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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
February 16 2016 15:50 GMT
#20521
So you're telling me it wouldn't be difficult if there wasn't all those difficulties. I get the point.
LiquipediaWanderer
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
February 16 2016 15:53 GMT
#20522
the fact that liquid havent gotten all the players into a team house shows that there is still some disparities in the goals of liquid (i'll write about this in details at some time). Koosta to Liquid would be interesting but then Adren has to leave the team and either become a coach (thus gbjames is gone) or something.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
February 16 2016 15:55 GMT
#20523
On February 17 2016 00:53 amazingxkcd wrote:
the fact that liquid havent gotten all the players into a team house shows that there is still some disparities in the goals of liquid (i'll write about this in details at some time). Koosta to Liquid would be interesting but then Adren has to leave the team and either become a coach (thus gbjames is gone) or something.

Hasn't it been determined that team houses don't always work though, and sometimes they do more harm than good? It's not like team houses are a symbol of determination and hard work or whatever.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
HugoBallzak
Profile Joined November 2015
700 Posts
February 16 2016 15:58 GMT
#20524
Cloud 9 made the mistake of waiting to see if swag would be unbanned. Liquid made the mistake of cutting fugly instead of adren, though if they actually do end up cutting both for s1mple and Koosta they are the true off season winners. CLG made the mistake of not doing enough. -FNS was a good move but trying too hard to hold onto tarik was probably a mistake. Letting tarik walk to cloud9 and signing stewie to clg would have probably been a much better move.

Koosta sticking with NME was a mistake, Roca signing early to col was a mistake although this new col lineup looks like it might possibly be the NA darkhorse with more experience.

A lot of these people simply cant see the forest for the trees.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
February 16 2016 16:02 GMT
#20525
On February 17 2016 00:55 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 00:53 amazingxkcd wrote:
the fact that liquid havent gotten all the players into a team house shows that there is still some disparities in the goals of liquid (i'll write about this in details at some time). Koosta to Liquid would be interesting but then Adren has to leave the team and either become a coach (thus gbjames is gone) or something.

Hasn't it been determined that team houses don't always work though, and sometimes they do more harm than good? It's not like team houses are a symbol of determination and hard work or whatever.


team houses works when you have right mentality for them as in actually do your fucking job. Look at the Brazilians, they have a team house and all they do is practice practice practice. Guess what? LG is top 4 team in world, now TS is whooping NA asses left and right as a result. Hell, South Korea understood the benefits of team houses from the get go in Brood War and in league.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 16:06:40
February 16 2016 16:05 GMT
#20526
On February 17 2016 01:02 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 00:55 Djzapz wrote:
On February 17 2016 00:53 amazingxkcd wrote:
the fact that liquid havent gotten all the players into a team house shows that there is still some disparities in the goals of liquid (i'll write about this in details at some time). Koosta to Liquid would be interesting but then Adren has to leave the team and either become a coach (thus gbjames is gone) or something.

Hasn't it been determined that team houses don't always work though, and sometimes they do more harm than good? It's not like team houses are a symbol of determination and hard work or whatever.


team houses works when you have right mentality for them as in actually do your fucking job. Look at the Brazilians, they have a team house and all they do is practice practice practice. Guess what? LG is top 4 team in world, now TS is whooping NA asses left and right as a result. Hell, South Korea understood the benefits of team houses from the get go in Brood War and in league.

I agree that it worked for LG but I wouldn't be comfortable saying it's necessarily the way to go for all teams, it may have been Fnatic which recently said like bootcamping and teamhouses don't work for them. Some teams just work better in an informal climate. Part of the reason why a team house may have worked for LG is that they're one of the most tactical teams out there along with Na'Vi.

And I wouldn't be comfortable in a teamhouse with Freakazoid, I think that man is dangerous.+ Show Spoiler +
omg I kid
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
February 16 2016 16:05 GMT
#20527
On February 17 2016 00:58 HugoBallzak wrote:
Koosta sticking with NME was a mistake, Roca signing early to col was a mistake although this new col lineup looks like it might possibly be the NA darkhorse with more experience..


Roca signing with coL seems to be a mistake when one looks at it superciliously but I suspect Jason Lake is on to something. Don't be surprised if coL is top 4 NA in a few months


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The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
February 16 2016 16:07 GMT
#20528
On February 17 2016 01:05 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 01:02 amazingxkcd wrote:
On February 17 2016 00:55 Djzapz wrote:
On February 17 2016 00:53 amazingxkcd wrote:
the fact that liquid havent gotten all the players into a team house shows that there is still some disparities in the goals of liquid (i'll write about this in details at some time). Koosta to Liquid would be interesting but then Adren has to leave the team and either become a coach (thus gbjames is gone) or something.

Hasn't it been determined that team houses don't always work though, and sometimes they do more harm than good? It's not like team houses are a symbol of determination and hard work or whatever.


team houses works when you have right mentality for them as in actually do your fucking job. Look at the Brazilians, they have a team house and all they do is practice practice practice. Guess what? LG is top 4 team in world, now TS is whooping NA asses left and right as a result. Hell, South Korea understood the benefits of team houses from the get go in Brood War and in league.

I agree that it worked for LG but I wouldn't be comfortable saying it's necessarily the way to go for all teams, it may have been Fnatic which recently said like bootcamping and teamhouses don't work.

And I wouldn't be comfortable in a teamhouse with Freakazoid, I think that man is dangerous.+ Show Spoiler +
omg I kid


it's not going to work when you have relationships with a girl or want to have social life outside the team. Then again, one can debate the effects of having such a relationship as a detriment of playing performance
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
HugoBallzak
Profile Joined November 2015
700 Posts
February 16 2016 16:09 GMT
#20529
It would be preferable if players lived near each other but not WITH each other and they had a set place to go to practice before going home.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
February 16 2016 16:10 GMT
#20530
On February 17 2016 01:09 HugoBallzak wrote:
It would be preferable if players lived near each other but not WITH each other and they had a set place to go to practice before going home.


so the winterfox method of having an office and treating it as a 9-5?
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
February 16 2016 16:11 GMT
#20531
On February 17 2016 01:05 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 01:02 amazingxkcd wrote:
On February 17 2016 00:55 Djzapz wrote:
On February 17 2016 00:53 amazingxkcd wrote:
the fact that liquid havent gotten all the players into a team house shows that there is still some disparities in the goals of liquid (i'll write about this in details at some time). Koosta to Liquid would be interesting but then Adren has to leave the team and either become a coach (thus gbjames is gone) or something.

Hasn't it been determined that team houses don't always work though, and sometimes they do more harm than good? It's not like team houses are a symbol of determination and hard work or whatever.


team houses works when you have right mentality for them as in actually do your fucking job. Look at the Brazilians, they have a team house and all they do is practice practice practice. Guess what? LG is top 4 team in world, now TS is whooping NA asses left and right as a result. Hell, South Korea understood the benefits of team houses from the get go in Brood War and in league.

I agree that it worked for LG but I wouldn't be comfortable saying it's necessarily the way to go for all teams, it may have been Fnatic which recently said like bootcamping and teamhouses don't work for them. Some teams just work better in an informal climate. Part of the reason why a team house may have worked for LG is that they're one of the most tactical teams out there along with Na'Vi.

And I wouldn't be comfortable in a teamhouse with Freakazoid, I think that man is dangerous.+ Show Spoiler +
omg I kid


It has nothing to do with formal or informal. A team house can be an informal place too. Fnatic dont need bootcamps because at this point they are at hive mind level anyway. For normal teams being in the same environment is huge,even little things like learning how to screen watch your team mate and also pay attention to your own game effectively are absolutely massive skills to have.

You cant really do this unless you lan together all the time. For any team that is looking to improve communication and understanding there is no substitute for scrimming on lan, and for that you need team houses.
HugoBallzak
Profile Joined November 2015
700 Posts
February 16 2016 16:17 GMT
#20532
On February 17 2016 01:10 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 01:09 HugoBallzak wrote:
It would be preferable if players lived near each other but not WITH each other and they had a set place to go to practice before going home.


so the winterfox method of having an office and treating it as a 9-5?



Sure why not? The top professionals in just about every competitive sport in the world don't live together but they practice together. Online practice will never match practicing together as if you were playing on lan. Its pretty obvious that tempstorm being in the same room playing online against a bunch of scattered teams was a huge advantage in terms of communication and excitement.

However, I think it is pretty obvious that this kind of setup is not 100% necessary. Not having a teamhouse didn't really stop fnatic from crushing everyone in 2015. Same with envyus.
HugoBallzak
Profile Joined November 2015
700 Posts
February 16 2016 16:55 GMT
#20533


IT IS HAPPENING!!!

I am so excited for team liquid right now. Only thing that could make this worse is if someone other than adren is cut such as them giving up on s1mple due to his twitter behavior.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
February 16 2016 16:56 GMT
#20534
They're not going to give up on s1mple. Dude is too good not too, and he didn't have media training yet (poor management). Now things are going to get good
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
February 16 2016 17:09 GMT
#20535
And then dun dun dun EliGe out. How ridiculous that'd be.
LiquipediaWanderer
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
February 16 2016 17:13 GMT
#20536
On February 17 2016 02:09 Ragnarork wrote:
And then dun dun dun EliGe out. How ridiculous that'd be.


Would be sooo funny but also sooo bad when Adren wount get cut off.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
February 16 2016 17:15 GMT
#20537
nonononono, you guys don't get the real roster move.

Liquid is buying out NME roster; they're going to make a 10 man roster and it will be glorious!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
February 16 2016 17:17 GMT
#20538
Each dedicated role has a dedicated coach.
It's basically having symbyonts playing each position!
LiquipediaWanderer
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 17:23:01
February 16 2016 17:22 GMT
#20539
On February 17 2016 02:17 Ragnarork wrote:
Each dedicated role has a dedicated coach.
It's basically having symbyonts playing each position!


now all they need is Vince Lombardi and they have a football team!


wait a minute....
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 16 2016 17:28 GMT
#20540
Teamhouses don't work for everyone, none(or few) of the EU teams even have one from what I know but they still wreck the shit out of anyone. CLG has had 1 for a very long time and they didn't get anywhere, teamhouses are not magic. It seems to work for the BR people but none of the EU people do it.

Teams like nV or fnatic bootcamp before a large event and it seems to work out just fine for them.
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