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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
March 15 2018 05:08 GMT
#4081
On March 15 2018 13:31 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2018 12:54 arb wrote:
On March 15 2018 09:05 Sermokala wrote:
No there isn't. we talk about other paradox games in this thread though.

I don't have positive things to say about hoi 4.

New expansion is quite well done imo, though it has far less replayability and variation as Eu4 its still not terrible

I disagree. It has mobile game levels of depth and punish's any attempt at strategy. The expansions have focused on minor nations that people don't really play (not just my opinion they've released data on what nation people play what percent of the time) and the new expansion focus's on another boring part of the world thats ment to be the early game road bump for japan.

They can't even sell the game in china because it portrays china as a divided nation during WW2. Kaiserreich is at least worth the money buying the game but its a new low for the company and a bizarre development plan.

No the game isnt difficult, once you figure out the economy system its actually super easy.

20 hours for me to be able to straight win mostly because i was doing eu4 style stack moving which i quickly realized didnt work.

however the new trees for germany and stuff are quite interesting imo
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11975 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-15 14:40:49
March 15 2018 14:40 GMT
#4082
On March 15 2018 13:31 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2018 12:54 arb wrote:
On March 15 2018 09:05 Sermokala wrote:
No there isn't. we talk about other paradox games in this thread though.

I don't have positive things to say about hoi 4.

New expansion is quite well done imo, though it has far less replayability and variation as Eu4 its still not terrible

I disagree. It has mobile game levels of depth and punish's any attempt at strategy. The expansions have focused on minor nations that people don't really play (not just my opinion they've released data on what nation people play what percent of the time) and the new expansion focus's on another boring part of the world thats ment to be the early game road bump for japan.

They can't even sell the game in china because it portrays china as a divided nation during WW2. Kaiserreich is at least worth the money buying the game but its a new low for the company and a bizarre development plan.


I'll agree China wasn't that divided. It was republican with losing the Japanese war allowing the Communists a comeback, thus the communists can be removed in that era? Is that what they want?

Any sources I can find say it was divided between republican forces, warlords and some communist forces.

HoI4 is decently fun if you do a few decisions then turn everything to AI control and just spectate it. Then do something now and then. Actually fully playing it was not that fun to me.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-15 14:49:53
March 15 2018 14:49 GMT
#4083
HoI4 is a lot better in multiplayer. Still not as good as other Paradox games imo, but it's good fun if you have a decent group of people to play it with. A lot of the game's issues stem from AI's utter inability to do, well, anything really.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 15 2018 18:17 GMT
#4084
I was thinking about buying some DLC for EU4, but since there is more then 300$ of DLC for this game on Steam I was wondering which one were the most interesting.
Any proposition?
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
March 15 2018 18:32 GMT
#4085
I am actually enjoying HoI4 more and more with each expansion. I have tried both Democratic Germany (hello six research slots) and Communist China. The game is much more interesting when you turn off historical focuses. For example, in my game as Communist China, I was invited to Japan's faction when they attacked mainland China, even though I was working on improving relations with the USSR.
EZ4ENCE
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4736 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-16 09:41:23
March 16 2018 08:10 GMT
#4086
On March 16 2018 03:17 Nakajin wrote:
I was thinking about buying some DLC for EU4, but since there is more then 300$ of DLC for this game on Steam I was wondering which one were the most interesting.
Any proposition?


First wait for sale, most DLCs go down about 75% in price.

DLC list and their content can be found here: https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Downloadable_content
I would say:
Art of War - general
Rights of Men - general
Conquest of Paradise - if You want to play with Random New World
Third Rome - If You want to play in Russia region
Mandate of Heaven - If You want to play in China region

personally i have everything minus Cradle of Civilization in which everything that was intresting for me was included in free patch.
Pathetic Greta hater.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
March 16 2018 08:42 GMT
#4087
On March 16 2018 17:10 Silvanel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2018 03:17 Nakajin wrote:
I was thinking about buying some DLC for EU4, but since there is more then 300$ of DLC for this game on Steam I was wondering which one were the most interesting.
Any proposition?


First wait for sale, most DLCs go down about 75% in price.

DLC list and content can be found here: https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Downloadable_content
I would say:
Art of War - general
Rights of Men - general
Conquest of Paradise - if You want to play with Random New World
Third Rome - If You want to play in Russia region
Mandate of Heaven - If You want to play in China region

personally i have everything minus Cradle of Civilization in which everything that was intresting for me was included in free patch.

I think Common Sense is a required DLC basically too, cant develop provinces without it iirc?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4736 Posts
March 16 2018 09:41 GMT
#4088
In that case i would recommend it also, its hard to keep of track of what is where and what was free/paid feature.
Pathetic Greta hater.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
March 16 2018 13:54 GMT
#4089
On March 16 2018 03:17 Nakajin wrote:
I was thinking about buying some DLC for EU4, but since there is more then 300$ of DLC for this game on Steam I was wondering which one were the most interesting.
Any proposition?


Get the empire founder pack. It contains the best DLC at an extra discount.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
March 16 2018 17:22 GMT
#4090
El Dorado if you want to build a custom nation too...
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-30 22:08:25
March 30 2018 22:08 GMT
#4091
Almost there:

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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 02 2018 22:35 GMT
#4092
[image loading]

RTS background paid off
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
April 03 2018 16:40 GMT
#4093
How'd you pull that off?
Entusman #12
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 16:56:59
April 03 2018 16:46 GMT
#4094
Absolutely haram. But seriously, it cracks me up to have a Holy Roman Emperor Arabia that is Christian.
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
April 03 2018 17:30 GMT
#4095
Impressive. I spent hours this weekend just trying and failing to beat a big Ming blob as Bharat. Amazed at WC.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1947 Posts
April 03 2018 18:21 GMT
#4096
Wait what? At 1537? wow!
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 03 2018 18:28 GMT
#4097
On April 04 2018 01:40 littlechava wrote:
How'd you pull that off?


At a certain point the game becomes like BW when all the mechanics are figured out. A speed WC is about 40% strategy 60% micro, only the micro can never be as hard as BW because you can pause in 4x games. The rest is having the patience to do all that's necessary to min/max every detail and the willpower to spend something like 60-80 hours playing on speed 2. I'm uploading the entire run here: https://www.youtube.com/c/accordion

Basically after 2k hours in the game I realized someone without the same RTS background can't possibly have the fastest time.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11975 Posts
April 03 2018 18:33 GMT
#4098
Impressive. World conquest requires insane amount of microing, not the way I enjoy the game but it is impressive seeing people keep finding new ways to do it faster.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1947 Posts
April 03 2018 18:56 GMT
#4099
Which kind of mechanic did you use to get the monarch points needed for that? You can game AE and and at some point manpower and rebels are trivial, but the monarch points for integration and conquering alone should be impossible. That's like a 90% discount you would need to have.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 19:25:22
April 03 2018 19:24 GMT
#4100
Razing provinces pay for the coring cost even with no CCR (I think, but it's close and depends on dev). With any amount of CCR the bottleneck becomes coring time way before coring cost. General bottlenecks are coring time, siege time, diplomats, army travel time, and new world native migration RNG. Not money or even mp for most of the game.
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