Well, Baldur's Gate was pretty awesome too. But Fallout 2 IS a maginificent game that deserves to be praised whenever it is mentioned.
Between F3 and NV, I'd play F3.
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Latham
9568 Posts
On June 14 2012 10:21 sam!zdat wrote: Show nested quote + On June 14 2012 01:17 TheToast wrote: Fallout 2 is not only the best of the Fallout series, it's arguable THE BEST PC RPG EVER MADE. \ It's not arguable. Well, Baldur's Gate was pretty awesome too. But Fallout 2 IS a maginificent game that deserves to be praised whenever it is mentioned. Between F3 and NV, I'd play F3. | ||
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
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Ubikuuu!
Italy285 Posts
F1 - Best mood and story. F2 - Bigger and more fun. Back OT. Wall of text incoming, extremely mild spoilers ahead. - I really prefer the "old-westernish" stile of NV than the grey ruins and dark tunnels of F3, and that's personal. Not that NV lacks Old world relics to explore (nor F3 wastelands to roam), but to me the contrast between the Nevada wastelands and the ruins you find enhance the almost mystical feeling of ancient technology. F3 subway is a pain to navigate. - NV story leaves you WAY more choice and it's overall more solid. F3 "evil plan" is a monodirectional F2 half copycat. -F3 PC: vault kid looking for his daddy Vs NV PC: badass Postman-like courier shot in the head and buried alive out for answers... and revenge. - In NV there is no clearly Good Vs Evil factions, all have their motivations (probably the Legion ones are too "ideologically stretched", but people like those exists so...). In F3 on the other hand... - NV has respect for the predecessors: NCR, the Remnants, the Followers, Marcus, Cass, the real BoS. In F3 all we got is an old friend... ruined. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjKAwVblV6I This just sealed the deal for me. - One of the most important thing, the DLCs. NV has the best DLCs I ever played (except for Lonesome Road, which was decent anyway), Dead Money and Honest Hearts to me are pure art. Old world blues is a lot of fun except for the school part, but not as moody. Now look at F3 DLCs: a very badly wasted chance at something great, a quite nice swampy sandbox, and ALIENZ! WIT LAZORS! Come ooooon. Also, USE MODS. + Show Spoiler + find them here for the last two Fallouts and TES games + Show Spoiler + http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/topalltime/?adult=0 . First get and install when needed NVedit, NV script extender, NV 4gb enabler and NVModManager. . Play in windowed with the Fallout fullscreen launcher to get rid of micro stutter. Then I would suggest: . NV bounties 1 and 2 (two nice long voiced chain quest) . A world of pain (a lot of new areas and tough enemies, quite op loot tho, I suggest not using the "M" guns) . Neveda skies (Sky HD retexture and awesome weather effects) . Project Nevada (this is an absolute must have overhaul, easily and fully customizable through the game menu) . WMX (A lot of new weapons and weapon mods combinations) . NMC texture pack (HD ambient both natural and man made texture replacer) . EVE . Type3 body and armor replacer (the non-nude version of BEWARE OF THE GIRL). Remember to also get all the inter-mod compatibility patches. Easy install with NVMM and then use NVedit to create a merged mod patch to avoid most conflicts. There are much more, but these are sort of a must. If you choose F3 also make sure to take a look at the great modding comunity in the same site, it really enhance the game greatly. TL;DR: NV is better. Play NV DLCs. Use mods. luv. | ||
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Crit
Finland30 Posts
Played it through 27 times without Falche 2 editor, about the same number of playthroughs with it. | ||
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Candadar
2049 Posts
On June 14 2012 13:39 Angra wrote: To all the people saying Fallout 1/2 are the best, I don't think you understand the question he's asking. He's not asking which is the best Fallout of all time, he's asking which is better of the two he listed. Like 50% of this thread is people coming in and being like "LOL R U STUPID?? FALLOUT 2 DA BEST!!!" which is all fine if you think that, but seriously, THIS many people don't really need to derail the thread about it. It's like someone creating a thread asking which of the modern 3D Final Fantasy games are the best, and half the thread is littered with "FF4/5/6 IS THE BEST EVER ARE YOU KIDDING WHY EVEN ASK ABOUT THESE WORSE GAMES" + Show Spoiler + that's the joke | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On June 14 2012 10:21 sam!zdat wrote: Show nested quote + On June 14 2012 01:17 TheToast wrote: Fallout 2 is not only the best of the Fallout series, it's arguable THE BEST PC RPG EVER MADE. \ It's not arguable. Weeeeellllll yeah it is. There are a lot of other amazing RPGs from the same time period that are equally amazing: the Baldur's gate games are pretty great, as is Neverwinter Nights. Personally I might have to edge FO2 over those two, but one could easily make the argument that they are the better RPG, but it's pretty close. On June 14 2012 13:39 Angra wrote: To all the people saying Fallout 1/2 are the best, I don't think you understand the question he's asking. He's not asking which is the best Fallout of all time, he's asking which is better of the two he listed. Like 50% of this thread is people coming in and being like "LOL R U STUPID?? FALLOUT 2 DA BEST!!!" which is all fine if you think that, but seriously, THIS many people don't really need to derail the thread about it. It's like someone creating a thread asking which of the modern 3D Final Fantasy games are the best, and half the thread is littered with "FF4/5/6 IS THE BEST EVER ARE YOU KIDDING WHY EVEN ASK ABOUT THESE WORSE GAMES" On topic, I didn't finish Fallout 3 but played quite a lot, and did play all of NV, and I enjoyed NV quite a bit more. They're both very similar but NV just improved upon what made Fallout 3 good to begin with. Translation: "I never played FO1 or FO2 and therefore have no idea what I'm talking about, so I'll just write BS about being off topic" Honestly, any real RPG fan would tell you 1 and 2 are better. I get it if someone's a bigger FPS fan why they might like 3 better, but really the original Fallout series are two of the finest video games ever made. | ||
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Nyctophobia
Canada99 Posts
FO1 and FO2 are easily some of the best games that I've ever played, but to answer your question, FO3 and NV feel like they're pretty much the same game and the same experience can be achieved regardless of which one you choose to play. + Show Spoiler + FO1/2 >>>>>> FO3/NV | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 14 2012 23:22 TheToast wrote: Weeeeellllll yeah it is. There are a lot of other amazing RPGs from the same time period that are equally amazing: the Baldur's gate games are pretty great, as is Neverwinter Nights. Personally I might have to edge FO2 over those two, but one could easily make the argument that they are the better RPG, but it's pretty close.NWN was only really redeemed by the mods/editor. The default campaign was pretty trashy. "Best CRPG ever made" is going to be a 3-way tie between BG2, PST, FO1/2, depending on who you ask, with a cult following for Arcanum on the side. | ||
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mcimba42
192 Posts
On June 14 2012 23:38 TheYango wrote: Show nested quote + On June 14 2012 23:22 TheToast wrote: Weeeeellllll yeah it is. There are a lot of other amazing RPGs from the same time period that are equally amazing: the Baldur's gate games are pretty great, as is Neverwinter Nights. Personally I might have to edge FO2 over those two, but one could easily make the argument that they are the better RPG, but it's pretty close.NWN was only really redeemed by the mods/editor. The default campaign was pretty trashy. "Best CRPG ever made" is going to be a 3-way tie between BG2, PST, FO1/2, depending on who you ask, with a cult following for Arcanum on the side. i'm pretty sure most people would agree that while pst is well above any of those in terms of the story, it's nowhere near as good in terms of actually being an rpg | ||
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
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Candadar
2049 Posts
On June 14 2012 23:49 AgentChaos wrote: just play both, they are really good If you play both at least play FO3 first because you'll hate it if you play it second. | ||
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
On June 14 2012 23:22 TheToast wrote: Show nested quote + On June 14 2012 10:21 sam!zdat wrote: On June 14 2012 01:17 TheToast wrote: Fallout 2 is not only the best of the Fallout series, it's arguable THE BEST PC RPG EVER MADE. \ It's not arguable. Weeeeellllll yeah it is. There are a lot of other amazing RPGs from the same time period that are equally amazing: the Baldur's gate games are pretty great, as is Neverwinter Nights. Personally I might have to edge FO2 over those two, but one could easily make the argument that they are the better RPG, but it's pretty close. Show nested quote + On June 14 2012 13:39 Angra wrote: To all the people saying Fallout 1/2 are the best, I don't think you understand the question he's asking. He's not asking which is the best Fallout of all time, he's asking which is better of the two he listed. Like 50% of this thread is people coming in and being like "LOL R U STUPID?? FALLOUT 2 DA BEST!!!" which is all fine if you think that, but seriously, THIS many people don't really need to derail the thread about it. It's like someone creating a thread asking which of the modern 3D Final Fantasy games are the best, and half the thread is littered with "FF4/5/6 IS THE BEST EVER ARE YOU KIDDING WHY EVEN ASK ABOUT THESE WORSE GAMES" On topic, I didn't finish Fallout 3 but played quite a lot, and did play all of NV, and I enjoyed NV quite a bit more. They're both very similar but NV just improved upon what made Fallout 3 good to begin with. Translation: "I never played FO1 or FO2 and therefore have no idea what I'm talking about, so I'll just write BS about being off topic" Honestly, any real RPG fan would tell you 1 and 2 are better. I get it if someone's a bigger FPS fan why they might like 3 better, but really the original Fallout series are two of the finest video games ever made. Point was that fallout 1 and 2 weren't in the OP's question. If you come in here, answer the OP's question, then also suggest he should try Fo 1 and 2 -even though he specifically said he didn't want to- because they are really good, that's fine. Or if you come in here and say, well I don't know about 3 or NV but you should reconsider trying 1 and 2. OK, but the whole thread is basically filled with people saying he should go play 1 and 2. I guess the title is partly at fault, it gave all the fallout 1 and 2 fans hope only to be dissapointed. | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
On June 15 2012 00:23 solidbebe wrote: Show nested quote + On June 14 2012 23:22 TheToast wrote: On June 14 2012 10:21 sam!zdat wrote: On June 14 2012 01:17 TheToast wrote: Fallout 2 is not only the best of the Fallout series, it's arguable THE BEST PC RPG EVER MADE. \ It's not arguable. Weeeeellllll yeah it is. There are a lot of other amazing RPGs from the same time period that are equally amazing: the Baldur's gate games are pretty great, as is Neverwinter Nights. Personally I might have to edge FO2 over those two, but one could easily make the argument that they are the better RPG, but it's pretty close. On June 14 2012 13:39 Angra wrote: To all the people saying Fallout 1/2 are the best, I don't think you understand the question he's asking. He's not asking which is the best Fallout of all time, he's asking which is better of the two he listed. Like 50% of this thread is people coming in and being like "LOL R U STUPID?? FALLOUT 2 DA BEST!!!" which is all fine if you think that, but seriously, THIS many people don't really need to derail the thread about it. It's like someone creating a thread asking which of the modern 3D Final Fantasy games are the best, and half the thread is littered with "FF4/5/6 IS THE BEST EVER ARE YOU KIDDING WHY EVEN ASK ABOUT THESE WORSE GAMES" On topic, I didn't finish Fallout 3 but played quite a lot, and did play all of NV, and I enjoyed NV quite a bit more. They're both very similar but NV just improved upon what made Fallout 3 good to begin with. Translation: "I never played FO1 or FO2 and therefore have no idea what I'm talking about, so I'll just write BS about being off topic" Honestly, any real RPG fan would tell you 1 and 2 are better. I get it if someone's a bigger FPS fan why they might like 3 better, but really the original Fallout series are two of the finest video games ever made. Point was that fallout 1 and 2 weren't in the OP's question. If you come in here, answer the OP's question, then also suggest he should try Fo 1 and 2 -even though he specifically said he didn't want to- because they are really good, that's fine. Or if you come in here and say, well I don't know about 3 or NV but you should reconsider trying 1 and 2. OK, but the whole thread is basically filled with people saying he should go play 1 and 2. I guess the title is partly at fault, it gave all the fallout 1 and 2 fans hope only to be dissapointed. I'm sorry, I didn't realize that this forum was open to being used by people as their own personal game reccommendation thread. If we can't discuss the whole series, then this is just a stupid poll thread that should be closed. Also, if someone asks for advice between two and only two options, yet there exists a fantastic third option, not telling them about the third option is stupid. That's like someone asking between two AMD processors saying their not interested in Intel, despite intel processors currently being better in every regard including value. Why would you not try to convince them to buy Intel? And it's not like he's the only one reading this thread, I'm sure others are going to come here looking for info on the series and they too deserve to get the full spread of options. | ||
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
On June 15 2012 00:29 TheToast wrote: Show nested quote + On June 15 2012 00:23 solidbebe wrote: On June 14 2012 23:22 TheToast wrote: On June 14 2012 10:21 sam!zdat wrote: On June 14 2012 01:17 TheToast wrote: Fallout 2 is not only the best of the Fallout series, it's arguable THE BEST PC RPG EVER MADE. \ It's not arguable. Weeeeellllll yeah it is. There are a lot of other amazing RPGs from the same time period that are equally amazing: the Baldur's gate games are pretty great, as is Neverwinter Nights. Personally I might have to edge FO2 over those two, but one could easily make the argument that they are the better RPG, but it's pretty close. On June 14 2012 13:39 Angra wrote: To all the people saying Fallout 1/2 are the best, I don't think you understand the question he's asking. He's not asking which is the best Fallout of all time, he's asking which is better of the two he listed. Like 50% of this thread is people coming in and being like "LOL R U STUPID?? FALLOUT 2 DA BEST!!!" which is all fine if you think that, but seriously, THIS many people don't really need to derail the thread about it. It's like someone creating a thread asking which of the modern 3D Final Fantasy games are the best, and half the thread is littered with "FF4/5/6 IS THE BEST EVER ARE YOU KIDDING WHY EVEN ASK ABOUT THESE WORSE GAMES" On topic, I didn't finish Fallout 3 but played quite a lot, and did play all of NV, and I enjoyed NV quite a bit more. They're both very similar but NV just improved upon what made Fallout 3 good to begin with. Translation: "I never played FO1 or FO2 and therefore have no idea what I'm talking about, so I'll just write BS about being off topic" Honestly, any real RPG fan would tell you 1 and 2 are better. I get it if someone's a bigger FPS fan why they might like 3 better, but really the original Fallout series are two of the finest video games ever made. Point was that fallout 1 and 2 weren't in the OP's question. If you come in here, answer the OP's question, then also suggest he should try Fo 1 and 2 -even though he specifically said he didn't want to- because they are really good, that's fine. Or if you come in here and say, well I don't know about 3 or NV but you should reconsider trying 1 and 2. OK, but the whole thread is basically filled with people saying he should go play 1 and 2. I guess the title is partly at fault, it gave all the fallout 1 and 2 fans hope only to be dissapointed. I'm sorry, I didn't realize that this forum was open to being used by people as their own personal game reccommendation thread. If we can't discuss the whole series, then this is just a stupid poll thread that should be closed. Also, if someone asks for advice between two and only two options, yet there exists a fantastic third option, not telling them about the third option is stupid. That's like someone asking between two AMD processors saying their not interested in Intel, despite intel processors currently being better in every regard including value. Why would you not try to convince them to buy Intel? And it's not like he's the only one reading this thread, I'm sure others are going to come here looking for info on the series and they too deserve to get the full spread of options. Hmm you make a fair point | ||
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Candadar
2049 Posts
On June 15 2012 00:23 solidbebe wrote: Show nested quote + On June 14 2012 23:22 TheToast wrote: On June 14 2012 10:21 sam!zdat wrote: On June 14 2012 01:17 TheToast wrote: Fallout 2 is not only the best of the Fallout series, it's arguable THE BEST PC RPG EVER MADE. \ It's not arguable. Weeeeellllll yeah it is. There are a lot of other amazing RPGs from the same time period that are equally amazing: the Baldur's gate games are pretty great, as is Neverwinter Nights. Personally I might have to edge FO2 over those two, but one could easily make the argument that they are the better RPG, but it's pretty close. On June 14 2012 13:39 Angra wrote: To all the people saying Fallout 1/2 are the best, I don't think you understand the question he's asking. He's not asking which is the best Fallout of all time, he's asking which is better of the two he listed. Like 50% of this thread is people coming in and being like "LOL R U STUPID?? FALLOUT 2 DA BEST!!!" which is all fine if you think that, but seriously, THIS many people don't really need to derail the thread about it. It's like someone creating a thread asking which of the modern 3D Final Fantasy games are the best, and half the thread is littered with "FF4/5/6 IS THE BEST EVER ARE YOU KIDDING WHY EVEN ASK ABOUT THESE WORSE GAMES" On topic, I didn't finish Fallout 3 but played quite a lot, and did play all of NV, and I enjoyed NV quite a bit more. They're both very similar but NV just improved upon what made Fallout 3 good to begin with. Translation: "I never played FO1 or FO2 and therefore have no idea what I'm talking about, so I'll just write BS about being off topic" Honestly, any real RPG fan would tell you 1 and 2 are better. I get it if someone's a bigger FPS fan why they might like 3 better, but really the original Fallout series are two of the finest video games ever made. Point was that fallout 1 and 2 weren't in the OP's question. If you come in here, answer the OP's question, then also suggest he should try Fo 1 and 2 -even though he specifically said he didn't want to- because they are really good, that's fine. Or if you come in here and say, well I don't know about 3 or NV but you should reconsider trying 1 and 2. OK, but the whole thread is basically filled with people saying he should go play 1 and 2. I guess the title is partly at fault, it gave all the fallout 1 and 2 fans hope only to be dissapointed. dat backseat moderating. I agree with the burnt toast above though. EDIT: But really, the title is "Which Fallout is the best", I know OP specified in his post but come on ![]() | ||
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mcimba42
192 Posts
On June 15 2012 00:29 TheToast wrote: Show nested quote + On June 15 2012 00:23 solidbebe wrote: On June 14 2012 23:22 TheToast wrote: On June 14 2012 10:21 sam!zdat wrote: On June 14 2012 01:17 TheToast wrote: Fallout 2 is not only the best of the Fallout series, it's arguable THE BEST PC RPG EVER MADE. \ It's not arguable. Weeeeellllll yeah it is. There are a lot of other amazing RPGs from the same time period that are equally amazing: the Baldur's gate games are pretty great, as is Neverwinter Nights. Personally I might have to edge FO2 over those two, but one could easily make the argument that they are the better RPG, but it's pretty close. On June 14 2012 13:39 Angra wrote: To all the people saying Fallout 1/2 are the best, I don't think you understand the question he's asking. He's not asking which is the best Fallout of all time, he's asking which is better of the two he listed. Like 50% of this thread is people coming in and being like "LOL R U STUPID?? FALLOUT 2 DA BEST!!!" which is all fine if you think that, but seriously, THIS many people don't really need to derail the thread about it. It's like someone creating a thread asking which of the modern 3D Final Fantasy games are the best, and half the thread is littered with "FF4/5/6 IS THE BEST EVER ARE YOU KIDDING WHY EVEN ASK ABOUT THESE WORSE GAMES" On topic, I didn't finish Fallout 3 but played quite a lot, and did play all of NV, and I enjoyed NV quite a bit more. They're both very similar but NV just improved upon what made Fallout 3 good to begin with. Translation: "I never played FO1 or FO2 and therefore have no idea what I'm talking about, so I'll just write BS about being off topic" Honestly, any real RPG fan would tell you 1 and 2 are better. I get it if someone's a bigger FPS fan why they might like 3 better, but really the original Fallout series are two of the finest video games ever made. Point was that fallout 1 and 2 weren't in the OP's question. If you come in here, answer the OP's question, then also suggest he should try Fo 1 and 2 -even though he specifically said he didn't want to- because they are really good, that's fine. Or if you come in here and say, well I don't know about 3 or NV but you should reconsider trying 1 and 2. OK, but the whole thread is basically filled with people saying he should go play 1 and 2. I guess the title is partly at fault, it gave all the fallout 1 and 2 fans hope only to be dissapointed. I'm sorry, I didn't realize that this forum was open to being used by people as their own personal game reccommendation thread. If we can't discuss the whole series, then this is just a stupid poll thread that should be closed. yea fuck these recommendation threads should just recommend boku no pico imo | ||
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
On June 15 2012 00:38 Candadar wrote: Show nested quote + On June 15 2012 00:23 solidbebe wrote: On June 14 2012 23:22 TheToast wrote: On June 14 2012 10:21 sam!zdat wrote: On June 14 2012 01:17 TheToast wrote: Fallout 2 is not only the best of the Fallout series, it's arguable THE BEST PC RPG EVER MADE. \ It's not arguable. Weeeeellllll yeah it is. There are a lot of other amazing RPGs from the same time period that are equally amazing: the Baldur's gate games are pretty great, as is Neverwinter Nights. Personally I might have to edge FO2 over those two, but one could easily make the argument that they are the better RPG, but it's pretty close. On June 14 2012 13:39 Angra wrote: To all the people saying Fallout 1/2 are the best, I don't think you understand the question he's asking. He's not asking which is the best Fallout of all time, he's asking which is better of the two he listed. Like 50% of this thread is people coming in and being like "LOL R U STUPID?? FALLOUT 2 DA BEST!!!" which is all fine if you think that, but seriously, THIS many people don't really need to derail the thread about it. It's like someone creating a thread asking which of the modern 3D Final Fantasy games are the best, and half the thread is littered with "FF4/5/6 IS THE BEST EVER ARE YOU KIDDING WHY EVEN ASK ABOUT THESE WORSE GAMES" On topic, I didn't finish Fallout 3 but played quite a lot, and did play all of NV, and I enjoyed NV quite a bit more. They're both very similar but NV just improved upon what made Fallout 3 good to begin with. Translation: "I never played FO1 or FO2 and therefore have no idea what I'm talking about, so I'll just write BS about being off topic" Honestly, any real RPG fan would tell you 1 and 2 are better. I get it if someone's a bigger FPS fan why they might like 3 better, but really the original Fallout series are two of the finest video games ever made. Point was that fallout 1 and 2 weren't in the OP's question. If you come in here, answer the OP's question, then also suggest he should try Fo 1 and 2 -even though he specifically said he didn't want to- because they are really good, that's fine. Or if you come in here and say, well I don't know about 3 or NV but you should reconsider trying 1 and 2. OK, but the whole thread is basically filled with people saying he should go play 1 and 2. I guess the title is partly at fault, it gave all the fallout 1 and 2 fans hope only to be dissapointed. dat backseat moderating. I agree with the burnt toast above though. EDIT: But really, the title is "Which Fallout is the best", I know OP specified in his post but come on ![]() I wasn't backseat moderating, I was just saying I didn't agree with how many people were recommending fo1 and 2 when the OP didn't even ask for that, Toast's last post convinced me though. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On June 14 2012 17:53 Tobberoth wrote: So surprised when I saw the poll, Fallout 1 is obviously the best fallout, no question. As for the new ones, since NV is just a standalone expansion to Fallout 3, I'd say go with both? New Vegas is much, much less of an expansion to Fallout 3 than Fallout 2 is to 1. | ||
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
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mcimba42
192 Posts
On June 15 2012 01:22 bubblegumbo wrote: This thread poll is a tragedy, FO 2 is the best of the series for numerous reasons despite all the bugs. You can even be a pornstar for fucks sake and a boxing champion among other great things. You FO3 generation kids don't know what you are missing. complains about fo3 kids not knowing the real fallout, praises fo2 for the golden globes and other silly shenanigans that's the reason why most people prefer fo1 over 2, you know | ||
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