The XBox Thread - Page 169

On June 20 2013 07:10 Blisse wrote:
Damn, I'm sad that they went back on the stuff. Like, I get why they felt compelled to do so since you're supposed to listen to community feedback, but I don't think the consumers were right in this case, and that Microsoft actually had a good vision that just received too much backlash to follow through on. We'll see next generation how this progresses (and whatever else Microsoft has in plan).

On June 20 2013 07:14 TheRabidDeer wrote:

I don't understand how you're still defending it. What features are lost because of this?

On June 20 2013 07:14 TheRabidDeer wrote:

I don't understand how you're still defending it. What features are lost because of this?

On June 20 2013 07:17 HunterX11 wrote:


The main thing is being able to log in to someone else's Xbone with your account and DL your games to play without having to bring the disc. That's not really a huge loss though since now you can, you know, just bring the disc.

"This is a big change, consumers don't always love change, and there's a lot of education we have to provide to make sure that people understand."

And it's true, consumers around the world (and around the Internet) loudly expressed how much they dislike the changes Microsoft announced to its game licensing terms (and online requirements) for the Xbox One... The reaction wasn't a surprise to Mehdi, though. In fact, he said a lot of the way people have responded to Microsoft's moves was "kind of as we expected."

While the Internet is decidedly up in arms about the way the Xbox One handles game ownership and online check-ins, Mehdi said it was "hard to say" what the larger reaction from the less attentive mainstream consumers would be.

"I think it's fair to say there's a segment of consumers at this show in particular who really pay attention, who are very passionate about all aspects of gaming, and that we listen to closely. In a broader set of community, people don't pay attention to a lot of the details. We've seen it in the research, we've seen it in a lot of the data points."

One data point in particular Mehdi pointed to was the success of the initial pre-orders for the Xbox One, which started as soon as Microsoft's press conference concluded Monday.

"Amazon basically says they are on path to sell out ... . Amazon is saying it's one of their best-selling consumer products. We're seeing the same thing from other retailers."

On June 20 2013 07:17 HunterX11 wrote:


The main thing is being able to log in to someone else's Xbone with your account and DL your games to play without having to bring the disc. That's not really a huge loss though since now you can, you know, just bring the disc.

On June 20 2013 07:14 TheRabidDeer wrote:

I don't understand how you're still defending it. What features are lost because of this?

On June 20 2013 07:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Now everyone is calling it the Xbox 180 there is no way they can't be mocked.

On June 20 2013 07:23 Myles wrote:

I think people have to admit it'd be nice to be able to share games with your friend across the country, but I agree the drawbacks more than made up for that.

On June 20 2013 07:24 Hrrrrm wrote:


What do you expect? Last week they were practically forcing this shit on everyone and calling people who questioned it not wanting to be "part of the future". Now they do a complete 180 because they realize nobody wanted all the freaking restrictions. They deserve to be mocked and should be a perfect example going forward not to force things on your customers that you aren't 100% will be positively received. Especially when you don't give them options.

On June 20 2013 07:24 Blisse wrote:


Making people start to come to terms with the idea that you're soon always going to be online, even though you don't like it. Basically that.

Doing this changes nothing about the console really for me so I don't see a "victory" in this if that makes sense. I guess it's a "consumer wins" thing where taking away these features don't really negatively affect the console and allows more people the ability to use the console (+ diminishing the backlash), but it means that future endeavours for companies who want to push for always-online things (even though lots already exist) are going to take a look at Microsoft's turnaround here and tell themselves they can't do it because look at how bad the backlash is going to be.

But honestly I don't think for a lot of society (EU, other places?), our infrastructure is ready for this however much I would prefer it. But as a resident in a major city in North America, the infrastructure is available to the point where I don't care whether it does the activation check. I'm still definitely positive that the future of our technology is going to be "always online", so I don't see as much problem from the 24 hour activation check as others do either. And we also didn't get to see Microsoft's plan for the used games/DRM/Steam/iTunes-like system to unfold so we can't really comment on whether it was a loss or a gain here, but since I have about 0 used games I see it as a loss since we could've had potentially lower prices.