Which Fallout is the "best" ? - Page 4
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Rob28
Canada705 Posts
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NoxiousNoodles
United Kingdom61 Posts
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
I didn't enjoy Fallout 1 or 2. The games are too slow paced to be enjoyable. | ||
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mcimba42
192 Posts
On June 14 2012 04:42 qotsager wrote: how does fallout 3 not fit the fallout lore? fallout new vegas maybe. masterful bait status: success let me tell you how the meetings for the development of fo3 went, you can trust me on this because i have a cousin who works at bethesda and he told me all about it bethesdaman enters the office to decide on the story of fo3, my cousin is in there working because he comes from a family of hard working and honest men, unlike bethesdaman who is a douchebag so bethesdaman is all like "hey guys we're gonna make this fallout game and all, so let's decide on the story, right? alright, so we need the generic grunt enemies that are, like, everywhere, and the player has to kill a ton of them, so they have to be cool and shit. so i was looking at some fallout stuff for the first time last night and i thought that the super mutant guys would fit pretty well" at this point my cousin, who is very smart and also a honest and hard working man told him "but bethesdaman, the super mutants came from the mariposa military base in the west coast, and when the vault dweller destroyed the base, no more mutants could be created, and they are also sterile, so the once unstoppable mutants are now a very small group that's left over from the era of fo1. they are nowhere near enough to pose any sort of threat" but bethesdaman, while doing some poorly performed pelvic thrusts, just said "balls to that, mutants look rad as hell, can't have fallout without the mutants. let's just make some random vault in the middle of fuck all, and let's say that it has been churning out mutants for a few years, presumably from it's cheap, uncreative asshole." "now that that's dealth with", said bethesdaman, "we need the really bad guys that show up later in the game and are like the most evil and shit. hey, fallout 2 had a really rude dude called the enclave, right?" "it was a whole faction, bethesdaman" said my cousin, who was a honest and hard working man "even better, let's straight up copy+paste that guy from fo2. not just the faction, copy their whole motivation, their goal, and their plan. make them show up with exactly the same mission they had in fo2. no one will ever complain about the game not being faithful to its roots! right, so now we need the good guys. like, the saviors of the wasteland and all. these brotherhood of steel fellows look like they were just made for the job, eh?" my cousin, who was working very hard and also very honestly tried to explain: "but bethesdaman, the brotherhood of steel isn't even "good". they are a group of close minded, xenophobic fanatics who believe that no one but them should have access to technology. they are not saviors of the wasteland at all" but bethesdaman just laughed it off and said "dafuq are you talking about man, they are like paladins of justice or some shit, they're the good guys. i also heard somewhere that fallout is known for its dark humor, so let's get some obnoxiously autistic chick and blow up her face with an atomic bomb. quality humor right there, ain't that right?" "yes bethesdaman you are da police pls remove your scrotum from my face | ||
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TheToast
United States4808 Posts
Bethesda man must be related to Chris Metzen. "Game with an indepth beloved story line and lore? Fuck it all! We need some flashy cutscene clips for the promos, so we'll just build a game around those and shit all over the thing people loved!" | ||
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mastergriggy
United States1312 Posts
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Candadar
2049 Posts
EDIT: But rly. 3 was great and shit, and I loved it at the time. I still do. But NV came out and basically did everything better. | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
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beef42
Denmark1037 Posts
The Bethesda games honestly felt like their standard fantasy fare with a new post-apocalyptic skin. | ||
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Greggle
United States1131 Posts
On June 14 2012 00:09 MentalGNT wrote: I'd say Vegas is the best. It improves upon those aspects that I found Fallout 3 to be weakest in. The faction system is pretty good, and the follower system is much better than in Fallout 3 as well. Also, hardcore mode is awesome. If you don't know what it is, it basically makes the game much more realistic. Ammo has weight and you need food, water and sleep to survive. I'm surprised there was such a positive reception to hardcore mode. There's so much more food and water in the game than you could possibly ever use, there's never any danger of starvation, and iirc you could go hours of real time without sleep. Ammo weight was simply an annoyance more than anything. You could still carry more ammo than you could ever need, just not for the guns you'll never use. Personally I didn't like either that much, but New Vegas was at least slightly better. VATS with Grim Reapers Sprint no longer destroys armies while invulnerable, so that's nice. Also there's more than the meager handful of quests in 3, and less useless perks (though maybe that's because they cut perks to only every other level). I don't know, the nicest things I can say about either game are pretty lukewarm. | ||
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mcimba42
192 Posts
On June 14 2012 06:22 beef42 wrote: My main issue with the Bethesda Fallouts was that their rendition of the world wasn't grimdark and depressing enough. Fallout 1 and 2 had prostitutes, organized crime, police states, slavery, racism, drug abuse, Scientology, child murder and what's worse. The world is supposed to be about a broken US full of selfish assholes stepping all over everyone else. I didn't get that feeling at all from the Bethesda games. The Bethesda games honestly felt like their standard fantasy fare with a new post-apocalyptic skin. this post is severely confusing on various levels first, there was only one fallout game developed by bethesda. second, the original fallout games were goofy as fuck. people complain about fo2 not being serious enough all the time, and even 1 had stuff like herbert and harry. also, protitution, organized crime, slavery, racism and drug abuse are all present in both fo3 and nv. i have no idea how you didn't get that feeling from the "bethesda games" | ||
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Candadar
2049 Posts
On June 14 2012 06:09 Torenhire wrote: Fallout 3 > New Vegas...I liked the style better in fallout three, felt more...post apocalypse than New Vegas did. Plus I live in the DC area and it's very accurate, so it was kinda cool to go to places I know and see them all bombed out and crumbled. :p I feel like the only people who can enjoy Fallout 3's atmosphere are people who know nothing about Fallout's lore. And I mean absolutely fucking nothing. It's been like 250 years since the bombs dropped. People on the West Coast have railroads and are already starting farms and beginning to enter a new industrial period. Why in the actual fuck does the East Coast look like it was nuked 5 days ago in Fallout 3? | ||
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mcimba42
192 Posts
On June 14 2012 08:37 Candadar wrote: I feel like the only people who can enjoy Fallout 3's atmosphere are people who know nothing about Fallout's lore. And I mean absolutely fucking nothing. It's been like 250 years since the bombs dropped. People on the West Coast have railroads and are already starting farms and beginning to enter a new industrial period. Why in the actual fuck does the East Coast look like it was nuked 5 days ago in Fallout 3? because fallout is about da nukes man never mind the fact that fo2 had a city with gardens and lush vegetation and very few actual mutants, fallout is all about da wasteland and da mutants and da green tinted filter | ||
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Candadar
2049 Posts
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mcimba42
192 Posts
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
New Vegas did a really good job at exploring politics and human nature. The writing is also much better than Fallout 3's. Imo, writing has never been Bethesda's strong suit. | ||
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MattyClutch
United States711 Posts
On June 14 2012 00:19 MentalGNT wrote: I have Fallout 1 and 2 lying around somewhere, but I have never managed to play them really. They are so filled with bugs that I could barely manage 10 minutes of playtime before the game crashed T_T I guess it has something to do with Windows 7. Try installing the DOS modes in DOSBox. Generally games from that era actually work better than many many games that came after simply because there is a DOS option. At least that has been my experience. The games are still quite good even if they haven't aged incredibly well. | ||
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djWHEAT
United States925 Posts
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MattyClutch
United States711 Posts
On June 14 2012 09:18 djWHEAT wrote: The answer is "Wastelands" I tried to get into that game so many times. Never could. I can get into some pretty old games, but that one is too much for me. Though I am sure your reply to this (assuming you would grace me with one) would be to suck it up. Much like when I try to get people into something like Planescape Torment. 'Too old what do you mean it is too old? It rocks!' ![]() EDIT: Also enjoy. | ||
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mcimba42
192 Posts
On June 14 2012 09:18 djWHEAT wrote: The answer is "Wastelands" its wasteland | ||
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