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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32113 Posts
April 18 2012 13:52 GMT
#1481
So Torres is a huge piece of shit, huh??
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turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
April 18 2012 14:06 GMT
#1482
Biggest piece of shit in the league, I'd say.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32113 Posts
April 18 2012 14:20 GMT
#1483
That title still belongs to Matt Cooke. One year without murdering someone doesn't wipe away a career of being a shitheel

fyi, if you guys didn't see what shithead Raffi Torres did, he basically lept up into Hossa's face and knocked him out cold

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Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 15:36:38
April 18 2012 15:34 GMT
#1484
On April 18 2012 22:36 Flaccid wrote:
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On April 18 2012 12:10 Kralic wrote:
If you don't like the fighting don't watch the NHL, there are various alternatives to hockey leagues you can follow. It is part of the game, and a part of how a lot of people grew up watching it.


You can't compare the fighting in today's game with the fighting in the game that 'people grew up with'. Fighting in the 80s was a useful tool for protecting skilled players from being targeted. You want to run Gretzky? Cool, but that means Semenko is going to be collecting your teeth. It was a deterrent to some of the tangential crap that has no business in the game other than to spoil it.

The same cannot be said for today's version of fighting. Because of the way the rules work, fighting no longer works as a deterrent because you can't take an instigator penalty. So fighting servers no useful purpose - it's just a distraction. The only guys doing it on a regular basis are useless hockey players who have no other contributing skill other than the ability to wrestle with an equally useless hockey player for a few minutes before falling to the ice. It accomplishes nothing. If fighting had a purpose, a guy like Matt Cooke would be getting beat up a lot more.

It's funny that we're talking about this on a StarCraft website given that people are always talking about "growing ESPORTS" or "ruining ESPORTS." I'm a guy who is interested in growing the game of hockey and I worry about how all of this unprofessional conduct makes the sport look to its potential audience. If I didn't grow up with it, it'd look like a joke to me. You don't see this shit in anything else that dares call itself professional. At the very least, they should do what the WWE did and brand it as an 'entertainment' sport as to stop the confusion =P.

How many people here find that the most entertaining hockey played each year is the IIHF U20 tournament after Christmas? When you watch it, how much time do you spend missing fighting?


Yeah, I agree with you on the fact the fighting has changed, it is based around a lot of lousy players, but you still get fights like back then from time to time. When Todd Bertuzi dropped the gloves with Shae Weber that was an old time fight in defending one of your star players and sending a message for the entire series(after that the series has been pretty much calm in regards to dirtyness).

The TSN World Juniors are not that popular anywhere else other than Canada because of TSN hyping the shit out of it and going wow Canada rocks after we clobber lesser teams by a large margin and then lose in the playoff round because the other teams that made it are just as good. The WJC for Canadians is a we must win it or else our team was a huge dissapointment(good way to showcase the sport to the world)

Branding the NHL as entertainment instead of a sport is a slap in the face of the players who are skilled at the game and I guess every injury and cheap shot is fake, just like in the WWE(I hope you don't think it is real that would be sad). Like I said earlier if you don't like it watch another league, there are plenty out there. The NHL is way bigger then it was back in the 70's, 80's and early 90's. Something with it's current system is helping it grow, like it or not you cannot deny it is getting more viewers every year & these playoffs as dirty as they are, are attracting more viewers.
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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8866 Posts
April 18 2012 16:38 GMT
#1485
On April 18 2012 22:52 Hawk wrote:
So Torres is a huge piece of shit, huh??


Quite huge. I think I hated him even more when he played for my team simply because he made me feel embarrassed to be a fan. Vicious head-hunting every time he's on the ice. Didn't he call it a "hockey play" or something? Awesome.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32113 Posts
April 18 2012 16:50 GMT
#1486
Sure did! There was a puck on the ice, and it was moving at the time. HOCKEY PLAY!
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turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 17:13:25
April 18 2012 17:11 GMT
#1487
Eh, I don't know how much I agree with your assessment of Cooke, but maybe it's just because I've seen every game he's played this year. I can't really put up an argument against it, though. I still don't want him on my team, even though this I do believe this would be his most productive year since the Pens have signed him.

EDIT: Yeah, 7 points higher than any previous total he's had with them. 44 PIMS versus a previous low of 101. It's too bad Kunitz started taking retard city penalties when he stopped, though.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 17:18:47
April 18 2012 17:17 GMT
#1488
Yeah, Torres was just finishing his check, I mean it happened so quick and the puck was indeed on the ice.

I think this time the hammer might fall though, it is a classic case of, a star getting hurt and with Bettman in the crowd, they might toss the key away on Torres which wouldn't be a bad thing.

In regards to Cooke, fuck him too.
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This picture makes so many people mad haha.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32113 Posts
April 18 2012 17:19 GMT
#1489
Cooke is still a piece of shit who has ended one career and attempted to elbow several others into retirement. He's a dickbag and always will be one, kind of like Claude Lemeuix

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turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
April 18 2012 17:29 GMT
#1490
Like I said, I can't really argue against it, his actions on the ice certainly support your thoughts. He's been an active member of the community and still runs a non-profit in Vancouver with his wife. I've met him a couple of times and he was always the first guy out to see the kids and give them pucks and stuff. He seems like a genuinely nice dude off the ice. Either that or he's great at putting on a show for the public.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 18 2012 17:29 GMT
#1491
On April 18 2012 23:20 Hawk wrote:
That title still belongs to Matt Cooke. One year without murdering someone doesn't wipe away a career of being a shitheel

fyi, if you guys didn't see what shithead Raffi Torres did, he basically lept up into Hossa's face and knocked him out cold

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU4F6QQHVNs


Yeah, I've thought Cooke was scum since he came into the league in like 2002 with the Nucks. He just a chickenshit that runs around throwing cheapshots. The league was kind of blind to his shenanigans for the most part till he went to the eastern conference though.

Sure he has played clean this year, but I've seen him ruin too many careers/seasons over the last ten. I remember watching George Laraque (back when he was more of a nutbar) chasing him around Northlands before he was finally able to get to the bench after cheapshotting a young Jarret Stoll before the lockout.

And yeah, Torres is scum too. Can't really play the game, only runs around throwing late hits because he is too slow to actually catch someone normally. He's admitted to it before too: "If I don't make that hit I'm not in this league." I know son, you only here because you willing to run around throwing cheapshots. Its kind of a shame too, he had so much potential at one point in time...

Maybe if he spent more of his time being a professional and trying to get better and less time doing drugs in the edmonton bar scene he'd have been a guy that people tried to target and not the other way around.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17231 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 18:17:45
April 18 2012 17:49 GMT
#1492
a big long playoff run by the Phoenix Coyotes makes the team more sell-able in Arizona.
the NHL owns the Phoenix Coyotes and wants to get "expansion fees" from prospective new cities rather than moving existing teams.

any decision taken against a reckless Coyotes player will be tainted by a conflict of interest.


On April 18 2012 12:14 StarStruck wrote:
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On April 18 2012 12:06 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On April 18 2012 11:48 StarStruck wrote:
Oh give me a break. Fighting has always been apart of the game.

Embarassed? Yet you cannot get enough of it and keep watching and you crave it. Violence is hotwired in our heads. The refs have already stepped up by making a lot of calls early on in the games to let them know they'll get penalized. Shannie is doing all he can do. It's nothing more than a glorified title that Colin Campbell knows all to well. He just handed out Asham 5 games and Neal 1 game for the charge. There's not much else he can do.

When your adrenaline is running that high and the crowd is responding to everything on the ice. It's only going to rally the players up more.

No jokes here just hard fought battles.


Fighting is only part of the NHL's game, not the rest of the world's game, and give me one good reason that it should be a legitimate part of the game besides "It makes money". That has and always will be a force that degrades and devalues any and every type of art/sport.

How the heck you think Canadians play the game and why other countries look to our model and systems? It's a winning formula.


their success level is not in line with the population and amount of resources Canadians dedicate to hockey.
because of all the anarchy and mayhem in the CHL , AHL and NHL... Canada produces the best referees and linesmen by a wide margin.

really the best model is no model.
the best model is to just go out onto the river in the winter and play with no adults around.
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Quenchiest
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada286 Posts
April 18 2012 18:00 GMT
#1493
Welp, Torres out indefinitely until hearing scheduled for Friday. Was to be today but him and the NHLPA had it pushed to Friday.

Wonder if the Hawks will rally like they did last season when Torres flattened Seabrook. Came within one big Luongo save of ousting Vancouver in the first round last season after that hit.
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8866 Posts
April 18 2012 18:31 GMT
#1494
On April 19 2012 02:19 Hawk wrote:
Cooke is still a piece of shit who has ended one career and attempted to elbow several others into retirement. He's a dickbag and always will be one, kind of like Claude Lemeuix

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omg is that a rolling Kesler in the aftermath or someone else?
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
April 18 2012 18:47 GMT
#1495
On April 19 2012 03:31 Flaccid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 02:19 Hawk wrote:
Cooke is still a piece of shit who has ended one career and attempted to elbow several others into retirement. He's a dickbag and always will be one, kind of like Claude Lemeuix

[image loading]


omg is that a rolling Kesler in the aftermath or someone else?



Hahahaha. I didn't even notice that. That's great.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
April 18 2012 18:47 GMT
#1496
Hahahaha it is I didn't notice that at first.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32113 Posts
April 18 2012 19:37 GMT
#1497
http://vansunsportsblogs.com/2012/04/18/the-six-best-ryan-kesler-tumbleweed-gifs/

!!
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BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
April 18 2012 20:21 GMT
#1498
On April 19 2012 04:37 Hawk wrote:
http://vansunsportsblogs.com/2012/04/18/the-six-best-ryan-kesler-tumbleweed-gifs/

!!


All these Kesler gifs are gold so far.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
April 18 2012 20:23 GMT
#1499
I am pretty sure most of TL is waiting for the Canucks to lose tonight to further their hate for them. I only got one thing to say.

This is a video posted last year just before the finals but I love it and wanted to share with everyone. Canucks in SEVEN!

QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32113 Posts
April 18 2012 20:46 GMT
#1500
Yeah, I too give the game about seven minutes before they mentally fold
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