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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 04 2018 17:47 GMT
#28561
"free" 30% life/es cost more spell dmg
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10717 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-04 17:55:53
June 04 2018 17:53 GMT
#28562
Hm... I will give rf a shot.

Hierofant is so bonkers... No clue how they tought this ascendancy will be "fine".
2 points? Sure have endless power and endurance charges and on top lower enemy resists... Wtf.

But i would need to vaal RF myself i guess? That still leaves room for another totem .
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-04 18:10:15
June 04 2018 18:00 GMT
#28563
League itself is good so far, but my first build is crashing non stop so I had to do a new one since I didn't want to swap from my Storm Burst CWC Ball Lightning to something else (I figured out Ball Lightning with GMP was the thing that causes APPCRASH every few minutes for me)... the problem first appeared when fighting Kitava, wish it would've happened earlier
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 04 2018 18:15 GMT
#28564
On June 05 2018 02:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
"free" 30% life/es cost more spell dmg

It only not free for people that don't use life flasks AND don't have good life regen. Vaal pact people usually don't play spell builds.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-05 04:11:37
June 05 2018 03:57 GMT
#28565
Not sure how I'm feeling about arc traps. It's unquestionably strong as fuck which is cool, but I don't know if I'm feeling the playstyle. Also Vaal Arc itself is unexciting and doesn't affect the playstyle, just a guaranteed shock on tanky mobs. I wanted a Vaal skill to actually use/abuse with all the changes.

Might try that VBA build that was floating around in the last few pages.

Also with the sextant changes last league and now the elder ring nerf this league is there any reason to do janky shit with your atlas anymore or do I just faceroll everything hmm
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 05 2018 08:58 GMT
#28566
On June 05 2018 03:00 HolydaKing wrote:
League itself is good so far, but my first build is crashing non stop so I had to do a new one since I didn't want to swap from my Storm Burst CWC Ball Lightning to something else (I figured out Ball Lightning with GMP was the thing that causes APPCRASH every few minutes for me)... the problem first appeared when fighting Kitava, wish it would've happened earlier

Turned of multithreading, seems to work fine now. Tried other settings like Dx9 and post processing before that and they just made the crashes less frequent. Char is pretty fun and strong so I did not want to give up just yet. Got this tip from someone else, should've tried meddling with graphic options earlier. That said, it's not even a laggy build (especially compared to what I've played before) so idk.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-05 10:44:06
June 05 2018 10:41 GMT
#28567
I get low frames with the game here and there. Probably not a good idea to watch streams at same time as playing PoE with my now old computer (i5 4690 and GTX 960).
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
June 05 2018 12:47 GMT
#28568
On June 05 2018 19:41 -Archangel- wrote:
I get low frames with the game here and there. Probably not a good idea to watch streams at same time as playing PoE with my now old computer (i5 4690 and GTX 960).

I get low frames with GTX1080 if I put on a stream on the other monitor. It's smooth for all the newer titles, so I'm pretty sure it's the game and not the computer.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1556 Posts
June 05 2018 13:33 GMT
#28569
I can't watch a stream on the side in a browser, but it works fine when opening the stream in VLC. Check out livestreamer and/or Sreamlink Twitch GUI.

Into red maps with arc totems with brightbeak and barely any damage on gear, and it's still a cakewalk. Bosses take several seconds now, but then you pop Vaal Arc, RF, Cold Snap on top and it's fine again.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 05 2018 15:48 GMT
#28570
6linked my quill rain, replaced amulet with eye of innocence, and one of my rings with the mokou embrace, and a wed quiver. I'm now comfortably killing t14-15 bosses (haven't had a t16 drop yet), did 2 red elders and they were cake walks. I think for uber elder I'll need rear guard and red nightmare, but that's a little way off yet. More confident then ever that this character can farm uber elder.

Just need about 40% more chaos res, and I'll be laughing in incursions too.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
June 05 2018 15:58 GMT
#28571
On June 06 2018 00:48 bo1b wrote:
6linked my quill rain, replaced amulet with eye of innocence, and one of my rings with the mokou embrace, and a wed quiver. I'm now comfortably killing t14-15 bosses (haven't had a t16 drop yet), did 2 red elders and they were cake walks. I think for uber elder I'll need rear guard and red nightmare, but that's a little way off yet. More confident then ever that this character can farm uber elder.

Just need about 40% more chaos res, and I'll be laughing in incursions too.

The most appealing part about it when I checked the PoB was the life tbh. Getting that kind of dps out of like 240% life on tree? VBA that good lol? I'm really curious to try it. I'm also light on bow experience so it'd be relatively fresh. Arc traps are just a bit too snooze right now.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 05 2018 16:03 GMT
#28572
This is explosive arrow, vba is significantly stronger but requires far more investment then I was comfortable with day 1. EA works like that because it's closer to a spell then it is an attack, and therefor levels is the biggest increase in damage.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-05 16:16:59
June 05 2018 16:13 GMT
#28573
Oh shit you're right, I remember there being discussion about VBA but then didn't look close enough at the actual PoB setup. Just transitioning into VBA later then or does the tree change around a bit? Expensive because of specific uniques or just needs an overall high level of gear to start scaling right

Repost the pob when you get a chance, if anything's changed. I coincidentally dropped a quill rain and some leveling gear last night, which I took as a sign lol. Feelin the game way more this league than 3.2/Flashback
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-05 16:49:55
June 05 2018 16:46 GMT
#28574
The two ways to scale EA damage is either ignite focused, or explosion focused. I haven't done the math on whether explosion focused can come close to ignite focused, but perhaps with ele focus and enough reduced duration it could. The practical result of this then, means that scaling ignites is the only real way to scale ea into a viable end game spec. This is definitely doable, but the only affixes on gear that affect the ignite damage (not including uniques) are: fire damage, weapon elemental damage.

In comparison, the following all affect the burning arrow ignite: added flat phys, added flat fire, %increased physical, %increased fire, %increase wed. Getting items with 1-2 well rolled affixes (in this case %increased fire and wed) is significantly easier - a 36 wed ring with 70 life and 80 res is obtainable for most mortals, in comparison a 36 wed ring, with 70 life, 80 res, and 15 flat phys will set you back several ex.

The way that EA scales is significantly more shallow (100% damage effectiveness) than BA (184% damage effectiveness), yet a level 20 gem of it has the base damage of 586-879, meaning that it will work well enough even though it can't get all that much better. To get 586-879 flat damage would mean you'd need enough flat damage on your bow to reach: 318.5 - 477.7. That amount of flat damage is no joke, nearly 400 flat damage on average, so in order to bump up your non mirror tier weapon you need to get a shitload of flat phys/fire on your amulets/rings/gloves/quiver, while maintaining the same amount of wed that you'd have on other pieces of gear. The end result is a stupidly expensive set of gear which is simply not attainable on day one, to get to where EA is naturally.

This is my current POB, keep in mind that my flasks still haven't been fixed, and that I'm running gmp instead of burning damage for end game bossing atm, on a quill rain instead of a +3 fire bow. https://pastebin.com/L0GeCemq
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 05 2018 16:47 GMT
#28575
On June 06 2018 00:48 bo1b wrote:
6linked my quill rain, replaced amulet with eye of innocence, and one of my rings with the mokou embrace, and a wed quiver. I'm now comfortably killing t14-15 bosses (haven't had a t16 drop yet), did 2 red elders and they were cake walks. I think for uber elder I'll need rear guard and red nightmare, but that's a little way off yet. More confident then ever that this character can farm uber elder.

Just need about 40% more chaos res, and I'll be laughing in incursions too.

Since you ignored my previous comments let me ask again. How do you leech life and survive incoming damage? Is 8000 life enough without another layer of defense?

With blink arrow having a cooldown I guess you rely on quicksilver? Why eye of innocence?
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-05 16:51:00
June 05 2018 16:48 GMT
#28576
On June 05 2018 02:16 Velr wrote:
Any ideas for a second vaal spell i could run with totems? Searching for something to help on bosses. Atm i got a vaal stormcall but i doubt its effective (but raoning thunderbolts are). I only got the 3 lightning nodes for crackling speed all else is pure totem/spell.


Not sure exactly what your build is exactly, but if you're a generic lightning build and won't evaporate near the boss Impurity of X could be helpful (unless you're routinely getting into effective negative resists) and can reduce damage of X element by up to ~ 50%.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-05 17:08:13
June 05 2018 16:51 GMT
#28577
On June 06 2018 01:47 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2018 00:48 bo1b wrote:
6linked my quill rain, replaced amulet with eye of innocence, and one of my rings with the mokou embrace, and a wed quiver. I'm now comfortably killing t14-15 bosses (haven't had a t16 drop yet), did 2 red elders and they were cake walks. I think for uber elder I'll need rear guard and red nightmare, but that's a little way off yet. More confident then ever that this character can farm uber elder.

Just need about 40% more chaos res, and I'll be laughing in incursions too.

Since you ignored my previous comments let me ask again. How do you leech life and survive incoming damage? Is 8000 life enough without another layer of defense?

With blink arrow having a cooldown I guess you rely on quicksilver? Why eye of innocence?

My apologies, I didn't see.

Eye of innocence gives me 2% life leech while ignited, combined with mokous embrace and I'm always ignited. For the hardest boss fights I think I'd have to go rear guard with a red nightmare and rumis. 8000 life with block cap, 1k life regen, and life leeching my entire hp pool every time I attack is plenty of defence.

For what it's worth, a t13 elder on a 5 link (using gmp, effectively a 4 link) was easy enough, His hardest hit took me to about 3k hp, which regened 2 seconds later. The most dangerous part of the fight for ea is the tentacles at the very end after protecting the shaper, which is where block would shine.

I just read your question regarding a +3 bow, you get that by using shrieking essences of rage on a ilvl 50 bow, hoping it has a free prefix and suffix (annul is an option here), crafting "cannot roll attack mods", and then exalting. Then craft attack speed/leo damage over time.

Regarding accuracy, that's a matter of me improving my ring/glove and replacing the quiver I have with an accuracy base. When I do that I'll be around 85-90%. Keep in mind, when you attack 5 times a second, sometimes attacking a 6th time is not a huge drama.

Unfortunately I leave my computer for a month and a bit in a week or so, but if I get the opportunity I'm hoping to record an uber elder kill and put together something on the forums for the build. I believe it's incredibly strong defensively, really good for general mapping, and potentially a good uber elder farmer. I don't think there is a single piece of content it can't do reliably, at this stage.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
June 05 2018 17:14 GMT
#28578
Are there any new quality of life overlays/plugins aside from the AHK trade macro? I've heard about this mercury trade thing and wonder if anyone has experience using it.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-05 17:21:46
June 05 2018 17:19 GMT
#28579
I actually tried MercuryTrade last league when I was doing a lot of uber lab farming. It's extremely useful in theory and not too difficult to set up / customize to your liking, but I had a noticeably weird affect on performance when the overlay was running. Enough to abandon it. Maybe it depends on fullscreen vs window/borderless vs who knows what. Your mileage may vary, and it's probably worth giving a shot, but watch for weird frame/refresh rate issues. Maybe they've since been fixed too. I'm not doing enough trading these days to warrant checking to see if it's been improved.

Currency Cop is also a cool little program to track your net worth and profits over time and such. It's not an overlay, it's external to the game and works off your character profile, but I liked it a lot. Sometimes it's nice to know how much those "messier" tabs are really worth like div cards, essences, maps, etc. It helped me find a few cases where I had valuable cards lying around that I forgot to price check in a hurry and lost track of (especially since I keep my div tab on "full stacks only")
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
June 05 2018 20:31 GMT
#28580
Thanks! I will try those out.
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