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rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 02:28:53
January 27 2013 02:28 GMT
#4121
I think something like sweep is the best for a melee, mobs always surround you, so you can just hold shift and sweep, no need to click on people. Same with Cleave as well i assume, but i mean look at the top 10 of both SC and HC, there's a lot Marauders in there. The 1st guy in Default was a marauder. So i think there are some annoyances with melee, but things aren't as bad as most people think, melee is still fun, specially dagger shadows, and sweep marauders. IMO anyways, food for thought!
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 03:10:44
January 27 2013 03:09 GMT
#4122
I have this buidl atm.
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUAAnEEsw9UFE0Z6SSLQT9Eck3YUeZYPVnzcql8u3zZgSuBb4TEinSMdpSHnjyexaIAqWisqrQvwBrewd-y5K33Mg==

I don't really know how to stun things. Am using heavy sttrike and Ground Slam. Where should I skill next? I hear this build is pretty bad and I should be ashamed of myself, but I hope stuns do help in PvP ; even though I can barely click on anything >.>


EDIT: How do I stun people? Is there a skill gem or something ? Haven't found anything about it.
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
January 27 2013 03:31 GMT
#4123
Link to the mechanics thread. Anything you need to know is here.
Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
January 27 2013 03:49 GMT
#4124
Question...as a shadow dagger, would flickerstrike and doublestrike be quicker if I got attackspeed? or is it a spell and would faster cast rate help it? Thanks!
Hark!
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
January 27 2013 04:25 GMT
#4125
On January 27 2013 11:18 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 11:12 travis wrote:
I regret being melee now. I hate how attacking stuff as melee works. It's so hard to actually click the monsters, it gives me a headache. I wish I was ranged and could just spam aoes. I hope they make it better.

Yes this is extremely annoying, hit boxes need severe improvement, as it is it becomes pretty frustrating to play wihout AoE attacks


The real question is why are you playing without AoE? The farming concept is still the same as in every other game. Pull big group > kill big group. Always faster with AoE.
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1338 Posts
January 27 2013 04:28 GMT
#4126
On January 27 2013 12:49 Deadlyhazard wrote:
Question...as a shadow dagger, would flickerstrike and doublestrike be quicker if I got attackspeed? or is it a spell and would faster cast rate help it? Thanks!


Double strike would be quicker with attack speed, flicker strike is affected by attack speed but it's more complicated.

Stuff like double/dual/heavy strike are all attacks, and therefore depend on attack speed and not cast speed. Flicker strike is in this category but has it's own cooldown to prevent abuse. You can get around this cooldown by expending a frenzy charge, a la blood rage.
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FlawlessFeeL
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada88 Posts
January 27 2013 04:35 GMT
#4127
You guys know that the top guy in the ladder right now is streaming? He's a ranger lvl 79 and his name is reimur . Go check out his stream at : http://twitch.tv/reimurs
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
January 27 2013 04:43 GMT
#4128
On January 27 2013 11:28 rebuffering wrote:
I think something like sweep is the best for a melee, mobs always surround you, so you can just hold shift and sweep, no need to click on people. Same with Cleave as well i assume, but i mean look at the top 10 of both SC and HC, there's a lot Marauders in there. The 1st guy in Default was a marauder. So i think there are some annoyances with melee, but things aren't as bad as most people think, melee is still fun, specially dagger shadows, and sweep marauders. IMO anyways, food for thought!



Sweep is one of the worst skills late game for various reasons. It forces you to take unwavering stance which basically turns you into a pincushion against arrow mobs late game.
Tilorn91
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia218 Posts
January 27 2013 05:39 GMT
#4129
I'm having so much fun with this game, but some things are still unclear to me. How is trading done in this game? Just got into A3, and the only items I have are the ones I got 15 levels ago. Also, am I the only one getting large black squares for textures?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
January 27 2013 05:48 GMT
#4130
On January 27 2013 13:25 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 11:18 mordk wrote:
On January 27 2013 11:12 travis wrote:
I regret being melee now. I hate how attacking stuff as melee works. It's so hard to actually click the monsters, it gives me a headache. I wish I was ranged and could just spam aoes. I hope they make it better.

Yes this is extremely annoying, hit boxes need severe improvement, as it is it becomes pretty frustrating to play wihout AoE attacks


The real question is why are you playing without AoE? The farming concept is still the same as in every other game. Pull big group > kill big group. Always faster with AoE.


in diablo 2 playing without AOE was completely reasonable
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3829 Posts
January 27 2013 05:53 GMT
#4131
On January 27 2013 14:39 Tilorn91 wrote:
I'm having so much fun with this game, but some things are still unclear to me. How is trading done in this game? Just got into A3, and the only items I have are the ones I got 15 levels ago. Also, am I the only one getting large black squares for textures?


After the first act ( level 20 or so) you'll want to start building your own items rather than just waiting for lucky finds (although you can indeed get some lucky finds)
Grab a base item with slots that you like, upgrade it to QL20 and then start using orbs to design it.
You probably dont need to waste too many materials on items until you get to lategame though, you'll just want things which are good, sometimes you'll get lucky and build yourself something killer
: o )
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 06:29:59
January 27 2013 06:14 GMT
#4132
On January 27 2013 14:53 ShloobeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 14:39 Tilorn91 wrote:
I'm having so much fun with this game, but some things are still unclear to me. How is trading done in this game? Just got into A3, and the only items I have are the ones I got 15 levels ago. Also, am I the only one getting large black squares for textures?


After the first act ( level 20 or so) you'll want to start building your own items rather than just waiting for lucky finds (although you can indeed get some lucky finds)
Grab a base item with slots that you like, upgrade it to QL20 and then start using orbs to design it.
You probably dont need to waste too many materials on items until you get to lategame though, you'll just want things which are good, sometimes you'll get lucky and build yourself something killer

Or you could buy some nice things for only 1-2 alchs instead of spending a ton of currency to craft. Trade chat is your friend, save crafting for end game where upgrades are expensive as hell.

Edit: I for one usually check the trade chat regularly for items. Look for good damage rolls on weapons (never underestimate a good weapon regardless of damage type (ele or physical) and regardless of your build till you get to higher levels), combination of main defense (health or ES depending on build/taste), secondary defense and resists. Don't forget to adjust for linked sockets, remember that Chromatic Orbs (rerolls the colors on sockets) are easy to get (just vendor a RGB linked item). Rings/amulets/belts can be tricky and expensive, these are the pieces that are the hardest to upgrade since they can have all types of stats so getting one that fits with your build with no redundancy is hard.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 06:18:47
January 27 2013 06:17 GMT
#4133
On January 27 2013 14:39 Tilorn91 wrote:
I'm having so much fun with this game, but some things are still unclear to me. How is trading done in this game? Just got into A3, and the only items I have are the ones I got 15 levels ago. Also, am I the only one getting large black squares for textures?


You can Trade for stuff that you need using Orbs as currency. This site has a general conversion for most the currencies http://hardcore.poeex.info/ (has a default league version as well). Most decent items go for around 1-2 Alchemical Orbs but you can get better deals if someone is clearing their inventory or if they simply don't know how much it should cost (pretty common while a lot of players are new). Really good rares/uniques can run you in the chaos orb-Gemcutter prism range but thats usually moreso levels 40+.

EDIT: ^ Ninja-d ;D.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 07:10:45
January 27 2013 06:34 GMT
#4134
God, how do you even design a build.. Have a 23? hardcore ranger atm, and have 18 skill points to spend, and I'm at the point in the game where i feel like I need to spend them to be safe, yet have 0 idea what to spend them on.

I mean it would take hours to try and figure out an optimal build or more >.<.

Edit: I mean I'm really enjoying the game but the min/maxer in me is gonna go crazy.
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
January 27 2013 06:46 GMT
#4135
On January 27 2013 12:09 Mondieu wrote:
I have this buidl atm.
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUAAnEEsw9UFE0Z6SSLQT9Eck3YUeZYPVnzcql8u3zZgSuBb4TEinSMdpSHnjyexaIAqWisqrQvwBrewd-y5K33Mg==

I don't really know how to stun things. Am using heavy sttrike and Ground Slam. Where should I skill next? I hear this build is pretty bad and I should be ashamed of myself, but I hope stuns do help in PvP ; even though I can barely click on anything >.>


EDIT: How do I stun people? Is there a skill gem or something ? Haven't found anything about it.

Stun happens whenever a target loses enough of it's health in one hit. Its called hit recovery in Diablo.

I don't know why you heard that that build was bad. It's maybe a little bit odd to start at the templar for that sort of build, but not really an issue I'd say.
Someone made a post talking about a really strong build that has the same main components in it as yours, except it was a marauder. It went on down the bottom and even to the bottom right corner (by like level 70 or something) to get "cannot be stunned", and Iron reflexes.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 27 2013 08:07 GMT
#4136
On January 27 2013 15:34 dae wrote:
God, how do you even design a build.. Have a 23? hardcore ranger atm, and have 18 skill points to spend, and I'm at the point in the game where i feel like I need to spend them to be safe, yet have 0 idea what to spend them on.

I mean it would take hours to try and figure out an optimal build or more >.<.

Edit: I mean I'm really enjoying the game but the min/maxer in me is gonna go crazy.


What kind of ranger are you playing physical/crit/ele bow or some melee variant?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
January 27 2013 08:09 GMT
#4137
Is there any easier way to grab skill gems than running through the game a dozen times? >_<
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taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
January 27 2013 08:11 GMT
#4138
On January 27 2013 17:09 Southlight wrote:
Is there any easier way to grab skill gems than running through the game a dozen times? >_<


find and trade for em, what do you need? i have a lot of common ones on hc
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
January 27 2013 08:12 GMT
#4139
Buy them in Trade chat. Most of them are quite cheap unless you're looking for either a 10+% Quality version or something like Chain, Lesser Multiple Projectiles, etc. that tend to run higher.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
January 27 2013 08:22 GMT
#4140
On January 27 2013 17:07 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 15:34 dae wrote:
God, how do you even design a build.. Have a 23? hardcore ranger atm, and have 18 skill points to spend, and I'm at the point in the game where i feel like I need to spend them to be safe, yet have 0 idea what to spend them on.

I mean it would take hours to try and figure out an optimal build or more >.<.

Edit: I mean I'm really enjoying the game but the min/maxer in me is gonna go crazy.


What kind of ranger are you playing physical/crit/ele bow or some melee variant?


This is my first character, and I've just been using a bow with w/e skills I've gotten.
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