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On February 02 2013 01:18 scDeluX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:00 PandaCore wrote:
I wish I could get into this game somehow. I've played it carefree up to level 21 for a while and had fun, then realized there is no respec system (apart from a few measly points). So I now still have half of my points not allocated, but already fear I've put some somewhere where I shouldn't have. I also don't really know what I want to end up doing, since I haven't seen much of the game yet.
Personally I just like to play one character and focus on that one, but I'm too much of a perfectionist and fear of ending up with bad skills. Starting a new character and doing the same all over again is something that really puts a dent into my enjoyment of games. Usually I enjoy the "endgame" the most, and leveling is just a means of getting there for me and I'm always glad when that phase is done for.
So my main gripe really is that, before actually playing and knowing how a character works, you already have to have everything planned out in this one. If you don't want to spend the time leveling up characters over and over again, you just have to know everything beforehand, from spells to skills to passives.
So as I don't want to spend that much time with the game (maybe 1-3 hours an evening), it's probably not for me.
Maybe I've become too casual when it comes to things like this.
I do understand and ackowlegde it might be fun to some people though. I'm kinda like you. My plan was to just spec a bit randomly and keep all respect from quests. Then when I get to lvl 60-70+ I can just buy the tokens I miss and at least have 1 full respect for relatively cheap. I am wrong with that assumption? Are token of respec ridiculously pricy?
Speccing is not THAT hard. At least for my dual wield duelist it was not. I just took all the points specializing in this, without thinking much about it. Later I looked up a recommended build on the official forum, and found out that all my points were essentially correct.
So if you have doubts, just look at the forums for a decent build.
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On February 02 2013 01:23 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:15 Redox wrote:On February 02 2013 00:59 Tennet wrote:On February 02 2013 00:23 Butterednuts wrote:On February 01 2013 22:43 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 01 2013 18:04 Type|NarutO wrote:On February 01 2013 16:38 Dirkinity wrote:
Played through act1 in the first day but didn't touched the game since then. D3 is jjust the better game. I don't see a motivation to play PoE. Can you give reasoning for it? Anyone that thinks D3 is better is not going to be able to give you an intelligent reason as to why. These are MY reasons as to why I think D3 is better than PoE, mister blanket statement: 1. Better graphics style - A lot of the animations, models, and abilities are all pretty boring to me and lack that feeling of epicness. 2. Better storyline - I can't get into the PoE story at all whereas during my first playthrough of D3 I listening to every story element that I could. 3. Better inventory system - I hate that everything in PoE takes up 1/8th of my inventory. In D3 everything is either 1x1 or 2x1 so picking up loot doesn't feel as bad. Now there are some things that PoE does better that I'm sure D3 will incorporate in the future (Blizzard loves borrowing ideas), but I just cannot get into PoE like I did D3. Again those are my reasons and are not reasons of the entire D3 community. 1. Graphics mean NOTHING 2. D3 storyline is good? The writing was terrible, the bosses' characters were nothing like they should be. YOU YOU LIT THE BEACONS, BUT YOU WON'T RAISE THE CATAPULTS! GAH YOU RAISED THE CATAPULTS, YOU WON'T DEFEAT ME AFTER YOU COME TO 867 BROADWAY STREET! How about Belial being incapable of actually deceiving the player? It was really obvious that the emperor wasn't them self. 3. Let me quote a Dev for you.. Right now the inventory space is working as intended. If it were made any larger, then there would be more magic items and rares to sell, increasing the number of orbs of alteration you'd get, or increasing the number of rares on the trade market. This would create problems with the way the economy is designed. Even if D3 was to keep patching to rip off PoE, it STILL would be a bad game. Your reasoning for liking D3 more has no real foundation of logical reasoning and makes you look utterly silly which is why we bother to address your post. This is such a terrible and disrespectful post. The guy you quoted stated explicitly these are HIS reasons why he likes D3 better. Who are you to tell him what he has to like and what not, or call him silly for it? Why do people even have to defend themselves for liking D3 here? Its just stupid. Because it's a forum, and opinions will clash. Also, if a Call of Duty fan were to go onto a cs 1.6 or Quake Live forum and start explaining why he thinks CoD games are better, then of course he will get called out on it. It's a similar situation here.
It should be a little different, because this is not a PoE forum. Its just one thread on TL. And you should expect the community to be somewhat respectful to each other. After all there is a reason why we are hanging out here and not on a PoE community site.
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On February 02 2013 01:23 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:18 scDeluX wrote:On February 02 2013 01:00 PandaCore wrote:
I wish I could get into this game somehow. I've played it carefree up to level 21 for a while and had fun, then realized there is no respec system (apart from a few measly points). So I now still have half of my points not allocated, but already fear I've put some somewhere where I shouldn't have. I also don't really know what I want to end up doing, since I haven't seen much of the game yet.
Personally I just like to play one character and focus on that one, but I'm too much of a perfectionist and fear of ending up with bad skills. Starting a new character and doing the same all over again is something that really puts a dent into my enjoyment of games. Usually I enjoy the "endgame" the most, and leveling is just a means of getting there for me and I'm always glad when that phase is done for.
So my main gripe really is that, before actually playing and knowing how a character works, you already have to have everything planned out in this one. If you don't want to spend the time leveling up characters over and over again, you just have to know everything beforehand, from spells to skills to passives.
So as I don't want to spend that much time with the game (maybe 1-3 hours an evening), it's probably not for me.
Maybe I've become too casual when it comes to things like this.
I do understand and ackowlegde it might be fun to some people though. I'm kinda like you. My plan was to just spec a bit randomly and keep all respect from quests. Then when I get to lvl 60-70+ I can just buy the tokens I miss and at least have 1 full respect for relatively cheap. I am wrong with that assumption? Are token of respec ridiculously pricy? Speccing is not THAT hard. At least for my dual wield duelist it was not. I just took all the points specializing in this, without thinking much about it. Later I looked up a recommended build in the forum, and found out that all my points were essentially correct. So if you have doubts, just look at the forums for a decent build.
Pretty much this. If you aren't comfortably with exploring and coming up with your own builds, then just look to the forums for inspiration. You can straight up copy someone's successful build, or modify it to your own liking. The amount of customization in this game is absurd.
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On February 02 2013 01:15 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:59 Tennet wrote:On February 02 2013 00:23 Butterednuts wrote:On February 01 2013 22:43 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 01 2013 18:04 Type|NarutO wrote:On February 01 2013 16:38 Dirkinity wrote:
Played through act1 in the first day but didn't touched the game since then. D3 is jjust the better game. I don't see a motivation to play PoE. Can you give reasoning for it? Anyone that thinks D3 is better is not going to be able to give you an intelligent reason as to why. These are MY reasons as to why I think D3 is better than PoE, mister blanket statement: 1. Better graphics style - A lot of the animations, models, and abilities are all pretty boring to me and lack that feeling of epicness. 2. Better storyline - I can't get into the PoE story at all whereas during my first playthrough of D3 I listening to every story element that I could. 3. Better inventory system - I hate that everything in PoE takes up 1/8th of my inventory. In D3 everything is either 1x1 or 2x1 so picking up loot doesn't feel as bad. Now there are some things that PoE does better that I'm sure D3 will incorporate in the future (Blizzard loves borrowing ideas), but I just cannot get into PoE like I did D3. Again those are my reasons and are not reasons of the entire D3 community. 1. Graphics mean NOTHING 2. D3 storyline is good? The writing was terrible, the bosses' characters were nothing like they should be. YOU YOU LIT THE BEACONS, BUT YOU WON'T RAISE THE CATAPULTS! GAH YOU RAISED THE CATAPULTS, YOU WON'T DEFEAT ME AFTER YOU COME TO 867 BROADWAY STREET! How about Belial being incapable of actually deceiving the player? It was really obvious that the emperor wasn't them self. 3. Let me quote a Dev for you.. Right now the inventory space is working as intended. If it were made any larger, then there would be more magic items and rares to sell, increasing the number of orbs of alteration you'd get, or increasing the number of rares on the trade market. This would create problems with the way the economy is designed. Even if D3 was to keep patching to rip off PoE, it STILL would be a bad game. Your reasoning for liking D3 more has no real foundation of logical reasoning and makes you look utterly silly which is why we bother to address your post. This is such a terrible and disrespectful post. The guy you quoted stated explicitly these are HIS reasons why he likes D3 better. Who are you to tell him what he has to like and what not, or call him silly for it? Why do people even have to defend themselves for liking D3 here? Its just stupid.
Oh no! I've hurt your feelings and maybe his feelings! I should put myself in time out for stating I think his opinion is crap. Why is he entitled to say what he wants because he wrote "MY" and I didn't?
Why do people think they are entitled to being respected for everything they say or do? I honestly don't care if it his opinion or not, he didn't state any reason that holds as a solid argument which then failed to gain my respect. Whatever happened to gaining respect?
On February 02 2013 01:28 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:23 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 02 2013 01:15 Redox wrote:On February 02 2013 00:59 Tennet wrote:On February 02 2013 00:23 Butterednuts wrote:On February 01 2013 22:43 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 01 2013 18:04 Type|NarutO wrote:On February 01 2013 16:38 Dirkinity wrote:
Played through act1 in the first day but didn't touched the game since then. D3 is jjust the better game. I don't see a motivation to play PoE. Can you give reasoning for it? Anyone that thinks D3 is better is not going to be able to give you an intelligent reason as to why. These are MY reasons as to why I think D3 is better than PoE, mister blanket statement: 1. Better graphics style - A lot of the animations, models, and abilities are all pretty boring to me and lack that feeling of epicness. 2. Better storyline - I can't get into the PoE story at all whereas during my first playthrough of D3 I listening to every story element that I could. 3. Better inventory system - I hate that everything in PoE takes up 1/8th of my inventory. In D3 everything is either 1x1 or 2x1 so picking up loot doesn't feel as bad. Now there are some things that PoE does better that I'm sure D3 will incorporate in the future (Blizzard loves borrowing ideas), but I just cannot get into PoE like I did D3. Again those are my reasons and are not reasons of the entire D3 community. 1. Graphics mean NOTHING 2. D3 storyline is good? The writing was terrible, the bosses' characters were nothing like they should be. YOU YOU LIT THE BEACONS, BUT YOU WON'T RAISE THE CATAPULTS! GAH YOU RAISED THE CATAPULTS, YOU WON'T DEFEAT ME AFTER YOU COME TO 867 BROADWAY STREET! How about Belial being incapable of actually deceiving the player? It was really obvious that the emperor wasn't them self. 3. Let me quote a Dev for you.. Right now the inventory space is working as intended. If it were made any larger, then there would be more magic items and rares to sell, increasing the number of orbs of alteration you'd get, or increasing the number of rares on the trade market. This would create problems with the way the economy is designed. Even if D3 was to keep patching to rip off PoE, it STILL would be a bad game. Your reasoning for liking D3 more has no real foundation of logical reasoning and makes you look utterly silly which is why we bother to address your post. This is such a terrible and disrespectful post. The guy you quoted stated explicitly these are HIS reasons why he likes D3 better. Who are you to tell him what he has to like and what not, or call him silly for it? Why do people even have to defend themselves for liking D3 here? Its just stupid. Because it's a forum, and opinions will clash. Also, if a Call of Duty fan were to go onto a cs 1.6 or Quake Live forum and start explaining why he thinks CoD games are better, then of course he will get called out on it. It's a similar situation here. It should be a little different, because this is not a PoE forum. Its just one thread on TL. And you should expect the community to be somewhat respectful to each other. After all there is a reason why we are hanging out here and not on a PoE community site.
We're here because we like starcraft or used to like starcraft.
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On February 02 2013 01:23 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:18 scDeluX wrote:On February 02 2013 01:00 PandaCore wrote:
I wish I could get into this game somehow. I've played it carefree up to level 21 for a while and had fun, then realized there is no respec system (apart from a few measly points). So I now still have half of my points not allocated, but already fear I've put some somewhere where I shouldn't have. I also don't really know what I want to end up doing, since I haven't seen much of the game yet.
Personally I just like to play one character and focus on that one, but I'm too much of a perfectionist and fear of ending up with bad skills. Starting a new character and doing the same all over again is something that really puts a dent into my enjoyment of games. Usually I enjoy the "endgame" the most, and leveling is just a means of getting there for me and I'm always glad when that phase is done for.
So my main gripe really is that, before actually playing and knowing how a character works, you already have to have everything planned out in this one. If you don't want to spend the time leveling up characters over and over again, you just have to know everything beforehand, from spells to skills to passives.
So as I don't want to spend that much time with the game (maybe 1-3 hours an evening), it's probably not for me.
Maybe I've become too casual when it comes to things like this.
I do understand and ackowlegde it might be fun to some people though. I'm kinda like you. My plan was to just spec a bit randomly and keep all respect from quests. Then when I get to lvl 60-70+ I can just buy the tokens I miss and at least have 1 full respect for relatively cheap. I am wrong with that assumption? Are token of respec ridiculously pricy? Speccing is not THAT hard. At least for my dual wield duelist it was not. I just took all the points specializing in this, without thinking much about it. Later I looked up a recommended build in the forum, and found out that all my points were essentially correct. So if you have doubts, just look at the forums for a decent build.
Forums are a good place for builds, but you're right it's not hard to create a built yourself. You just have to have an idea of what skills you want to use, and then what stats/keystones you need to support those skills. Need Resolute Technique for your 2h mace Marauder because you won't have a lot of access to accuracy? Plan a route to RT that passes through some life/2h damage nodes. Since you get a lot of passive points and the tree is very large it is easy to spread yourself too thin and not accomplish anything with your passives.
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On February 02 2013 01:18 scDeluX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:00 PandaCore wrote:
I wish I could get into this game somehow. I've played it carefree up to level 21 for a while and had fun, then realized there is no respec system (apart from a few measly points). So I now still have half of my points not allocated, but already fear I've put some somewhere where I shouldn't have. I also don't really know what I want to end up doing, since I haven't seen much of the game yet.
Personally I just like to play one character and focus on that one, but I'm too much of a perfectionist and fear of ending up with bad skills. Starting a new character and doing the same all over again is something that really puts a dent into my enjoyment of games. Usually I enjoy the "endgame" the most, and leveling is just a means of getting there for me and I'm always glad when that phase is done for.
So my main gripe really is that, before actually playing and knowing how a character works, you already have to have everything planned out in this one. If you don't want to spend the time leveling up characters over and over again, you just have to know everything beforehand, from spells to skills to passives.
So as I don't want to spend that much time with the game (maybe 1-3 hours an evening), it's probably not for me.
Maybe I've become too casual when it comes to things like this.
I do understand and ackowlegde it might be fun to some people though. I'm kinda like you. My plan was to just spec a bit randomly and keep all respect from quests. Then when I get to lvl 60-70+ I can just buy the tokens I miss and at least have 1 full respect for relatively cheap. I am wrong with that assumption? Are token of respec ridiculously pricy?
If you'd like, you can think of the first char you make as only making it halfway through the leveling process. The final bit of leveling comes when you make your 2nd 
Being deterred by options really just points to your desire of a linear game where you are given fewer choices. How absurd! Right?
Stop thinking like that! :p
We end up with games like Crash Bandicoot...
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On February 02 2013 01:34 danl9rm wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:18 scDeluX wrote:On February 02 2013 01:00 PandaCore wrote:
I wish I could get into this game somehow. I've played it carefree up to level 21 for a while and had fun, then realized there is no respec system (apart from a few measly points). So I now still have half of my points not allocated, but already fear I've put some somewhere where I shouldn't have. I also don't really know what I want to end up doing, since I haven't seen much of the game yet.
Personally I just like to play one character and focus on that one, but I'm too much of a perfectionist and fear of ending up with bad skills. Starting a new character and doing the same all over again is something that really puts a dent into my enjoyment of games. Usually I enjoy the "endgame" the most, and leveling is just a means of getting there for me and I'm always glad when that phase is done for.
So my main gripe really is that, before actually playing and knowing how a character works, you already have to have everything planned out in this one. If you don't want to spend the time leveling up characters over and over again, you just have to know everything beforehand, from spells to skills to passives.
So as I don't want to spend that much time with the game (maybe 1-3 hours an evening), it's probably not for me.
Maybe I've become too casual when it comes to things like this.
I do understand and ackowlegde it might be fun to some people though. I'm kinda like you. My plan was to just spec a bit randomly and keep all respect from quests. Then when I get to lvl 60-70+ I can just buy the tokens I miss and at least have 1 full respect for relatively cheap. I am wrong with that assumption? Are token of respec ridiculously pricy? If you'd like, you can think of the first char you make as only making it halfway through the leveling process. The final bit of leveling comes when you make your 2nd Being deterred by options really just points to your desire of a linear game where you are given fewer choices. How absurd! Right? Stop thinking like that! :p We end up with games like Crash Bandicoot...
lol random.
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My first character (witch) has random points in frost, fire, now working towards the +1 minion/explosion/etc. just for fun...
What the hell, I can optimize later when I've figured out which skills etc. are the most fun...
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Your 2nd character will also level twice as fast. Even faster if you keep some low-mid level gear. Then you might start another one for a 3h race, and get to level 28, and realize you actually like the little guy. Before you know, you have five lvl 30+ characters and plenty of twink gear !
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Anyone here particularly familiar with a summoner witch? I'm at the point now where I've accumulated enough wealth that I can, with some effort, go for mostly anything I need. Right now on the chopping block is testing how to enhance minions and which ones to buff. I need more fusings for my 6 BBBBBB armor but otherwise looking for input on what other people have tested. Namely which combinations of auras or skills
Currently running Zombie, Skeleton, Minion Life, and Faster Attack in a helm and my summons have never cleared as fast or as easy, so I think in the long run I'll keep Faster Attack as part of my end-game build.
Going over the numbers, some of the auras seem really lackluster. Haste only provides 14% AS 7% MS at max level, and while it's convenient that it doesn't need to be linked I'm considering dropping it altogether. Of all the auras I've tried I'm thinking that Wrath, Clarity, and Discipline are the best choices.
And does anyone know the stats for minions? They all say they have elemental resist and the tooltips show their life, but how much damage do they when they attack and how much resist do they actually have? Is it worth it to try using Purity for bosses or some such?
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Is anyone getting high ping in game ? Some zones i join have 130+ and others 50 which is about normal for me
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On February 02 2013 02:03 AnotherRandom wrote:
Anyone here particularly familiar with a summoner witch? I'm at the point now where I've accumulated enough wealth that I can, with some effort, go for mostly anything I need. Right now on the chopping block is testing how to enhance minions and which ones to buff. I need more fusings for my 6 BBBBBB armor but otherwise looking for input on what other people have tested. Namely which combinations of auras or skills
Currently running Zombie, Skeleton, Minion Life, and Faster Attack in a helm and my summons have never cleared as fast or as easy, so I think in the long run I'll keep Faster Attack as part of my end-game build.
Going over the numbers, some of the auras seem really lackluster. Haste only provides 14% AS 7% MS at max level, and while it's convenient that it doesn't need to be linked I'm considering dropping it altogether. Of all the auras I've tried I'm thinking that Wrath, Clarity, and Discipline are the best choices.
And does anyone know the stats for minions? They all say they have elemental resist and the tooltips show their life, but how much damage do they when they attack and how much resist do they actually have? Is it worth it to try using Purity for bosses or some such?
I'm far from an expert but I found summon focused builds to be a little underwhelming, at least early on. I'm sure you can make it work but I think it will require some strong gear. You may want to check around on PoE forums for more in depth theorycrafting or builds for summoners.
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On February 02 2013 02:09 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 02:03 AnotherRandom wrote:
Anyone here particularly familiar with a summoner witch? I'm at the point now where I've accumulated enough wealth that I can, with some effort, go for mostly anything I need. Right now on the chopping block is testing how to enhance minions and which ones to buff. I need more fusings for my 6 BBBBBB armor but otherwise looking for input on what other people have tested. Namely which combinations of auras or skills
Currently running Zombie, Skeleton, Minion Life, and Faster Attack in a helm and my summons have never cleared as fast or as easy, so I think in the long run I'll keep Faster Attack as part of my end-game build.
Going over the numbers, some of the auras seem really lackluster. Haste only provides 14% AS 7% MS at max level, and while it's convenient that it doesn't need to be linked I'm considering dropping it altogether. Of all the auras I've tried I'm thinking that Wrath, Clarity, and Discipline are the best choices.
And does anyone know the stats for minions? They all say they have elemental resist and the tooltips show their life, but how much damage do they when they attack and how much resist do they actually have? Is it worth it to try using Purity for bosses or some such? I'm far from an expert but I found summon focused builds to be a little underwhelming, at least early on. I'm sure you can make it work but I think it will require some strong gear. You may want to check around on PoE forums for more in depth theorycrafting or builds for summoners.
Summoners are only underwhelming until you get Minion Instability, and then the build really comes into its own.
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For how much do you guys think I can sell a white 5L lvl 41 ES chest? softcore.
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On February 02 2013 02:03 AnotherRandom wrote: I need more fusings for my 6 BBBBBB armor
Just FYI, Kripp was talking on his stream last night about trying to fuse 5 and 6 link items out of 6-socket items, and he said some guy blew ~1300 fusings for testing purposes, and got *no* 6L and like 5 or 6 5Link+1 configurations. Apparently the theoretical chance is ~1/500 for fusing a 6L every time you try so this guy got somewhat unlucky, but still...
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On February 02 2013 00:23 Butterednuts wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 22:43 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 01 2013 18:04 Type|NarutO wrote:On February 01 2013 16:38 Dirkinity wrote:
Played through act1 in the first day but didn't touched the game since then. D3 is jjust the better game. I don't see a motivation to play PoE. Can you give reasoning for it? Anyone that thinks D3 is better is not going to be able to give you an intelligent reason as to why. These are MY reasons as to why I think D3 is better than PoE, mister blanket statement: 1. Better graphics style - A lot of the animations, models, and abilities are all pretty boring to me and lack that feeling of epicness. 2. Better storyline - I can't get into the PoE story at all whereas during my first playthrough of D3 I listening to every story element that I could. 3. Better inventory system - I hate that everything in PoE takes up 1/8th of my inventory. In D3 everything is either 1x1 or 2x1 so picking up loot doesn't feel as bad. Now there are some things that PoE does better that I'm sure D3 will incorporate in the future (Blizzard loves borrowing ideas), but I just cannot get into PoE like I did D3. Again those are my reasons and are not reasons of the entire D3 community.
I just have to comment #2. Story in D3 is terrible. It is just so bad. From idiotic bad guys, bad story decision and Blizzard basically telling you near the start of Act 1 that the girl is going to become Diablo. Not to mention you can predict 99% of everything else that is going to happen except the death of most iconic Diablo universe character, that comes into the 1% left because it is the most idiotic choice possible and nobody expected it. Unlike things in GoT like Ned being really killed this didn't make any story sense, nothing was accomplished by his death. Please don't mention story as strong part of D3, it just makes you look like a fool or a kid.
PoE does not have much of a story but it is still better then what D3 gave us. Sometimes less is more, D1 and D2 team understood that.
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Yeah but lets be honest here, Blizzard games have never had particularly great storytelling. The real draw is the gameplay lol. I think this is true of pretty much all online games. Only single player games are capable of delivering great stories imo.
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On February 02 2013 02:35 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Yeah but lets be honest here, Blizzard games have never had particularly great storytelling. The real draw is the gameplay lol.
Really? You didn't like the story in SC/SC:BW, D2, and WC3? I thought they all had great stories, and D2 managed to do it in an ARPG setting with fabulous cinematics and short snippet conversations that gave you just enough story to make the world come alive.
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On February 02 2013 02:24 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 02:03 AnotherRandom wrote: I need more fusings for my 6 BBBBBB armor Just FYI, Kripp was talking on his stream last night about trying to fuse 5 and 6 link items out of 6-socket items, and he said some guy blew ~1300 fusings for testing purposes, and got *no* 6L and like 5 or 6 5Link+1 configurations. Apparently the theoretical chance is ~1/500 for fusing a 6L every time you try so this guy got somewhat unlucky, but still...
I think the general consensus is that if you are blowing fusings on a 6 socket item and manage to get 5L, you keep it unless you have a ridiculous number of fusings left to blow on it. The chance of getting 6L is so low that giving up on a 5L for it seems kind of silly.
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Fair.
I was more working on "its usually better to alch/chaos an existing 5/6 link than it is to jewellers/fuse an existing rare (obviously well rolled)"
I suppose I could be wrong. I guess GGG has it balanced pretty well, but good gear is HARD to get perfect.
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