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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 00:37:35
May 14 2012 00:35 GMT
#1901
Exactly, but that is the underlying principle is cheating your mind to think your defeat was better than it actually was. You are looking for validation of your teams defeat.

In other news, Phoenix ties it up in the 1st. 1-1!
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 14 2012 00:42 GMT
#1902
Bad bad goal by Quick. Terrible way to repay your teams dominating performance
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 01:40:49
May 14 2012 01:01 GMT
#1903
On May 14 2012 09:17 StarStruck wrote:
Flik,

I'm going to ignore your debate and strawman's with Jimmy for a moment and address the problem with your logic. It's a common fallacy.

What you are implying is this:

Polt beats Stephano in a bo7.
Polt beats MVP in a bo7.
Stephano probably > than MVP.

Or to simplify... Polt>Stephano>MVP. It's common practice on these forums and it couldn't be further from the truth.

You are trying legitimize the loss when the reality is if they didn't fall to so-and-so, they probably would have fallen to another team on the way.

Lets not deal with what ifs, but absolutes.


strawman.. absolutes....fallacy.... wow man i'm learning all kinds of new words.

The Canadiens came a lot closer to defeating the Bruins last year than the Canucks did.
The Canucks have easily been one of the top 8 teams in the NHL the past 3 years.
Unfortunately, they won't engrave the Sedins' names on the holy grail of hockey for doing that.
Maybe in sweden they hand out awards for being top 8.
i think its called the Borje Salming Memorial Award.

On May 14 2012 08:51 Flik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 08:42 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Chicago chewed em up and spit em out.
LA v. Vancouver was 5 games.

Boston outscored Vancouver 23-8.
Vancouver got devoured
When your team scores 8 goals in 7 games its had the snot kicked out of it.


Clearly you have no idea how any of the series were played out. All you can say is "Chicago chewed em up and spit em out". Real knowledgeable.


lolz.. how many times did Luongo get pulled in the Chicago series?
Dustin plopped his ass in front of the net and no one could move him.
The Canucks made him look like the 21st century version of Phil Esposito and at that point he had something like 40 career goals
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Flik
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada256 Posts
May 14 2012 02:34 GMT
#1904
Luo got pulled twice in the Chicago series. That was a high scoring roller coaster of a series though. Yes you're right the Canucks had no answer to Byufglien but it wasn't just him that was killing them. It was more Kane and Toews. The Canucks blue line was also pretty battered that series and played pretty poorly. Oh and like usual when the Nucks lose a series their special teams shit the bed. We lost in 6 games and we were outplayed. The Hawks were pretty damn good that year though, I would say the Nucks gave them the best series of all the teams they had to play to win the cup. By no means did they chew them up and spit them out.

I dont understand where you're getting at with Boston. 3 teams took them to game 7, any of the teams could have beat them. They were the better team on the day that it mattered.

Also Byufglien was an all star the last 2 years and has been playing really well for the Thrashers/Jets. He's a good player.

So you're a Habs fan eh? You just mad that you and the Flames are battling for the worst team in Canada right now?
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 02:51:34
May 14 2012 02:51 GMT
#1905
On May 14 2012 09:42 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Bad bad goal by Quick. Terrible way to repay your teams dominating performance


I say he repaid it tenfold in the 3rd
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 03:46:46
May 14 2012 03:45 GMT
#1906
LA is 9-1 so far...
the best 16 win Stanley Cup run is the 1988 Oilers... 16-2.

On May 14 2012 11:34 Flik wrote:
Also Byufglien was an all star the last 2 years and has been playing really well for the Thrashers/Jets. He's a good player.
So you're a Habs fan eh? You just mad that you and the Flames are battling for the worst team in Canada right now?

i just like to watch hockey.. i'm not a canadiens fan.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
May 14 2012 04:51 GMT
#1907
I cannot believe people are talking about Dustin Brown as the MVP on the Kings. Just. do people not understand how hockey works? Quick stands on his head = LA wins. Quick has a bad game = LA loses. That is all.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
May 14 2012 04:59 GMT
#1908
Yay the Conference finals have started!

The Kings might have an appearance in the finals this year.

Poll: Rangers or Devils

Rangers (9)
 
64%

Devils (5)
 
36%

14 total votes

Your vote: Rangers or Devils

(Vote): Rangers
(Vote): Devils



Poll: Coyotes or Kings

Kings (7)
 
70%

Coyotes (3)
 
30%

10 total votes

Your vote: Coyotes or Kings

(Vote): Coyotes
(Vote): Kings

Brood War forever!
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32058 Posts
May 14 2012 14:49 GMT
#1909
Rangers - Kings, all day urry day

I'm probably going to game 3 on sat and it's gonna cost me in the neighborhood of $250. Sweet.
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 14 2012 14:52 GMT
#1910
Wearin my Kings sweater at work. And it is AWESOME.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4009 Posts
May 14 2012 18:57 GMT
#1911
On May 13 2012 22:12 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Hunter's contract with the Capitals ends now.
He might just go back to London. He has a great situation in London if he wants to go back to it.
Basically, he was head coach and god there.


... and he's gone
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=631654

Hunter informed general manager George McPhee of his decision Monday morning, just hours before the team met for the final time this season. According to McPhee, Hunter wanted to spend more time with his family and return to London, Ont., to help run the family business, the London Knights.

You are probably a close member of the family too, Jimmy
Drone is a way of living
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 21:38:31
May 14 2012 19:29 GMT
#1912
On May 15 2012 03:57 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 22:12 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Hunter's contract with the Capitals ends now.
He might just go back to London. He has a great situation in London if he wants to go back to it.
Basically, he was head coach and god there.


... and he's gone
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=631654

Hunter informed general manager George McPhee of his decision Monday morning, just hours before the team met for the final time this season. According to McPhee, Hunter wanted to spend more time with his family and return to London, Ont., to help run the family business, the London Knights.

You are probably a close member of the family too, Jimmy


Theres a couple of us that predicted that one:

On May 13 2012 11:57 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 11:03 Sub40APM wrote:
Dale Hunter, awful. Just awful coach.


Agreed. Personally, I don't see him back in Washington next year for one reason or another.


It sure didn't take long either. I dont follow the NHL well enough to know who is out there, so anybody here have any bets on the next coach for the Caps? I wonder if GMGM will hire someone with NHL coaching experience this time or if he will keep going outside the proverbial box.

I highly doubt GMGM gets fired, so I believe he will be the one making the coaching pick.

Also on Caps news, it appears that its now official that last year's draft pick is going to stay in the KHL for another 2 years. I heard he has actually signed the contract now.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 14 2012 21:00 GMT
#1913
More reason for Edmonton to draft Murray instead of Yakopov. I don't care that Yakopov is playing in NA right now, hes Russian and they are always a risk to go play for bigger money in the KHL.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 21:20:36
May 14 2012 21:19 GMT
#1914
http://reason.com/blog/2012/05/10/broke-arizona-town-wastes-nearly-10-of-i

http://reason.com/blog/2011/04/11/john-mccain-corporate-welfare

after phoenix gets knocked out the finger-pointing in glendale this summer will be comical

this money pit just won't go away!
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
May 14 2012 22:00 GMT
#1915
well, Caps fans should breath a sigh of relief. Gotta give credit where credit is due with Hunter, he recognized the only reason he accomplished anything in the playoffs was Holtby and probably knew that over an 82 game season Holtby would falter. Now lets hope the Caps are smart enough not to hire some other NHL washout.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 01:41:02
May 15 2012 01:39 GMT
#1916
On May 15 2012 07:00 Sub40APM wrote:
well, Caps fans should breath a sigh of relief. Gotta give credit where credit is due with Hunter, he recognized the only reason he accomplished anything in the playoffs was Holtby and probably knew that over an 82 game season Holtby would falter. Now lets hope the Caps are smart enough not to hire some other NHL washout.


The above is probably a troll post... but here goes any way.

Hunter has built the London Knights into a dynasty and a money making machine taking it from the scrap heap.
the Capitals won't make it to game 7 of the final 8 next year.

Part of the reason Holtby looked good is the work of the players around him. If Ovechkin is allowed to run around like a chicken with his head cut off for 25 minutes a game look for the same old Capitals to emerge next year. Players will be unwilling to "pay the price" unless the kind of atmosphere Hunter created is maintained by the incoming coach.

Hunter is leaving because he will make 10X as much money owning, running, and coaching Knights as he would as an NHL coach.
The Knights were in very bad shape when Hunter bought the team. The original owner died and his son screwed the team into the ground.
Wake up dude.



Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
May 15 2012 02:04 GMT
#1917
On May 15 2012 10:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 07:00 Sub40APM wrote:
well, Caps fans should breath a sigh of relief. Gotta give credit where credit is due with Hunter, he recognized the only reason he accomplished anything in the playoffs was Holtby and probably knew that over an 82 game season Holtby would falter. Now lets hope the Caps are smart enough not to hire some other NHL washout.


The above is probably a troll post... but here goes any way.

Hunter has built the London Knights into a dynasty and a money making machine taking it from the scrap heap.
the Capitals won't make it to game 7 of the final 8 next year.

Part of the reason Holtby looked good is the work of the players around him. If Ovechkin is allowed to run around like a chicken with his head cut off for 25 minutes a game look for the same old Capitals to emerge next year. Players will be unwilling to "pay the price" unless the kind of atmosphere Hunter created is maintained by the incoming coach.

Hunter is leaving because he will make 10X as much money owning, running, and coaching Knights as he would as an NHL coach.
The Knights were in very bad shape when Hunter bought the team. The original owner died and his son screwed the team into the ground.
Wake up dude.





Second round, game 7. You know when else they made it? Under Bodreau's much more open and fluid system where they pushed the soon-to-be-Stanley Cup champs to the brink. And then they made it into the second round under a much more defensive system instilled by Bodreau because he realized the new NHL is back to trap hockey. So what? Hunter got lucky because his stupid system looks smart when a goalie has a 930, sub 2 GAA. It looks stupid whenever his goalie has a night off. And for all that 'blocking' shots talk, look at the shots against. The caps were peppered by the Rangers. If Holtby plays out of his mind like that under any coach, the Capitals will get to the same spot they got to now.

He is leaving because he knows he was lucky, because he doesnt bring anything to the NHL level and because he likes bossing kids around while making money.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
May 15 2012 03:53 GMT
#1918
On May 15 2012 11:04 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 10:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On May 15 2012 07:00 Sub40APM wrote:
well, Caps fans should breath a sigh of relief. Gotta give credit where credit is due with Hunter, he recognized the only reason he accomplished anything in the playoffs was Holtby and probably knew that over an 82 game season Holtby would falter. Now lets hope the Caps are smart enough not to hire some other NHL washout.


The above is probably a troll post... but here goes any way.

Hunter has built the London Knights into a dynasty and a money making machine taking it from the scrap heap.
the Capitals won't make it to game 7 of the final 8 next year.

Part of the reason Holtby looked good is the work of the players around him. If Ovechkin is allowed to run around like a chicken with his head cut off for 25 minutes a game look for the same old Capitals to emerge next year. Players will be unwilling to "pay the price" unless the kind of atmosphere Hunter created is maintained by the incoming coach.

Hunter is leaving because he will make 10X as much money owning, running, and coaching Knights as he would as an NHL coach.
The Knights were in very bad shape when Hunter bought the team. The original owner died and his son screwed the team into the ground.
Wake up dude.





Second round, game 7. You know when else they made it? Under Bodreau's much more open and fluid system where they pushed the soon-to-be-Stanley Cup champs to the brink. And then they made it into the second round under a much more defensive system instilled by Bodreau because he realized the new NHL is back to trap hockey. So what? Hunter got lucky because his stupid system looks smart when a goalie has a 930, sub 2 GAA. It looks stupid whenever his goalie has a night off. And for all that 'blocking' shots talk, look at the shots against. The caps were peppered by the Rangers. If Holtby plays out of his mind like that under any coach, the Capitals will get to the same spot they got to now.

He is leaving because he knows he was lucky, because he doesnt bring anything to the NHL level and because he likes bossing kids around while making money.

it is clear u know zero about what he has done in london.

When is the last time Washington went farther than game 7 of the final 8? 1999?

Developing a new goalie is never "luck". Just ask the Leafs. Hunter knows how to develop young players including Holtby.
Washington did nothing in the 2 years preceding Hunter and won't do anything after him as long as Ovechkin is on the team as Captain and de Facto "leader".

The Rangers and Bruins are two very good teams and going 7-7 in the playoffs against them is not "luck".
George Mcphee said it all.

the way the game is being officiated in 2012 the "open fluid" system does not work.. The dead puck era is back.
Take a look at the final 4.

guys like Pat Quinn, Scotty Bowman, and John Torterella make sure they always have full control of their superstar players because it forces all others to fall in line.
This is all Hunter was doing with Ovechkin.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-15 04:30:53
May 15 2012 04:02 GMT
#1919
Quick question, how did Hunter develop a goalie he only brought up due to the fact his two starting goalies got injured? Maybe Hunter is really good at grooming young talent, but to give him credit for grooming Holtby is a joke (as it appears you are implying). He brought up a young goalie, who caught fire, and then rode the hot hand in the playoffs. Standard hockey 101, absolutely nothing new there.

Also, lets not get ahead of ourselves. We have zero idea who the next Caps coach will be. To say whoever they hire will do nothing is simply ridiculous. No one knows how Ovie (or any other Cap for that matter) will respond to the new coach, unless your goal is to be the TL version of Don Cherry (in which case you need to start wearing bright clown suits and post photo evidence).

What the GMGM needs to figure out is what kind of team he wants. Depending on which direction he wants to go with this new coach will dictate what kind of personnel changes need to occur on the team.
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4009 Posts
May 15 2012 07:24 GMT
#1920
at least its official now that Semin is leaving the team. Thank God. Ovechkin at least can hit (and most of the times legally), while this piece of shit is like a swan on the ice.
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