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On March 02 2006 15:47 oneofthem wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2006 13:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
Exactly what the fuck am I clueless about? raiding > resources. I have a new teuton account on server 3, and i'm raiding the noob villages around me for 1k each day. Sweet
Yah, it only works for Teutons. Romans and Gauls don't gain as much by rushing to units. Not to mention that Legs are expensive to make and you need a lot of phalanx to make raids successful. So again, how does that make me clueless? I play as Roman so that take into perspective when people read my advice.
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You will if not everyone around you is still in protection. I'm afraid Neo is a 'lil bit clueless on that point.
And attacking enemies to do "damage" is quite pointless at the stage of the game that you are at.
The only measure for successful raids is how much profit you make. Gains-losses basically. Hurting others often is pointless since you gaing nothing with such actions. Active ppl tend to be less profitable, so search for inactives (there should be tools out there for that purpose).
Not to mention this is what he said. No where have I said "attack solely for the purpose of killing units." Of course at this point of the game, it's all about how much resources you can raid off your neighbors. As Romans, it's definitely not as profitable to mass too many legs. They cost a lot more than clubbers and don't have the pillage bonus. With that fact in mind, then why not invest more into fields and try to get your tech up, get Equ Imps and increase your raiding radius to find and reach more inactive villages?
Tell me what's wrong with my train of thought.
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dude u dont have cheap high ROI units ur clueless mmkay? is that all right with you?
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Can someone invite me to tl-alliance 3? village is zdd2 (-177,64)
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was zdd1 you zdd?
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On March 02 2006 15:55 oneofthem wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2006 13:19 IntoTheWow wrote:
ok. but this guy already attacked me before like 2 days ago, even if i was bigger ; [
So thats my main concern.. you mean this D34DLY (-201|11) guy?
Yeah. So i mass built Clubswingers and finished all his army. Like he did with mine 
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Fuck i just lost 11 clubs to some phalanx when raiding someone i thought was inactive. Heh, i guess it doesnt matter that much because i built like 25 more clubs today. And finally teched to scouts -_-
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do u guys use marketplace at all? i have so much iron that i don't need (i need wood) would it be worth it to make a marketplace and trade with some roman - -
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Yeah i used it a couple of times, sucks that almost everyone in my zone is Teuton, no one wants iron ; [
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Yea, you should get a marketplace soon after you get a rax. If you raid a lot, you'll probably want to upgrade your marketplace a lot. Mine is currently lvl 8, and I constantly use all my merchants.
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On March 02 2006 16:50 requiem wrote:
do u guys use marketplace at all? i have so much iron that i don't need (i need wood) would it be worth it to make a marketplace and trade with some roman - -
I got it, and i just ship off 500 iron for 500 wood once a day.
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cool i'll try to get it then, thx
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goddamn everyone in my area wants wood and is offering iron. doesn't help me =p
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Same. everyone is teuton ;o
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On March 02 2006 16:02 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +You will if not everyone around you is still in protection. I'm afraid Neo is a 'lil bit clueless on that point.
And attacking enemies to do "damage" is quite pointless at the stage of the game that you are at.
The only measure for successful raids is how much profit you make. Gains-losses basically. Hurting others often is pointless since you gaing nothing with such actions. Active ppl tend to be less profitable, so search for inactives (there should be tools out there for that purpose). Not to mention this is what he said. No where have I said "attack solely for the purpose of killing units." Of course at this point of the game, it's all about how much resources you can raid off your neighbors. As Romans, it's definitely not as profitable to mass too many legs. They cost a lot more than clubbers and don't have the pillage bonus. With that fact in mind, then why not invest more into fields and try to get your tech up, get Equ Imps and increase your raiding radius to find and reach more inactive villages? Tell me what's wrong with my train of thought.
The fact that fields are more effective for romans and gauls is wrong. They merely have a slight (romans) or rather large (gauls) disadvantage in farming early. Even if you save up for those 13 Phalanx (with lvl 2-3 fields say) you will still be way more effective than with fields.
Also you do not upgrade any fields but crops really. Any money spent on fields is money you don't spend on the more effective raiding.
Units: Romans E.Imps only
Teutons: Swingerclub only
Gauls: TT only.
You don't need defenses if you're active. (Even though Teutons defenders are still great raiders  )
2nd village: Only if you want to have it comfortable with the crap uh crop. You don't need a 2nd or 3rd village really. Put this money in your army and just conquer the main village of some poor sod that did not build palace but residence. Chieftains are very expensive but the profit you make is mad.
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Wait wait, so you're saying you should have your Palace in your first village? Oh shit!
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On March 02 2006 19:29 Monsen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2006 16:02 NeoIllusions wrote:You will if not everyone around you is still in protection. I'm afraid Neo is a 'lil bit clueless on that point.
And attacking enemies to do "damage" is quite pointless at the stage of the game that you are at.
The only measure for successful raids is how much profit you make. Gains-losses basically. Hurting others often is pointless since you gaing nothing with such actions. Active ppl tend to be less profitable, so search for inactives (there should be tools out there for that purpose). Not to mention this is what he said. No where have I said "attack solely for the purpose of killing units." Of course at this point of the game, it's all about how much resources you can raid off your neighbors. As Romans, it's definitely not as profitable to mass too many legs. They cost a lot more than clubbers and don't have the pillage bonus. With that fact in mind, then why not invest more into fields and try to get your tech up, get Equ Imps and increase your raiding radius to find and reach more inactive villages? Tell me what's wrong with my train of thought. The fact that fields are more effective for romans and gauls is wrong. They merely have a slight (romans) or rather large (gauls) disadvantage in farming early. Even if you save up for those 13 Phalanx (with lvl 2-3 fields say) you will still be way more effective than with fields. Also you do not upgrade any fields but crops really. Any money spent on fields is money you don't spend on the more effective raiding. Units: Romans E.Imps only Teutons: Swingerclub only Gauls: TT only. You don't need defenses if you're active. (Even though Teutons defenders are still great raiders ) 2nd village: Only if you want to have it comfortable with the crap uh crop. You don't need a 2nd or 3rd village really. Put this money in your army and just conquer the main village of some poor sod that did not build palace but residence. Chieftains are very expensive but the profit you make is mad.
Ok, in that case, when is the right time to upgrade the fields?
And what happens if the nearby villages (let's say up to an hour raiding distance away) start to dry up, should you just try and find villages even farther away?
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I'm raiding villages up to 2 1/2 hours away now.
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