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On February 16 2016 03:28 HugoBallzak wrote:
Tempo Storm had the benefit of basically lanning together and having fallen with them during the entire run. I think that server crash when cloud9 was up 14-9 or whatever was total bullshit. SOMEbody leaked the IP...
I also don't think TS will do shit on lan.
None of those teams was going to do shit on lan anyway. And frankly if all it takes is having Fallen sitting behind you to beat all the top teams in NA then there really isnt much to say.
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On February 16 2016 03:42 Roggay wrote:I just don't understand anymore. Can't say he is doing very good http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=246&playerid=7433. They really need to find another igl, but then again, there are almost none (that are not banned) in NA.
4750 decoy all the way.
I dont know where Liquid wants to go with the team. S1mple pick-up showed, that they wanted to push the team on the top of Na and were willing to invest for it, not only in a player, but in a player just like simple, the best possible pick up (in my opinion) but also the most risky due to simples past.
Now they keep Adren as IGL and AWP. Adren has shown he is not good in both tasks, his Awping is far far away from strong AWPS in Na like Skadooodle or Fallen (technically not Na, but they live there and fight there). His IGL is also far away from good IGL. Both tasks are criticial and they combine the tasks in one not performing player. Other teams will quickly adept, outside of double awp scenarios, they dont have to fear TLs awp. And they IGL of Adren is also not enough to turn things like IGL of Gob B had done during his mouz times.
What I would do? Push Adren out. Even when it is hard, even when it was "his team" at one point. Buy in Skadoodle even when it costs you. This will form a strong Team. Give either IGL to one of the existing riflers, Nitro, Hiko and the other guy or buy a IGL-Coach.
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hiko is better IGL than adren.
cut adren, pickup anybody else
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hmm oke. Switched to Allu sens (1.95 -----> 3.3). Instantly topfrag in scrim :Dd
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On February 16 2016 05:03 Luolis wrote:
hmm oke. Switched to Allu sens (1.95 -----> 3.3). Instantly topfrag in scrim :Dd
TO bad allu sense isnt doing him any good right now..
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On February 16 2016 05:13 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2016 05:03 Luolis wrote:
hmm oke. Switched to Allu sens (1.95 -----> 3.3). Instantly topfrag in scrim :Dd TO bad allu sense isnt doing him any good right now..
Well, hes atm topfragging the server vs DenDd, and theyre winning the map. :D I think its doing him some good
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TL should cut adren, make hiko IGL, simple to AWP and buyout a nice fragger. Like Roca...
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Germany3128 Posts
Well I would pick Adren any day for my team over a player who doesn't have his teammates back and even joins the bashing ( looking at you Nitr0)
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Canada4481 Posts
nitro joined the bashing? =(
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On February 16 2016 09:37 TheNewEra wrote:
Well I would pick Adren any day for my team over a player who doesn't have his teammates back and even joins the bashing ( looking at you Nitr0)
And that is why your team would be terrible (besides you being on it).
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Megaman tweeted that he saw Koosta make a comment on Ryu's stream that Koosta was trying out for liquid. If liquid MUST keep adren around then gbjames has got to go. Adren moves to coach maybe even IGL and koosta becomes primary awp with s1mple working as a hybrid rifler/awper.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
if NME really outbid TSM then I highly doubt that Liquid has the funds to buyout Koosta from NME
unless Koosta really doesn't like it at NME right now(which is very possible).
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On February 16 2016 23:56 Kipsate wrote:
if NME really outbid TSM then I highly doubt that Liquid has the funds to buyout Koosta from NME
unless Koosta really doesn't like it at NME right now(which is very possible).
Well thorin stated the obvious in his video which is that NME is literally going nowhere in 2016 and that every day liquid keeps adren in the starting 5 is a wasted opportunity. Really hope people start to actually make the tough decisions needed to put NA on the map in 2016. Even with a similar salary there is no way koosta makes more money in 2016 playing for NME when you add in prize money and exposure liquid might be able to provide.
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On February 16 2016 23:56 Kipsate wrote:
if NME really outbid TSM then I highly doubt that Liquid has the funds to buyout Koosta from NME
unless Koosta really doesn't like it at NME right now(which is very possible).
If what I've heard is true (it may not be), Koosta likes NME, he's playing with his little friends, and that may be why C9 got Stewie garbage instead of him, thus continuing the trend of diluting the skill in the NA scene to absurd levels. At this point I'm starting to wonder if we're trying to win by homeopathy.
If Liquid got Koosta, shit just might get real.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
His incentive will probably be more about stickers then salary because I don't really see NME getting a spot at the major over Liquid.
Actual prize money will be doubtfull, the prize money in CSGO with the exception of stickers is not super high but is also incredibly hard to obtain. Bear in mind that NA has a tough time beating EU teams as it is in a single bo3, let alone bo5s or multiple bo3s against top teams(LG not withstanding). Even when (right now) I consider EU to be relatively weaker(VP slumping, Astralis slumping, Envy is still inconsistent, Fnatic has great fragging power yet still has to adjust to Flusha, NiP is running out of magic, only Na`Vi seems to at a strong consistent level).
I don't think NA can rely on prize money honestly(granted NME wouldn't make prize money either).
Not even sure that Koosta would fit in with Liquid either which means its a fairly large risk if you buyout Koosta(considerable transfer fee probably) with no guarentee of success.
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France9034 Posts
The more I read and see about the NA scene, the more I think getting an elite NA team capable of competing internationally is harder than proving p = np.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Maybe if Fallen keeps importing BR to NA until all of NA slots to international events are filled up with BR will something happen
;;.
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Koosta or Roca, sick :p
I am glad SA is doing well, FalleN is a cool guy 
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I can't imagine Koosta wouldn't fit in TL. The guy doesn't seem like he's into bullshit drama, he's an extremely strong awp and a very good rifle. There's no reason to personally dislike the guy, and he fits right into Adren's shoes in terms of role short of IGL. I think Hiko could take over the IGL pretty well, he's a smart guy, and you'd honestly have a NA team with more raw firepower than any NA CSGO team ever and no overtly selfish players.
I wonder if Nitr0 and Elige are the types who could ever IGL. Any of you guys have insight?
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On February 17 2016 00:23 Ragnarork wrote:
The more I read and see about the NA scene, the more I think getting an elite NA team capable of competing internationally is harder than proving p = np.
Its really not that hard if the people with power and the orgs with the funding can make the tough decisions. Cloud 9 came super close to winning 3 straight international lans last year. IBP actually made a finals at an international lan and also won the ESEA lan in dallas once or twice which included teams like LDLC NIP and VP.
Its just some of the current lineups don't make any sense. Adren is not some strategic mastermind who can make up for his near total inability to make simple frags. N0thing calling in place of sgares (an igl much better than adren who could actually frag when needed) is not a very good trade off even if you bring in a better fragger in sgares place. CLG looks like they have improved a bit by adding fugly but the team relies too much on JDM's awping which is basically counteracted by JDM's inability to use a rifle when the awp isn't available to him.
NA teams are on tilt. Nobody got exactly the lineup they wanted. Liquid tried to make s1mple the main awp in the past few matches but it was obvious that sometimes he can help more with simply a rifle, but you literally cant depend on adren awping in s1mple's place.
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