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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On July 04 2012 02:38 Zorkmid wrote: Landry Fields Signs offer sheet with Raptors Seems like a lot of dough, but I love his game. Super steady smart player. Can shoot the ball a bit. for once some good news from raptors camp ... | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Anthony Parker won 2 MVPs over there. On July 04 2012 01:52 XaI)CyRiC wrote: Apparently the Nets have just signed one of the best players in Europe: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/222018/Mirza_Teletovic_Reaches_Deal_With_Nets Found a description via Google on a Nets blog: http://netsarescorching.com/2012/06/18/meet-mirza-teletovic/ The comparison to somewhere between Ryan Anderson and Channing Frye make him sound like a good fit next to someone like Dwight. The fact that they're apparently going to be signing him to a 3-year $15.675M contract makes their cap situation even more precarious under the hypothetical Deron-JJ-D12 big 3 team. Deron $19M JJ $19.75M D12 $19M Mirza $5 Total: $62.75M Edit: Oops, forgot to break up the contract into each year. Still not a lot of money left to fill out a lot of roster spots. +10 Mil to Wallace. I really think people are going to be surprised when this team gets rocked. | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
The Boston Celtics have reached agreement with Dallas Mavericks free-agent guard Jason Terry on a three-year contract sick pick up but that probably means allen is gone now ...  | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
just read the details, they use their mle to get him, which means there is still PLENTY of cap space to go around. | ||
XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
On July 04 2012 02:42 Ace wrote: Never take Euroleague "stars" seriously until they play in the NBA. Euroleague is literally little league compared to the NBA. Anthony Parker won 2 MVPs over there. +10 Mil to Wallace. I really think people are going to be surprised when this team gets rocked. I had heard that the proposed deal to get D12 would include GWall, so I left him out. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
I seriously don't see this happening and if it does I still think it's going to be a monumental disaster. Even in the dream land scenario of D-Will, JJ, Crash, random russian guy, and Dwight Howard I think they would get absolutely mauled in the Eastern Conference. I think Boston and Indy as currently construced would devastate this team in 5 games if they got lucky. | ||
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
PG: Blake ($4M); Morris ($0.9M) SG: Kobe ($27.8M); Goudelock ($0.7M) SF: Ebanks ($1M); Eyenga ($1.1M) PF: Gasol ($19M); McRoberts ($3.1M) C: D12 ($19M); Hill ($3.6M) Total: $80.2M for 10 players I wonder how much the Buss family is willing to pay in luxury tax, particularly with the revenue sharing that's going to eat into everything they make. It's a bit concerning because both Ebanks and Hill are apparently drawing interest from other teams, which may raise the cost of keeping them. Sessions would likely become too expensive to retain, barring a complete lack of interest from other teams (unlikely). Relying on Goudelock and Eyenga in any capacity makes me nervous. But still, I think the Lakers have to go for it because D12 is too good of an asset for the team, particularly with regards to providing someone to build around after Kobe. I doubt the team would contend right away barring some really good moves to bring in better role players, substantial improvement from the rookies, and/or the Buss family just saying "f*** it" and paying a ton of luxury tax. I'd be very excited to see what kind of damage a Pau/D12 frontcourt would do though. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
would the lakers get howards bird rights if they make a trade? | ||
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Ace
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a176
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On July 04 2012 05:20 XaI)CyRiC wrote: I had heard that the proposed deal to get D12 would include GWall, so I left him out. It looks like the offer is lopez/hump/brooks + 3 or 4 first round picks. I think you're drastically underestimating dwill + dwight. Dwight has played with essentially scrubs for the last however many years and taken his team deep in the playoffs almost every year. I'm not saying they are overnight instant contenders for the championship. But a team of dwight + jj + dwill + crash as a core is scary as fuck regardless of the scrubs you surround it with. They just signed reggie evans + mirza also. Let's talk money anyways. First off, Prokhorov is the second richest owner in the league. His net worth is 13 billion dollars. You don't think they're consulting him a bit before they make some of these moves? I'm sure they don't give a rats ass about being 8-10 million over the tax threshold. The extra 30-50 mill that they'll be paying in taxes is nothing to him. More importantly, NY is the biggest market in professional sports. The amount of money that they could potentially make in tv revenue alone justifies the expenses. NY is a huge market compared to Miami. Miami actually lost money this year in part because their TV deals are nothing compared to chicago/LA/new york. And of course ticket sales are going to go further in new york than most other places. Anyways, the point is, money doesn't matter. This team still has a good chance of being profitable. And if they're not, so what? Clearly prokhorov doesn't really give a rats ass right now. Also, about their cap preventing player signings. Once they get a verbal commitment from dwill, they will undoubtedly sign him after they sign on a few more free agents. With his bird rights, they can go however far over the cap they can afford to. So they'll have something like 8-10 million bucks to work with and sign a bunch of players. | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On July 04 2012 02:38 Zorkmid wrote: Landry Fields Signs offer sheet with Raptors Seems like a lot of dough, but I love his game. Super steady smart player. Can shoot the ball a bit. This is deceptively the most intelligent move of the offseason. NYK wanted to include landry in a sign-and-trade deal with the Suns for Nash. Now that is off the table. Which makes it harder for NYK to work out a deal for Nash. So the Raptors have slowly pissed off some of their competition. And suppose NYK do land Nash anyways. Well the raptors are going to go after Lin. And odds are, with Lin's best friend (Landry) going to Toronto, he'll have some incentive to follow. That offer sheet really puts Toronto in a good place to sign either Nash or Lin. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
And yes I'm underestimating D-Will + Dwight because I've seen them play for the last 5 years. I kinda hope this deal happens so people can see how badly this crashes and burns once Deron Williams steps off the court. | ||
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VENDIZ
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
D12: $19M JJ: $19.7M GWall: $10M Mirza: $5M Evans: $1.6M Total: $74.3M for 6 players That's a lot of payroll for less than half of a roster. | ||
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Goetzinho ftw
Germany115 Posts
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VENDIZ
1575 Posts
.. so they could have a Brook-Lin two punch combo! (shameless steal from reddit) | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On July 04 2012 06:47 XaI)CyRiC wrote: Deron: $19M D12: $19M JJ: $19.7M GWall: $10M Mirza: $5M Evans: $1.6M Total: $74.3M for 6 players That's a lot of payroll for less than half of a roster. Most NBA teams look like that. EDIT: Most* is a bit much. "A bunch" | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On July 04 2012 06:09 DoomsVille wrote: Let's talk money anyways. First off, Prokhorov is the second richest owner in the league. His net worth is 13 billion dollars. You don't think they're consulting him a bit before they make some of these moves? I'm sure they don't give a rats ass about being 8-10 million over the tax threshold. The extra 30-50 mill that they'll be paying in taxes is nothing to him. More importantly, NY is the biggest market in professional sports. The amount of money that they could potentially make in tv revenue alone justifies the expenses. NY is a huge market compared to Miami. Miami actually lost money this year in part because their TV deals are nothing compared to chicago/LA/new york. And of course ticket sales are going to go further in new york than most other places. Anyways, the point is, money doesn't matter. This team still has a good chance of being profitable. And if they're not, so what? Clearly prokhorov doesn't really give a rats ass right now. Also, about their cap preventing player signings. Once they get a verbal commitment from dwill, they will undoubtedly sign him after they sign on a few more free agents. With his bird rights, they can go however far over the cap they can afford to. So they'll have something like 8-10 million bucks to work with and sign a bunch of players. Yes agree with a lot of this and what the other guy said about baseball's model of what a new stadium does, which is what I meant when I said this earlier On July 04 2012 00:32 MassHysteria wrote: Wow. With the promised of a new stadium and excitement of a new team, maybe Prokhorov figures now is the time to go for it if he does. It is fair to say he could wipe his ass with 100 million so maybe he decided to just do it. I am sure the Nets aren't really worried about not being profitable even with the luxury tax they will pay if/when they go over. I am not sure about your last paragraph though. If D-Will signs with them I am pretty sure it just means that they can resign HIM without taking into account the cap, not any player. On July 04 2012 06:16 Ace wrote: There is a 74 million dollar hard cap. They can't afford everyone. Doesn't matter how rich the owner is. And yes I'm underestimating D-Will + Dwight because I've seen them play for the last 5 years. I kinda hope this deal happens so people can see how badly this crashes and burns once Deron Williams steps off the court. NBA doesn't have a hard-cap, just a soft cap. Teams can go over the soft-cap but have to pay luxury taxes over the $74 million you say and aren't allowed to straight up sign free-agents anymore though, unless they use their exceptions. But ya, the whole point of the CBA was to make these teams paying the taxes suffer more for it. And interesting about the Nash-to-NYK angle by Toronto on signing Fields. Had no idea on that before you mentioned it but makes so much sense! | ||
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Irave
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