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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 01 2013 19:52 GMT
#4901
Small PSA: If you are having desync issues, typing "/oos" (no quotation marks obviously) will instantly re-sync you. Obviously this might be awkward in the middle of a boss fight.

@crms: Kripp and crew (the guys at like 84-85) do 66-70 maps atm. 66 are considered fluff by them, 67 are OK, 68 are quality, 69/70 are re rolled a lot for good mods (as far as I can make out).
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AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
February 01 2013 19:54 GMT
#4902
On February 02 2013 04:40 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 03:50 ZasZ. wrote:
On February 02 2013 03:12 Redox wrote:
On February 02 2013 02:59 crms wrote:
On February 01 2013 21:04 Dirkinity wrote:
On February 01 2013 18:04 Type|NarutO wrote:
On February 01 2013 16:38 Dirkinity wrote:
Played through act1 in the first day but didn't touched the game since then. D3 is jjust the better game. I don't see a motivation to play PoE.


Can you give reasoning for it?


I think in D3 I have a goal to reach and in PoE... I don't know. I don't see a motivation in to get maxlevel and equip a char in PoE...


I can understand people thinking D3>PoE but not for the reason you gave. PoE has infinitely more goals than D3. The only goal in D3 is to gain Paragon level and a hellfire ring. It has no depth. Unless you mean goal is to make money on RMAH but for 99% of people hours/earned you're making a really bad ROI.

For me it was killing Diablo on the hardest difficulty. Then I farmed a little and sold the gold I made for 50 Euros.
I dont see a point in playing one game for months and months or even years. Imo a game should be boring after so much time, anything else seems strange.
So I was perfectly happy with D3 after playing it for 3 months and quitting then.


You are a fairly established poster on Team Liquid and don't see the point in playing one game for an extended period of time?

For me, I split the games I play into two categories. In one categories are the games that I plan on playing until I beat them or I get bored. FPS and RPG games fall into this category, and I expect to get anywhere from 10-60 hours max out of a game before I have done everything there is to do or everything I care to do in the game.

In the other category are games that are really more like a hobby, either because they are competitive or because I never get bored. I play these games every day for an extended period of time, putting in well over 100 hours, and in some cases 1,000 hours in each one. Over the course of my ~10 years since I switched from consoles to computer games, only a few games have been in this category: SC:BW, D2, WC3/TFT, WoW, SC2, and most recently Dota 2.

I guess for me these action RPGs never belonged to this second category, because they are not competetive. Or more precisely, PvE and not PvP.
PvE I play until killing the final boss, PvP for much longer.


I mostly agree with your views on PvP having potentially longer legs than PvE. That said, WoW is mainly a pve game and it has lasted for a ridiculous amount of time because they continually add new pve content for players to stomp through. I'm hoping PoE gets big enough so that the devs can regularly release new content much like Blizzard does with WoW.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
February 01 2013 20:11 GMT
#4903
How does EV/AR scaling on a hybrid chest work with IR? Including item mods and passives.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
February 01 2013 20:12 GMT
#4904
On February 02 2013 04:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
I wonder what the most common level of death is for HC characters (Ignoring level 1-5 deaths I guess).

I mean, nobody has died at 80+ yet, but I'm wondering if there are "spikes" around, say, 25-30 or similar.


a Lvl 80+ died in hardcore yesterday

it was due to lag or the game being unstable
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 01 2013 20:24 GMT
#4905
Oh wow hadn't heard.
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-Dustin-
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States718 Posts
February 01 2013 20:25 GMT
#4906
On the subject of HC deaths I thought this one from KingKongor was pretty funny. Brutus is a beast.

AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
February 01 2013 20:30 GMT
#4907
lol ^^^^^

That sucks
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 01 2013 20:35 GMT
#4908
Yeah I heard about kongor dying. I gather certain other high-level players were rather smug about it.

I guess he didn't granite fast enough
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
February 01 2013 20:49 GMT
#4909
On February 02 2013 05:11 Tennet wrote:
How does EV/AR scaling on a hybrid chest work with IR? Including item mods and passives.


I believe the dev already explained that % armor doesn't apply to the armor that is converted by IR.

So if you have 50% bonus evasion, 10% bonus armor, and IR, and wear an armor with 100EV/100AR,

The 100 base evasion becomes 150 evasion. IR converts this into 150 armor
The 100 base armor becomes 110 armor.

Your total armor will be 260
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 01 2013 20:52 GMT
#4910
On February 02 2013 05:49 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 05:11 Tennet wrote:
How does EV/AR scaling on a hybrid chest work with IR? Including item mods and passives.


I believe the dev already explained that % armor doesn't apply to the armor that is converted by IR.

So if you have 50% bonus evasion, 10% bonus armor, and IR, and wear an armor with 100EV/100AR,

The 100 base evasion becomes 150 evasion. IR converts this into 150 armor
The 100 base armor becomes 110 armor.

Your total armor will be 260


So I can traipse my way through the passive skill tree picking up %evasion passives, then grab IR and I didn't waste those passives (assuming I'm wearing evasion gear?) that seems good.
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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
February 01 2013 20:53 GMT
#4911
On February 02 2013 05:49 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 05:11 Tennet wrote:
How does EV/AR scaling on a hybrid chest work with IR? Including item mods and passives.


I believe the dev already explained that % armor doesn't apply to the armor that is converted by IR.

So if you have 50% bonus evasion, 10% bonus armor, and IR, and wear an armor with 100EV/100AR,

The 100 base evasion becomes 150 evasion. IR converts this into 150 armor
The 100 base armor becomes 110 armor.

Your total armor will be 260

Ok, there are no cons for me to pick up IR then. Well time to try to trade my 5L chest for something with similar stats or something. Pretty impossible to get the colors I need on an AR chest, probably will be super easy with AR/EV chest.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 21:11:56
February 01 2013 21:06 GMT
#4912
I'm having trouble finding the source for that so I'm doing more sleuthing to confirm :x

Edit:

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/42605/filter-account-type/staff

Ok here it is. Essentially

Final armour = base armour * (1 + %armour) + base evasion * (1 + %armour + %evasion)

Also, leather and steel doesn't double-dip.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
February 01 2013 21:09 GMT
#4913
Thanks! It might be in the mechanics thread, but I'm not really sure where to look.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
February 01 2013 21:15 GMT
#4914
On February 02 2013 05:49 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 05:11 Tennet wrote:
How does EV/AR scaling on a hybrid chest work with IR? Including item mods and passives.


I believe the dev already explained that % armor doesn't apply to the armor that is converted by IR.

So if you have 50% bonus evasion, 10% bonus armor, and IR, and wear an armor with 100EV/100AR,

The 100 base evasion becomes 150 evasion. IR converts this into 150 armor
The 100 base armor becomes 110 armor.

Your total armor will be 260
That is not accurate. Armor does affect Evasion that is converted through IR.
Your Armor will be:
Armor * ( 1+ Increased Armor %) + Evasion * ( 1+ Increased armor % + Increased Evasion %)

Leather & Steel improves both Armor and Evasion, but won't improve Evasion twice when converted.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
February 01 2013 21:16 GMT
#4915
Yeah I stand corrected, but the formula I posted is the correct one.

Essentially from what I can gather

If you choose to wear pure-evasion gears, then %evasion and %armor will be equally good.
If you choose to wear evasion/armor hybrid, then %armor nodes does more for you than % evasion.

This is assuming you have iron reflex in the first place.


greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 21:42:10
February 01 2013 21:16 GMT
#4916
What's people's opinion on fire witches? I'm mid-cruel atm and just destroy everything in sight. Granted, I have searing touch but it still seems.. easy.

lolz, meant searing touch.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 01 2013 21:16 GMT
#4917
Oh wow. Thats... Really really strong then.

Time to make a beeline for IR.
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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
February 01 2013 21:20 GMT
#4918
On February 02 2013 06:16 Juicyfruit wrote:
Yeah I stand corrected, but the formula I posted is the correct one.

Essentially from what I can gather

If you choose to wear pure-evasion gears, then %evasion and %armor will be equally good.
If you choose to wear evasion/armor hybrid, then %armor nodes does more for you than % evasion.

This is assuming you have iron reflex in the first place.



That works perfectly for me since I have Body and Soul and eventually I will probably invest in some more armor nodes.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 01 2013 21:38 GMT
#4919
On February 02 2013 02:23 EchelonTee wrote:
For how much do you guys think I can sell a white 5L lvl 41 ES chest? softcore.


The itemlevel is more important than the required level. Last I checked 5L was selling for about 5 GCP, but these were map itemlevel (66+).

On February 02 2013 04:29 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 04:26 Sn0_Man wrote:
On February 02 2013 04:21 crms wrote:
On February 02 2013 04:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
On February 02 2013 04:16 EMIYA wrote:
fucking hell. died at level 28 on hardcore as shadow, to puncture apparently. i dont know how that damage works but i was desync and couldnt hit these snake things so i started running and my hp just went from full to zero regardless of pots




First HC death at 30 quite recently. Was sad. I just kinda ran into a bunch of white (maybe blue?) mobs in act 3 and asploded. Oops.


HC is a scary place. My first died at 14 in the boat to flicker skeletons lol.. bad build, bad play. My second is now 40 and still pushing forward. A few scares, 20hp on Piety and sub 100hp in Cruel Fetid pools vs the necro who raised a fuck load of rhoas and they charge chain stunned me.

Hardcore is really fun. ^^


Well yeah, my 2nd died at like level 9 in the jail. I was trying a bow ranger and discovered that its hard to kill the necromancers when they keep raising meat shields and I cant get close because then I get trapped in a room and raped

What I really need to do is stop solo-ing and group up


I know grouping is supposed to be better but I've been enjoying the challenge of playing Solo. Not really by choice though, I had a friend to duo with but he died at 28. I'm waiting for him to catch up and probably leveling a marauder in the meantime.

One question I have for anyone, how bad am I screwing myself over by doing everything solo? I know loot, xp etc. is way better in groups but I don't really want to pub. I'm currently lv40 in act1 cruel, just farming ledge right now until im confident to move forward.


You don't really screw yourself over by playing solo. You can progress more safely and faster in a party, but I don't think that is a reason to require it. I find it more fun to know that I soloed the entire game personally. When you start farming maps it is so much more efficient to party that you might want to reconsider this opinion though.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
February 01 2013 22:06 GMT
#4920
Anyone around 26-30 just starting Act iii on hardcore interested in playing a group tonight? My friend I try to play with keeps dodging for DotA 2 so I've been leveling slowly solo and its scary especially since I've never done Act iii before. PM or post if you're interest. Probably start in about 45 mins.
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