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On January 22 2013 08:52 travis wrote:
ok new question
how high do the stat requirements get for leveling up skills, and how fast do those requirements go up
is it feasible to use something like lightning strike with say a witch or a shadow that is mostly about intelligence/dexterity passives?
It completely depends on the skill how the requirements increase. You can find most of them at the wikipedia for path of exile:
http://en.pathofexilewiki.com/wiki/Skill_Gems#Gems
As for lightning strike the skill is gonna change significantly, when open beta starts (according to the old leaked patch-notes) so I would not calculate too much on that single gem. Anyway: I have a level 38 witch that can use almost all strenght and dexterity gems at maxed level, you just have to take the passive basic stats or use amulets etc to boost them!
Edit: As for CI it is another thing slated for a change in open beta (a slight nerf) and on the other hand new passives will make energy shield stronger again. It is frankly impossible to tell how the changes are gonna effect the gameplay without testing it out.
The official patch-notes are being worked on by Chris atm. so today or tomorrow we can see the more exact changes.
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On January 22 2013 08:52 travis wrote:ok new question how high do the stat requirements get for leveling up skills, and how fast do those requirements go up is it feasible to use something like lightning strike with say a witch or a shadow that is mostly about intelligence/dexterity passives? edit: found the answer for myself http://en.pathofexilewiki.com/wiki/Lightning_Strikeit seems like.. it could remotely be reasonable to get enough strength to max level lightning strike but focus on evade and energy shield for defense? also, just how good is chaos innoculation?
CI is very good and is rightfully so getting a slight nerf in open beta. But there is some builds where you got 20k ES
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On January 22 2013 07:24 travis wrote:
ok so i nthat case steel skin is completely worthless if you have only evasion?
man this is confusing i tried to research this but everyone is saying different stuff If you have Iron Reflexes, Evasion is increased by both Evasion and Armor passives, and then converted to Armor. You might think this makes Evasion gear strictly better than Armor, but there are other factors to consider.
1- Hybrid Evasion/Armor gear has more total stats than a single evasion or armor piece.
2- Evasion gear is much more likely to have green sockets, while hybrid Evasion/Armor is just as likely to have red or green.
3- A stat can only roll on its corresponding armor. i.e. Evasion armors cannot roll strength, but hybrid can roll both strength or dex.
As for stat requirements, it is really easy for a shadow to meet all requirements, but it is really hard and kind of a waste for a CI build to get strength. I also think that CI is being reworked at the moment. They are definitely reworking something major, we just don't know what (could be leech, could be CI, could be Eldritch Battery and Blood Magic, maybe a new melee mechanic...).
On January 22 2013 06:31 AKRW wrote:
How much extra life and percentage should a build aim for what do you think? You can go as low as +100% max life in softcore as long as you have capped resists and a good defense mechanism on top (ES, minions, endurance charge + armor, maybe block + evasion + arrow dodge + leech, one of those). Ideally, by level 70, about when you can do maps, (~90 skill points), you would be closer to +200% max life, shooting for +250% if you're close-mid range HC.
@startran , once you use the physical nodes, even if you convert to elemental because it is OP, you always have the option of going pure physical. Change a few gems and some gear, and you're there. It is weaker at the moment, but is more versatile, and I just don't like pure elemental builds. Well, I don't mind them, but I hate WED with a passion. And the Leech Life gem that doesn't rely on physical somehow and has a really high %.
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On January 22 2013 08:52 travis wrote:ok new question how high do the stat requirements get for leveling up skills, and how fast do those requirements go up is it feasible to use something like lightning strike with say a witch or a shadow that is mostly about intelligence/dexterity passives? edit: found the answer for myself http://en.pathofexilewiki.com/wiki/Lightning_Strikeit seems like.. it could remotely be reasonable to get enough strength to max level lightning strike but focus on evade and energy shield for defense? also, just how good is chaos innoculation?
Yeah its possible to use lightning strike even on a shadow if you build with it in mind, you could go for some of the +str passives, or plan for strength from gear, or that unique amulet that gives like +100 to all attributes. Keep in mind the starting req for lightning strike isnt very much strength so you could just level the gem as you got the necessary strength to keep it as high as possible. To use it on a shadow or witch would be more of a stretch than other chars but definitely still possible if you wanted to.
I think CI gets nerfed some in the open beta patch, not much numerically but just requires a couple more passive pts invested to get the same thing. CI lets you get a bigger health pool by a good amount with the drawback of getting frozen for a long time by cold crits since the freeze duration is based off the cold damage in relation to your max hp. Its been very strong and seems like its still going to be strong though.
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On January 22 2013 10:03 Benjamin99 wrote:
Best ARPG I ever played. Yes Im going to say its better then d2. Bought a silver pack just to say how much I appreciate a fantastic ARPG game made by a small company
Yeah me too. Bought one of the packs recently even though its free soon because I was playing it on my friends account and felt i needed to give them something. I'm not even THAT much of a fan of the game but I wanted to reward them somehow, and I don't think I'll ever buy any of the cosmetic stuff in the real deal.
I'm probably the only one who feels this way but one of the issues with the game that i never got used to for some reason was the FOV and angle of the camera. It almost made me feel sick sometimes. I thought I'd get used to it but never did, lol.
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Flicker strike spiders with more damage are scary! Thankfully I apparently have so much cold resist that even having ele weakness doesn't uncap it and the map has added cold on top of the more damage.. they are painful though and it sucks when there is 5 or more.
Guess I should start using a granite or two..
Okay, got past the spiders after some stupid stuff. I continued clearing the map and stuff is just melting then firefox crashes and lags me to the point where i can't do anything and I die again vs mobs that should be dead in like 8 seconds. *insert rage expression here*
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On January 22 2013 10:03 Benjamin99 wrote:Best ARPG I ever played. Yes Im going to say its better then d2. Bought a silver pack just to say how much I appreciate a fantastic ARPG game made by a small company Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 08:52 travis wrote:ok new question how high do the stat requirements get for leveling up skills, and how fast do those requirements go up is it feasible to use something like lightning strike with say a witch or a shadow that is mostly about intelligence/dexterity passives? edit: found the answer for myself http://en.pathofexilewiki.com/wiki/Lightning_Strikeit seems like.. it could remotely be reasonable to get enough strength to max level lightning strike but focus on evade and energy shield for defense? also, just how good is chaos innoculation? CI is very good and is rightfully so getting a slight nerf in open beta. But there is some builds where you got 20k ES
20k ES was with decent gear. With insane gear you easily go well over that.
CI is still going to be absurdly powerful simply because CI builds just have to shave some clearing speed for the same survivability as before. Most damage still comes from cast spd + links + proper gems.
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Okay, I need to stop sucking, aka stop doing maps with stuff I can't handle very well yet.
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Been playing the game casually on and off for more than a year now. Its so fun, but when open beta hits I need to find some peeps to play with!
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Anyone on softcore want to run fellshrine with me? Been too greedy on maps so I'm back here since it's more efficient until I get better gear and more lvl 60 maps.
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A lot of critical damage + movement speed and low elemental resist would be very hard on gear. Especially in merciless, where you get a hefty penalty to resistance.
I would say we are at a 5!
Not unplayable, with the good amount of life but the build is gonna get slammed by nasty cold, lightning and fire damage mobs without some very serious resistance on gear.
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I see what you trying to do Travis and is a build that can work and many new players tend to do builds like that. ill give it the score 4-5:D. But is not really optimised. However I played this game for 9months now so I got alot of experience optimising builds:D.
So you want a crit ranger duel leech build using claws with alot of movement speed and vaal pact.
So lets think about it for a sec. We need very high hp since when you take vaal pact you cant use potions. So we need enough hp to take alot of dmg when range mobs shoot us and before we can get in range and start leeching. We also need a defensive ability like evasion or high armor or maybe energy shield. And most important thing is we want as much physical dmg we can possible get so we leech more.
As you can see we don't got access to many mana nodes that you going to need for you skills so thats why is very smart for high HP characters to use blood magic.(blood magic is a big passive keystone that make you use you life instead of mana for skills)
You want something like this:
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIAm40ILhmO7YPTfjWSTsjuDlb6dEGkwhR1Ou3B2A6tKaX8xWegh3ZKfRrb-WPnVCT91QC95j7PUUczDP4rGdX_3o2_BbW0xUBVb1cMjQ1JDPKlyzY9iGvjhMBRcNVwUvPqDkgRlp2j_KvQOe-g7XZqfhX91gdnHud0D6th4m1stUg9ZZKAeUghA7t8ZfGquKp_hxm3FziWbXtVSyaVtvcRL5ma62MX2F76sbPtQd0NOrM1hrnNnaos6RUgKk0_J26qrpMqOLXyqW54DVivNug6Ut-_3vikeMHV8NlJO3J-
This build is very similar to a duelist claw leech build I played until lvl 70 on HC.
As you can see we go for many life nodes and physical dmg nodes. Also we take Iron reflexes and blood magic. Iron reflexes will transform all you evasion into armor so you basically can get more armor then the Marauder/templar tanks. Also we will be using blood magic for you skills. We could use a blood magic support gem to also do the trick and then use our mana for auras.
You main aoe skills will be lighting strike with chain and leech and you single target high burst leech skill will be dual strike
You also want rings and amulets with leech
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On January 22 2013 13:04 Whiplash wrote:
Been playing the game casually on and off for more than a year now. Its so fun, but when open beta hits I need to find some peeps to play with!
we should really make a TL clan could be so much fun:D
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I'm willing to trade a HOTS key for a PoE beta key. Itching to play asap lol
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Open beta starts tomorrow... Why would you trade now?
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I'm impatient and need to get rid of an extra key lol
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noticed you can already download and install the game when i received the mail
i'm ready now, can't wait
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On January 22 2013 15:27 PhoenixDark wrote:
I'm impatient and need to get rid of an extra key lol
Everything is getting wiped though so anything you do over the next 38 hours is just going to disappear.
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On January 22 2013 15:15 PhoenixDark wrote:
I'm willing to trade a HOTS key for a PoE beta key. Itching to play asap lol
sent you a key
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