EPTDiaz is such a beast, SOOOO glad Fitch got KO'd! Sort of disappointed Brock retired, but I guess I get it.
Dos Santos vs. Overeem is going to be so sick!
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
Diaz is such a beast, SOOOO glad Fitch got KO'd! Sort of disappointed Brock retired, but I guess I get it. Dos Santos vs. Overeem is going to be so sick! | ||
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Synwave
United States2803 Posts
On December 31 2011 15:01 Diamond wrote: Just got back from the bar, what a sick night of fights! Diaz is such a beast, SOOOO glad Fitch got KO'd! Sort of disappointed Brock retired, but I guess I get it. Dos Santos vs. Overeem is going to be so sick! Agreed, again I am stuck on betting. FML | ||
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Sceptor87
Canada266 Posts
And I know. I do hope he takes care of his family though. He seems to care about them more than anything else and maybe it was the right choice. It's just the frame of mind that gets me. He was probably already defeated before he got in the cage. | ||
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Synwave
United States2803 Posts
On December 31 2011 15:04 Sceptor87 wrote: Kinda have to agree with Huk about his retiring. If you go into anything in the wrong frame of mind where you're thinking that if you lose it's over then you've already lost half the battle. There's a mental side and a physical side to everything, especially athletic. And there have been good people that go into a fight already defeated before it starts. Should they retire before putting themselves in further harm and danger, like Chuck Liddell? Yes. But everything should be approached as if it's just another step unlike it's the final step. And I know. I do hope he takes care of his family though. He seems to care about them more than anything else and maybe it was the right choice. It's just the frame of mind that gets me. He was probably already defeated before he got in the cage. Because obviously you know...a lot about his family. | ||
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unknown.sam
Philippines2701 Posts
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dogabutila
United States1437 Posts
Then, take the illness and surgery he had....it honestly takes way longer to recover from that stuff then he took. Throw him in there with somebody as credentialed as 'reem and thats basically throwing him to the sharks. Brock did pretty good all things considered, but I agree it was time for him to get out of the UFC. | ||
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Andrew2658
United States356 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Check it out before it gets pulled. | ||
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luckybeni2
Germany1065 Posts
On December 31 2011 15:06 unknown.sam wrote: there's goes the ufc's cash cow. sad to see brock lose, but at least he stayed true to himself in that he realized he wasn't really going to really challenge for the title. The super fast title shot was a 2 edged sword for the UFC. He got up there so fast and always had to fight really good guys and after the Carwin and Cain fight it was pretty clear that he would not really stay a top 5 guy for long. But they had to feed him strong opponents because of his status. Now his last 3 fights looked really bad (he did get the win on Carwin but Carwin beat himself) and there is nothing to gain for him in taking another fight. | ||
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hugedong
United States510 Posts
dream is on right now http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight_For_Japan:_Genki_Desu_Ka_Omisoka_2011 | ||
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inamorato
United States263 Posts
On December 31 2011 14:46 HuK wrote: ok how about when you can beat some1 in wrestling 1/2 your size you can come back and talk to me about fighting Beat someone in wrestling half your size? I'm assuming this is a personal reference, because anyone with actual wrestling experience knows that 10 or 15 pounds is enough to tip the scale, especially if you're wrestling someone with the same or better skills and techniques. The bottom line is Lesnar never truly had a career in MMA. He is 2-1, which by my standards doesn't convey a consistent or good fighter. He isn't clean, technical, and he struggles to show athleticism. For being a Collegiate D1 Heavyweight National Champion and a multiple All American wrestler he doesn't show it. If you look at his tapes from 2000 you can see that he was a lot more coordinated. It is the same scenario as the Wanderlei, you put on all that weight, the years pile on and you lose all your grace. The way Velasquez humiliated Lesnar he should have considered retirement at that junction because he would have saved himself the humiliation. If you want to truly bring a wrestler into UFC or any type of MMA and say HERE is what a wrestler can do (Same concept as Boxing, they bring in Old Head James Toney or other washed up bums to get humiliated) bring in someone of Cael Sanderson's caliber in their prime. | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Did not expect that KO. The way the head bounced when it hit the canvas, the ref just has to stop the fight. | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Gotta give Lesnar praise. That's a hardworking warrior right there. Props to him. | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On December 31 2011 14:42 HuK wrote: yea but he walked into the fight with that mindset, at least think it over after wards and decide how well you can do and whether or not you could improve. dont go into the fight thinking "well if i lose im too tired and ill just quit " No this is not true. Brock knew if this was his last fight he would give it his all. He trained very hard for this fight, no doubt about it. If he didn't win there isn't a point to continue at 35 years old. He won't stick around if he knows he can't win. He was just completely outclassed by overeem. Overeem had too many offensive weapons to use against Lesnar. | ||
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Sceptor87
Canada266 Posts
On December 31 2011 15:06 Synwave wrote: Because obviously you know...a lot about his family. Well he retired for them, obviously he cares about them. Any REAL man would care about their family, you nitwit. You're being a real Negative Nancy. A major Debby Downer. What's wrong? I'm listening. Well actually I'm not, I just want you to shut up and turn that frown upside-down. Thanks. | ||
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wurm
Philippines2296 Posts
On December 31 2011 16:07 Tien wrote: No this is not true. Brock knew if this was his last fight he would give it his all. He trained very hard for this fight, no doubt about it. If he didn't win there isn't a point to continue at 35 years old. He won't stick around if he knows he can't win. He was just completely outclassed by overeem. Overeem had too many offensive weapons to use against Lesnar. Yeah, I think he wanted that title shot. He just couldn't protect himself from the assault to the body that Alistair gave him. | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
On December 31 2011 16:07 Tien wrote: No this is not true. Brock knew if this was his last fight he would give it his all. He trained very hard for this fight, no doubt about it. If he didn't win there isn't a point to continue at 35 years old. He won't stick around if he knows he can't win. He was just completely outclassed by overeem. Overeem had too many offensive weapons to use against Lesnar. Brock gets 400,000 to show, 400,000 to win and i think it's 6% of PPV sales, he makes over 2,000,000 a fight, that is not including the millions he's getting from indorsements ethier. He never cared about fighting in the UFC it was another paycheque for him. Just like his stunt in the WWE, just like his football carear and just like his future carear of w/e he gets into. The man is trolling us all! He was HAND FED opponents to get his name big so that the UFC could capitilize on 1) his size and 2) his fame from the WWE. I'm glad the guy that used to be ranked #1 just because the UFC forced it down people's throats is gone and the dignity of the sport can come back. | ||
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Trizz
Netherlands1318 Posts
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On December 31 2011 14:46 HuK wrote: ok how about when you can beat some1 in wrestling 1/2 your size you can come back and talk to me about fighting wow that went from civil disagreement to irrelevant outburst in no time at all. Unless I'm mistaken, you guys were talking about career choices and not how well you guys personally can fight. I don't see how his fighting ability has anything to do with the discussion at hand | ||
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matiK23
United States963 Posts
On December 31 2011 16:24 Trizz wrote: Did anyone happen to catch that Gina dancing gif? Omg insta-hard on when I saw that. Nate was a standup champ tonight. Too bad his legs are toothpicks. | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On December 31 2011 16:19 Talack wrote: Brock gets 400,000 to show, 400,000 to win and i think it's 6% of PPV sales, he makes over 2,000,000 a fight, that is not including the millions he's getting from indorsements ethier. He never cared about fighting in the UFC it was another paycheque for him. Just like his stunt in the WWE, just like his football carear and just like his future carear of w/e he gets into. The man is trolling us all! He was HAND FED opponents to get his name big so that the UFC could capitilize on 1) his size and 2) his fame from the WWE. I'm glad the guy that used to be ranked #1 just because the UFC forced it down people's throats is gone and the dignity of the sport can come back. Obvious troll is obvious. You can't achieve what Brock has achieved by not caring. As much as I don't like Brock, I won't disrespect him. The man gave it his all and I respect him for that. | ||
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