Europa Universalis IV - Page 208

On May 14 2018 01:14 zer0das wrote:
Oh snap, didn't realize there was drama. Figures. Also I can't imagine playing on speed one for long periods of time, I would flip tables or get super distracted.

Sui king save scums pretty unapologetically and frequently. He does it like almost every game too, and I only do it if I'm achievement hunting these days. And that's mostly a time issue and I feel kneecapped being 2-3 dlcs behind because I'm cheap.

On June 05 2018 11:14 Nakajin wrote:
Quick question, how are you suppose to dismantle the HRE? I only found online that I have to siege all elector+emperor capitals or have them ally, and I did all of it but I can't see what to do.
A few info just to make sure I didn't do anything wrong:
- Bohemia (my ally) is not in the wars
- I am in two wars both against electors
- One of the war is imperialist, one is a conquest (a mist click)
- I am not myself in the HRE as I'm playing France

I mostly wanted to dismantle the HRE for fun (and the achievement), but I would kind of hate having it done for nothing (well a 100 warscore on like 10 country, but not what I wanted the most)

On June 05 2018 13:24 arb wrote:

you need to call in bohemia and have all of the electors either in a war with you or have their capital occupied by you

also from the wiki;
In order to dismantle the HRE, it is necessary to be at war against the Emperor, occupy the Emperor's capital, and have none of the Electors as "independent." Whether an Elector is counted as "independent" is not determined by whether they are independent or subject nations. The conditions are:

If the Elector is independent and does not join the war, it is "independent."
If the Elector is allied to the war leader against the Emperor, it is "not independent."
If the Elector is a vassal of the war leader against the Emperor, it is "not independent."
If the Elector is a vassal of someone other than the war leader, and does not participate in the war fighting against the war leader, it is "independent."
If the Elector is a vassal of the Emperor, or is independent and allied to the Emperor and joins the war, the Elector is "not independent" if their capital is captured.
If the Elector is a vassal of any country other than the Emperor or the war leader, it is "independent."
That is, in order to dismantle the HRE, it is helpful or even necessary to either ally with or vassalize the Electors, and the war must involve the Emperor and all Electors on either side. This, however, does not necessarily mean all Electors must be at war: an Elector allied to the war leader still counts as "not independent" even if it is not directly involved in the war, and if a third party (including rebels) takes one of the allied/vassalized Elector capital, the Elector is "independent" again. Dismantling the HRE will grant +100 prestige to the war leader, and remove the HRE interface altogether.

In addition, the HRE will automatically be dismantled if there is nobody eligible to be elected Emperor (see above for requirements).

In order to be dismantled the empire must have at least one elector. An empire without electors but with an eligible emperor turns hereditary and can not be dismantled (The Erbkaisertaum reform is not passed by this however). This can happen lategame if all member states have converted to non-Catholic religions but the AI did not start the League War, leading to a Catholic emperor without eligible electors.

On June 13 2018 12:04 ZeroChrome wrote:
I just had the opportunity to contest a PU on this 1600 dev byzantium but accidentally closed the popup while checking the diplomacy of the fucking minor nation they had become a junior of. Tried savescumming once but the ruler had died when he was 16.



I'm genuinely upset right now like SURELY THIS SHIT SHOULD GIVE YOU A SHORT CASUS BELLI OR SOMETHING INSTEAD OF THE MOST GENERIC FUCKING POPUP THAT CAN BE CLOSED WITH THE FUCKING ESC KEY.