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On June 05 2013 18:30 unkkz wrote:
Is there anything sniper-esque in this game? Downloading it now since i played Mech Commander way back and that game was freaking awesome, totally underrated game and Microsoft botched the sequel tremendously so they just axed it's development afaik since it looked laughably bad

Also Mech Commander had a medium - long range laser type thing that was blue-white and had infinite ammo - any idea what it was called? That shit ruled.

On June 07 2013 02:04 Yoav wrote:


That was a PPC (Particle Projector Cannon). The long range version is an ER PPC (Extended Range). Protip: in MWO, the PPC does less damage below 90m (linear dropoff to 0 at 0) but the ER PPC does full damage all the way out to 810m.

All energy weapons in the game do max damage between 0 and [listed range] meters, then drop off linearly to do 0 damage at 2x[listed range].

All ballistic weapons are the same, but only drop off to 0 at 3x listed range (giving them better range per listed number, though they compensate with lower acuracy).

Missile weapons just blow up at listed max range, doing no damage. LRMs have a 180m arming range.

#themoreyouknow

PS:
MechCommander was a beastly game. It made me so sad to play MC2 because of how dumbed down it was... and then even sadder to realize that the reviews were happy it was so much easier. MechCommander remains my personal favorite game of all time. I still play it on an emulated '98 I'm running on my mac.

On June 07 2013 06:56 Meatloaf wrote:


so many thanks , didnt know of this!

the game needs a tutorial so badly to clarify a lot of things , and the community war thing they have planned looks good but also seems to be far far away from where the game is now unfortunately.

On June 07 2013 15:14 daemir wrote:
Original Mechcommander was a beast of a game, I still have discs for it.

And screw the Uller, you either capped the early MadCat with the ER-PPCs or bust! Those PPCs were more the prize than the chassis, sick weapons.


e: seems they imprioved the game alot since I played last, having a blast at it.

On June 08 2013 03:02 Yoav wrote:


And only 2 Mad Cats in the whole game. I replayed those two missions a lot, particularly when I figured out how to get at the Mad Cat early on in each (bridge rush and drone, respectively).

But given the lack of a good tutorial yet--the devs say its on the way-- I thought I might add a little information to the public knowledge here on...

Critical Hits

In MechWarrior, MechCommander, or the board game version, Battletech, critical hits are one of the most important systems to understand. It is also one of the most misunderstood. This is how the MWO version works.

See those "slots" in the 'mechlab? Every Arm and Torso segment has 12, and every Head and Leg has 6, no matter what the 'mech is (a Commando at 25 tons and an Atlas at 100 have the same number of slots).

Some of those are filled by "built-in" equipment like engines, gyros, the cockpit, various actuators (joints). As of right now, these cannot take critical damage. This may change later on. The "dynamic slots" added by Endo or Ferro (never get Ferro before Endo) cannot take critical hits, and never will. CASE ammo storage cannot take critical damage.

Everything else on your 'mech can take critical damage: heat sinks, weapons, electronics, ammunition.

Your 'mech is protected by armor plating and internal structure. On your 'mech doll in the HUD, internal structure is the filling, and the armor is the shell. Critical hits cannot currently go through armor, so a mech segment (a component) is safe from critical hits while armored.

However, when the armor is stripped off a component on your 'mech, the items inside become vulnerable. Luckily, most shots won't do any critical damage; they'll just hurt your internal structure and increase the chance of that component being destroyed. However, 42% of shots will do damage to both your internal structure and some items in the component. The amount of damage dealt is based on weapon damage, according to the below:
58% of the time, no critical damage.
25% chance 1x weapon damage, dealt to a random available critical slot in the component.
14% chance 2x weapon damage, dealt in packets like the above to 2 random available critical slots (can be the same one)
3% chance 3x weapon damage.

A few special weapons deal extra critical damage. Break these out against exposed internals. They are the Machine Gun, Flamer, and LB 10-X AC. Be aware that the MG and Flamer are underpowered due to being essentially only good at this. Debate exists on the LBX (shotgun autocannon).
Special critical values
33% 0 crits
33% 1 crit
28% 2 crits
6% 3 crits

Most items have 10 HP, and will be destroyed upon accumulating 10 damage. Gauss Rifles and ECMs are particularly fragile. AC/20s are particularly durable... but this is offset by their large slot count, meaning they are likely to take crit hits.

Destroyed items do not work, and ammo bins have a 10% chance of detonation on being destroyed, leading to a happy pop-pop-pop that will shell the poor 'mech unless the explosion is vented by a CASE system. CASE will not protect the side torso it is in, but will prevent the damage from going on to kill the center torso. Damage will naturally progress toward the center of a 'mech, from Arm or Leg to Side Torso to Center Torso. Passing each barrier reduces damage by 50%.

Gauss Rifles also have a 90% chance of detonation, and do 20 damage. Gauss Rifle ammo itself is inert. When a component with a Gauss Rifle or Ammo Bin are destroyed (regularly, not critical damage) they still have the same chance to go up in smoke. Crits just make it happen earlier.

Implications of Critical Hit System
Scoring Critical Hits
Your best bet to score good critical hits is just to hammer weakened body parts. Anything packing a Gauss Rifle is a juicy target. LBXs are good at this, but so are any weapon with a high enough damage value that a single crit will destroy a component. These include PPCs, AC10s, Gauss Rifles, and AC/20s.

Defending against Critical Hits
Don't get shot. Also, "crit pad."

Crit Padding is when you make use of the "damage is dealt to a random hittable location" mechanic. If you have a Gauss Rifle as the only thing in a component, when the component takes a single AC/10 hit, you have a 38% chance of having a real bad day. If, however, you throw in a Double Heat sink and 2 tons of Gauss Ammo, you have a little more than half that chance. Whenever you have something explosive in a segment, try not to leave any empty slots there. And if you use Gauss, you really should use CASE.

On June 08 2013 08:25 SamsungStar wrote:
20 armor can take 20 points of damage. After that the component is exposed and can be destroyed. If I remember correctly a med laser does 5 pts of dmg if the beam paints the same area the entire time.

On June 08 2013 18:31 daemir wrote:
Yea I wanna play with someone when I'm online, this solo play gets really tiring when team just goes derp out of no reason. I'm Erish ingame.

On June 08 2013 09:05 Redox wrote:

Also important to note, the hitpoints of a component are always 50% of the maximum armor of this component. For example the head (cockpit) has a maximum armor of 18, so the structure beneath the armor has 9 hitpoints. So altogether you need to do 27 damage to a head to destroy it.

On June 08 2013 18:49 Meatloaf wrote:


I'll add you m8 , playing solo gets boring sometimes but the Cbills rising make up a little for it lol.

Edit: is there ppl playing on TL teamspeak?

On June 09 2013 04:23 Yoav wrote:


It would be really cool if there ended up being a TL merc unit. I'm a Davion all the way, but I'd be tempted to join a TL unit.

On June 11 2013 05:23 daemir wrote:
Is there any form of balancing or matchmaking in the game? Like, tonnage wise or something...feels really dumb to be dropped into a random map in a random game mode and have it be assault where my team has like 3 lights and enemy team is all 65 tons and up. In a "kill all" game type. W T F.