Kinect. Pre-orders on the PS4 have already far outstripped those of the Xbox One, which means that the PS4 already has a big head start.

The next step is likely going to be a system without Kinect that will be the same price as the PS4. Once we get to that place (if we do) then we'll see if Microsoft can make a comeback.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
June 19 2013 21:04 GMT
#3340
go consumers!
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