EPTis declaring war a similar way? i heard there is no marriage alliance to take over another country/title through bloodline.
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
is declaring war a similar way? i heard there is no marriage alliance to take over another country/title through bloodline. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11427 Posts
This is all EU3 of course. I'd expect some things to change in EU4, but the general focus on state level things, and a more wholeistic approach to statecraft when compared to CK2 will probably still be there. | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On June 06 2013 06:27 jinorazi wrote: i plan on getting this but i do not know anything about EU, i've only played ck2. what are the differences? is declaring war a similar way? i heard there is no marriage alliance to take over another country/title through bloodline. The only character in the game is your king. But he isnt a playable character, he is just an abstraction of management/diplomacy/war/science stats. You basically control the whole country, and there are no sub rulers like counts/dukes. You are just the highest lord of whatever state you pick (although there is a HRE but its more of diplomacy thing, you cant use other states within the empire's troops for example). There is more focus on merchants, with actual merchant units and trade centers, and colonization of whole provinces. You still build up invididual proinces the way you build up your provinces in CK but that is about it. And the map covers the whole world. | ||
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Malpractice.248
United States734 Posts
On June 06 2013 06:27 jinorazi wrote: i plan on getting this but i do not know anything about EU, i've only played ck2. what are the differences? is declaring war a similar way? i heard there is no marriage alliance to take over another country/title through bloodline. Other 2 said it pretty well. Do note, though. If youre on their forums (paradox forums, that is) and own a game (registered the game) On jan 2013, they gave out Eu3 Chronicles for free to everyone. You can still PM the community manager (who made the sticky thread, in the Eu3 forums) and get a key for steam for free. I did it this morning at work, had it like 10 min later. He was online at the time, though. | ||
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GhostOwl
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GhostOwl
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Simberto
Germany11427 Posts
On June 06 2013 10:57 GhostOwl wrote: I really wish they would be very historical. For example, if you choose to play as the Native America tribes, you can alter history by having gunpowder technology before the colonists arrive. You drive off Europeans from the continent, and Spain/England no longer becomes a global power because they dont have colonies. The change of British history means America is never born, and then Axis powers end up winning WW2....all because you played as native americans who prevented the colonists from ever landing. Hm? So do you wish them to be more historical, or less? Because in EU3, you can already do all of that (well, except for the WW2 part), except for getting gunpowder before the colonists arrive. I successfully created a great Cherokee Empire consisting of most of the Americas after fighting off european colonists for 2 centuries and slowly assimilating their technology. Then i started colonizing Spain. Of course at that point you are so far from real history that even if a second World War would happen, that one would have nothing to do with the one we know. If you want to do all of history in one playthrough, i think there are ways to import your gamestate from one game to another via mods, though you might need to do some modding yourself. So you could play a kind of consistent word through CK2, Eu3, Vic2, HoI3. If that is what you were looking for. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
1. The Scale and the fact that EU3 definetly has different stages, Medieval (early game), Colonization(mid game), and End game. CK2 is smaller (for obvious reasons) and is mostly the same from the start to the end (you're just a lot stronger). 2. Ck2 is a lot about micromanaging relations and tricks to obtain Casus Belli. Appart from a few laws you don't have that much national decisions to make. EU3 on the other hand has 0 character relations and I feel diplomacy is a bit subpar, on the other hand the game focus on national decisions (government types, ideas, techs and finances) and conquests are a lot more straightforward. Worth noting that in CK2 you instantly raise your troops and the number depends on how much your vassals like you while in EU3 you just build units according to a max supply determined by buildings and the size of your country (+/- bonuses). However, imo, the feeling of war is almost the same. Even though EU has more stuff going on in wars in the numbers department, I never felt much of a difference. If you want to do all of history in one playthrough, i think there are ways to import your gamestate from one game to another via mods, though you might need to do some modding yourself. So you could play a kind of consistent word through CK2, Eu3, Vic2, HoI3. If that is what you were looking for. Save Game conversion mod exist. Never tested them but there are some people that like going CK2 > EU3 > Vic2 with the same nation transplanted from one game to another with conversion tools. http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?587798-The-CK2-To-EU3-Converter-Project | ||
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Simberto
Germany11427 Posts
In CK2 it is mostly just running your largest armies facefirst into the largest enemy army, and then chasing dozens of small armies sieging your stuff. Combat is kind of tedious, but not very tactical here. | ||
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
And you still have to chase after running away armies or rebels poping here and there. At least yeah I'm happy for hunt rebels. | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
How is this not exciting? | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
Simply beautiful. | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
There are 36 out right now, with 1 additionally coming out each week. I hope we can get a multiplayer session up once the game is out, provided the multiplayer works at the start :p | ||
Myles
United States5162 Posts
Good game play preview with England and info on some other nations as well. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
I want to play those preview versions.  | ||
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eqez
Sweden837 Posts
Ive never really tried to master the combat shock etc and just trying to be ahead in tech and always attack when i have a larger army | ||
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Simberto
Germany11427 Posts
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eqez
Sweden837 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11427 Posts
And because my WE is maxed, i always had to have stacks in Sibiria to combat those wicked rebels there. I don't even know what they do. If they just wouldn't tell me that they are rebelling, i doubt anyone would notice. It is not like those provinces actually produce anything useful at all. | ||
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