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On March 21 2016 22:21 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2016 21:46 HugoBallzak wrote:On March 21 2016 21:42 Nagisama wrote:On March 21 2016 20:36 chrisolo wrote:
Well if you have no pressure whatsoever, it is easier to play your best game. adreN was already booted out, so he knew, he is only playing for his chance to go to a major event. It would not matter, if he sucked and thats why Liquid wouldnt have qualified. In the long run, I am sure it was better to boot adreN out. But he was still the best replacement they could get for the majors. He shut all the haters up, and that's all that mattered to me. Adren can't handle pressure. He gets to come back for an all or nothing run in the mlg qualifier where he knows he is out of the team regardless of how well he does. He plays much looser and manages to help the team out. Still doesn't make him worth keeping over a more dedicated awper. Koosta as the main awp and s1mple picking it up behind him has been really effective. Also, s1mple has turned liquid from a team who basically never won pistol rounds to a team that cant seem to lose them. I'd hardly say anything TL does has been "very effective", though. With all those big names they've been losing a lot of games they shouldn't have. It seems to me that their odds against even mid level euro teams are pretty bad.
I guess you could say the same for LG considering they lost to SELFLESS while a team like C9 completely dominated them. Also CLG taking out tempostorm who just recently scored a bunch of upset wins against EU teams and then liquid taking out CLG 4-0 yesterday is promising. Saying their odds against 'midlevel' euroteams is pretty bad is a bit of a stretch considering that mid level euro teams are not really all that great either. Some of them didn't even make the major over NA teams.
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On March 21 2016 22:39 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2016 21:46 HugoBallzak wrote:On March 21 2016 21:42 Nagisama wrote:On March 21 2016 20:36 chrisolo wrote:
Well if you have no pressure whatsoever, it is easier to play your best game. adreN was already booted out, so he knew, he is only playing for his chance to go to a major event. It would not matter, if he sucked and thats why Liquid wouldnt have qualified. In the long run, I am sure it was better to boot adreN out. But he was still the best replacement they could get for the majors. He shut all the haters up, and that's all that mattered to me. Adren can't handle pressure. He gets to come back for an all or nothing run in the mlg qualifier where he knows he is out of the team regardless of how well he does. He plays much looser and manages to help the team out. Still doesn't make him worth keeping over a more dedicated awper. Koosta as the main awp and s1mple picking it up behind him has been really effective. Also, s1mple has turned liquid from a team who basically never won pistol rounds to a team that cant seem to lose them. He can't handle the pressure? I would not think he didn't care and that there was "no pressure" during that qualifier. He just showed that he can definitely handle his own when he's not calling and when Liquid plays more loosely, that's for sure. Also for sure is that he indeed shut out the haters and that's actually cool. No matter how bad he looked up til they removed him, I wouldn't think he was bad in every single domain, and that there were reason they kept him for so long.
Hate to break it to you but at the qualifier TL pretty much played one team: Hellraisers. They lost a bo1 and then they narrowly escaped a bo3 despite a godlike performance from oskar. So adren playing a few ok maps against a single team with basically no pressure to perform definitely does not mean that the "haters" were wrong for believing the team is better off in the longrun with a real awper and time for the lineup to gel together.
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On March 21 2016 23:39 HugoBallzak wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2016 22:21 Djzapz wrote:On March 21 2016 21:46 HugoBallzak wrote:On March 21 2016 21:42 Nagisama wrote:On March 21 2016 20:36 chrisolo wrote:
Well if you have no pressure whatsoever, it is easier to play your best game. adreN was already booted out, so he knew, he is only playing for his chance to go to a major event. It would not matter, if he sucked and thats why Liquid wouldnt have qualified. In the long run, I am sure it was better to boot adreN out. But he was still the best replacement they could get for the majors. He shut all the haters up, and that's all that mattered to me. Adren can't handle pressure. He gets to come back for an all or nothing run in the mlg qualifier where he knows he is out of the team regardless of how well he does. He plays much looser and manages to help the team out. Still doesn't make him worth keeping over a more dedicated awper. Koosta as the main awp and s1mple picking it up behind him has been really effective. Also, s1mple has turned liquid from a team who basically never won pistol rounds to a team that cant seem to lose them. I'd hardly say anything TL does has been "very effective", though. With all those big names they've been losing a lot of games they shouldn't have. It seems to me that their odds against even mid level euro teams are pretty bad. I guess you could say the same for LG considering they lost to SELFLESS while a team like C9 completely dominated them. Also CLG taking out tempostorm who just recently scored a bunch of upset wins against EU teams and then liquid taking out CLG 4-0 yesterday is promising. Saying their odds against 'midlevel' euroteams is pretty bad is a bit of a stretch considering that mid level euro teams are not really all that great either. Some of them didn't even make the major over NA teams.
Well by mid level I meant like top 5 to 15. But the reason why I'm saying TL's not doing great is not because they've been "upset" like LG has or Tempo Storm (a team which still has to prove itself and the initial belief that they may be great could be a knee-jerk reaction). TL's not doing that great on paper either.
If they make it out of groups over FaZe, I might change my tune.
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On March 21 2016 23:57 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2016 23:39 HugoBallzak wrote:On March 21 2016 22:21 Djzapz wrote:On March 21 2016 21:46 HugoBallzak wrote:On March 21 2016 21:42 Nagisama wrote:On March 21 2016 20:36 chrisolo wrote:
Well if you have no pressure whatsoever, it is easier to play your best game. adreN was already booted out, so he knew, he is only playing for his chance to go to a major event. It would not matter, if he sucked and thats why Liquid wouldnt have qualified. In the long run, I am sure it was better to boot adreN out. But he was still the best replacement they could get for the majors. He shut all the haters up, and that's all that mattered to me. Adren can't handle pressure. He gets to come back for an all or nothing run in the mlg qualifier where he knows he is out of the team regardless of how well he does. He plays much looser and manages to help the team out. Still doesn't make him worth keeping over a more dedicated awper. Koosta as the main awp and s1mple picking it up behind him has been really effective. Also, s1mple has turned liquid from a team who basically never won pistol rounds to a team that cant seem to lose them. I'd hardly say anything TL does has been "very effective", though. With all those big names they've been losing a lot of games they shouldn't have. It seems to me that their odds against even mid level euro teams are pretty bad. I guess you could say the same for LG considering they lost to SELFLESS while a team like C9 completely dominated them. Also CLG taking out tempostorm who just recently scored a bunch of upset wins against EU teams and then liquid taking out CLG 4-0 yesterday is promising. Saying their odds against 'midlevel' euroteams is pretty bad is a bit of a stretch considering that mid level euro teams are not really all that great either. Some of them didn't even make the major over NA teams. Well by mid level I meant like top 5 to 15. But the reason why I'm saying TL's not doing great is not because they've been "upset" like LG has or Tempo Storm (a team which still has to prove itself and the initial belief that they may be great could be a knee-jerk reaction). TL's not doing that great on paper either. If they make it out of groups over FaZe, I might change my tune.
I think faze is ripe for the picking. TL has also beaten fnatic in a bo1 with adren if im not mistaken, or atleast took a map in a couple bo3's.
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France9034 Posts
On March 21 2016 23:42 HugoBallzak wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2016 22:39 Ragnarork wrote:On March 21 2016 21:46 HugoBallzak wrote:On March 21 2016 21:42 Nagisama wrote:On March 21 2016 20:36 chrisolo wrote:
Well if you have no pressure whatsoever, it is easier to play your best game. adreN was already booted out, so he knew, he is only playing for his chance to go to a major event. It would not matter, if he sucked and thats why Liquid wouldnt have qualified. In the long run, I am sure it was better to boot adreN out. But he was still the best replacement they could get for the majors. He shut all the haters up, and that's all that mattered to me. Adren can't handle pressure. He gets to come back for an all or nothing run in the mlg qualifier where he knows he is out of the team regardless of how well he does. He plays much looser and manages to help the team out. Still doesn't make him worth keeping over a more dedicated awper. Koosta as the main awp and s1mple picking it up behind him has been really effective. Also, s1mple has turned liquid from a team who basically never won pistol rounds to a team that cant seem to lose them. He can't handle the pressure? I would not think he didn't care and that there was "no pressure" during that qualifier. He just showed that he can definitely handle his own when he's not calling and when Liquid plays more loosely, that's for sure. Also for sure is that he indeed shut out the haters and that's actually cool. No matter how bad he looked up til they removed him, I wouldn't think he was bad in every single domain, and that there were reason they kept him for so long. Hate to break it to you but at the qualifier TL pretty much played one team: Hellraisers. They lost a bo1 and then they narrowly escaped a bo3 despite a godlike performance from oskar. So adren playing a few ok maps against a single team with basically no pressure to perform definitely does not mean that the "haters" were wrong for believing the team is better off in the longrun with a real awper and time for the lineup to gel together.
Well, those predicting Liquid would fall in the qualifiers because they didn't have koosta were proved wrong. Those who thought adreN couldn't rifle were wrong (he still has horrible AWPing). In the long run, I would also think it is probably a better solution in the long term for the team's firepower. Although it's been quite mixed feelings so far with koosta... And not so sure about the rest.
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I think koosta has done a better job than adren has though I admit he has had some shaky performances to go with the really sick ones. To Koosta's credit though, he has nowhere near the level of pro team and lan experience that adren has and as a result probably many times more the potential to improve. I really like liquid's blend of ages and experience. You know what you are getting with hiko and he can provide that methodical smart clutching ability and level headedness. Nitro and elige are moderately experienced in csgo by now and probably still have room to improve. s1mple and koosta are really young guys with lots of potential and I honestly think s1mple will be top 3 in the world if not number 1 in a couple years. Whether or not he plays for liquid by then will remain to be seen, but imagining an older and more mature / experienced s1mple is kind of terrifying.
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France9034 Posts
Yeah, it's quite scary.
The lineup is indeed quite varied, that's a strength for sure. Then, "will it blend in the long run?" is another story. :<
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I feel things are getting better personally. They still haven't figured out the igl thing. So that will take some time, since Hiko is taking over atm. I feel nitro is still trying to find his place since giving up igl. I think they just need to play more together and learn to really be a team. I feel like it's too much individual play. Give them time. I'm hoping for good things.
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opened two autographs and got olofm and flamie.. my fantasy team's gonna be lit :D
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Ive never bought team stickers before but because I am going to this major I went kind of crazy... I got like 35 or 40 autographs now including a foil get_right, a foil kennys, and another foil I forget. Kinda pissed I got a devil sticker though....lol. I also hot a holo LG and I made a sand dune glock with an mlg sticker, a faze sticker, a drug wars sticker, and a dosia x god sticker.
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France9034 Posts
On March 23 2016 05:18 HugoBallzak wrote:
Ive never bought team stickers before but because I am going to this major I went kind of crazy... I got like 35 or 40 autographs now including a foil get_right, a foil kennys, and another foil I forget. Kinda pissed I got a devil sticker though....lol. I also hot a holo LG and I made a sand dune glock with an mlg sticker, a faze sticker, a drug wars sticker, and a dosia x god sticker.
Make that sticker money rain!
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On March 21 2016 22:39 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2016 21:46 HugoBallzak wrote:On March 21 2016 21:42 Nagisama wrote:On March 21 2016 20:36 chrisolo wrote:
Well if you have no pressure whatsoever, it is easier to play your best game. adreN was already booted out, so he knew, he is only playing for his chance to go to a major event. It would not matter, if he sucked and thats why Liquid wouldnt have qualified. In the long run, I am sure it was better to boot adreN out. But he was still the best replacement they could get for the majors. He shut all the haters up, and that's all that mattered to me. Adren can't handle pressure. He gets to come back for an all or nothing run in the mlg qualifier where he knows he is out of the team regardless of how well he does. He plays much looser and manages to help the team out. Still doesn't make him worth keeping over a more dedicated awper. Koosta as the main awp and s1mple picking it up behind him has been really effective. Also, s1mple has turned liquid from a team who basically never won pistol rounds to a team that cant seem to lose them. He can't handle the pressure? I would not think he didn't care and that there was "no pressure" during that qualifier. He just showed that he can definitely handle his own when he's not calling and when Liquid plays more loosely, that's for sure. Also for sure is that he indeed shut out the haters and that's actually cool. No matter how bad he looked up til they removed him, I wouldn't think he was bad in every single domain, and that there were reason they kept him for so long.
Minor correction if not really that important. He actually was calling halfway through the qualifier. What we do know is that Nitro absolutely hated calling and gave up on it and let Adren do it during the qualifier.
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Faze feels super shaky, not the same after Dennis left.
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There seems to be something really wrong with the ranking system atm.
I'm LEM and got matched vs Novas a couple of times. First i thought: "well, it has to be the new maps", because it only happened on the new ones.
But i just finished a game on Dust II versus 5 Silvers !!! oO
I mean ... WTF ... they were so pissed ... :D
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France9034 Posts
On March 23 2016 12:09 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2016 22:39 Ragnarork wrote:On March 21 2016 21:46 HugoBallzak wrote:On March 21 2016 21:42 Nagisama wrote:On March 21 2016 20:36 chrisolo wrote:
Well if you have no pressure whatsoever, it is easier to play your best game. adreN was already booted out, so he knew, he is only playing for his chance to go to a major event. It would not matter, if he sucked and thats why Liquid wouldnt have qualified. In the long run, I am sure it was better to boot adreN out. But he was still the best replacement they could get for the majors. He shut all the haters up, and that's all that mattered to me. Adren can't handle pressure. He gets to come back for an all or nothing run in the mlg qualifier where he knows he is out of the team regardless of how well he does. He plays much looser and manages to help the team out. Still doesn't make him worth keeping over a more dedicated awper. Koosta as the main awp and s1mple picking it up behind him has been really effective. Also, s1mple has turned liquid from a team who basically never won pistol rounds to a team that cant seem to lose them. He can't handle the pressure? I would not think he didn't care and that there was "no pressure" during that qualifier. He just showed that he can definitely handle his own when he's not calling and when Liquid plays more loosely, that's for sure. Also for sure is that he indeed shut out the haters and that's actually cool. No matter how bad he looked up til they removed him, I wouldn't think he was bad in every single domain, and that there were reason they kept him for so long. Minor correction if not really that important. He actually was calling halfway through the qualifier. What we do know is that Nitro absolutely hated calling and gave up on it and let Adren do it during the qualifier.
Well, apparently Nitr0 was their main caller, just that he had some issues and adreN or even EliGe picked up calling when Nitr0 was out of ideas or solutions apparently. But for the most part, he wasn't their main caller, at most mid-round caller IIRC.
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Hyrule19261 Posts
I played for the first time in many, many months the other day and I still led my team in frags while calling. What the fuck is happening.
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On March 23 2016 21:32 tofucake wrote:
I played for the first time in many, many months the other day and I still led my team in frags while calling. What the fuck is happening.
You're just too good, man. Just too good.
xD
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Hyrule19261 Posts
what the hell did I just watch
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