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TheTenthDoc

United States9561 Posts

June 02 2018 04:39 GMT

#28521

I think this league is...a ton of fun? Screwing up the first few incursions really stinks, though, since it ruins your first temple more or less. Once you get rolling it feels really cool to shape the temple (even if I can already see people getting frustrated with the RNG very quickly). I think the increased mob density as you level also really helps make the door keys drop, I find way more in A3 than I did earlier.

-Archangel-

Croatia7457 Posts

June 02 2018 12:21 GMT

#28522

I find it fun for now although it is slowing down my leveling :D
I am just lacking those keys, even in act 3 they don't always fall even when I clear it fast.

Duvon

Sweden2360 Posts

June 02 2018 17:45 GMT

#28523

Im only in act two but been having a ton of trouble keeping the incursions open long enough to get a bosskill when they are in a corner. So freaking much hp

Gorsameth

Netherlands21698 Posts

June 02 2018 18:15 GMT

#28524

Its hard early when your not clearing (and running) fast. Where possible I would focus on trying to open a path to the end boss for his items which can be crazy.
And try to get a Demolition Room if it shows up. they let you break open a door (per level of the room I think).

TheTenthDoc

United States9561 Posts

June 02 2018 21:45 GMT

#28525

This league does do more DPS-checking than any league prior (the mobs feel tankier than the wet tissue paper of Breach mobs, anyway, and the incursion rares are tanky as hell). It can be really frustrating if you have a slower-scaling build, and the first few incursions are probably always gonna be crappy barring twink gear. It helps a lot once you get enough defenses to ignore the bosses (who seem to have like 3 telegraphed moves total).

Once you ramp up, though, it's a lot of fun. Looking forward to maps.

r.Evo

Germany14080 Posts

June 03 2018 02:32 GMT

#28526

Best league since Invasion. Or Perandus. Not sure.

Getting destroyed is only a matter of time and most likely a result of your own greed. Also everything I have seen so far is well telegraphed which is a huge plus as well.

PS: Chaos res is love.
PPS: I just realized why Uberdan is playing Scion with his trapper. Not for any crap like Chieftain or Elementalist but for Necro to get maxblock with bone offering. Sneaky.

Duka08

3391 Posts

June 03 2018 04:19 GMT

#28527

Anyone doing the traps vs mines debate have an updated opinion after playing a bit now? I just got back from the weekend and haven't kept up with anything. Still doing arc saboteur just don't know how yet. Also seeing the tree changes in PoB for the first time too.

r.Evo

Germany14080 Posts

June 03 2018 06:08 GMT

#28528

On June 03 2018 13:19 Duka08 wrote:
Anyone doing the traps vs mines debate have an updated opinion after playing a bit now? I just got back from the weekend and haven't kept up with anything. Still doing arc saboteur just don't know how yet. Also seeing the tree changes in PoB for the first time too.

Arc Traps > Lightning traps. Less lag, cleaner pack clear, more singletarget. Add Spire and it's gg.

e: Oh you were asking about mines. I haven't seen any of the top players play mines so far so not sure.

Duka08

3391 Posts

June 03 2018 06:11 GMT

#28529

I'm leveling with traps just because they're fotm at the moment but wasn't sure about the pros and cons of arc mines vs traps in the long term for mapping/bossing. I assume mines is probably better damage while traps is quicker / more fun clear. Will probably try both. Was just curious.

Is lightning spire more of a damage boost / supplement for single target rather than a main skill? That sounds fun. Like this builds version of a warchief totem.

bo1b

Australia12814 Posts

June 03 2018 08:17 GMT

#28530

Ok, there is a setup with >500k dps for ignites on shaper/elder, with 8k hp for ea, requires level 94, and doesn't have unrealistic gear, in fact the jewels are 1c a pop, and suck ass for that matter.

-Archangel-

Croatia7457 Posts

June 03 2018 11:09 GMT

#28531

On June 03 2018 15:08 r.Evo wrote:

Show nested quote +

Winds is killing red elder with arc mines

-Archangel-

Croatia7457 Posts

June 03 2018 11:11 GMT

#28532

On June 03 2018 17:17 bo1b wrote:
Ok, there is a setup with >500k dps for ignites on shaper/elder, with 8k hp for ea, requires level 94, and doesn't have unrealistic gear, in fact the jewels are 1c a pop, and suck ass for that matter.

Post pob for it

How good would the clear be?

I tried clearing incursions with Fireball+ignite prolif and prolif has such a pathetic aoe. I think Ignite is a fail more because of lack of AoE clear. So the dps is not even the worst problem atm.

bo1b

Australia12814 Posts

June 03 2018 12:27 GMT

#28533

Aoe is excellent, it's a quillrain gmp ea build. Only time you'd ever switch away from that would be to kill super healthy bosses, like guardians/shaper/elder. So in that case, a +3 fire bow is the ideal choice, and quite easy to get. Here's the pob for it, some things are still being improved, my jewels are attrocious.

https://pastebin.com/Lci5k8aR

1 thing to note is that I've unticked elemental equilibrium, and manually modified enemy fire res down by 50%, as the interaction with ea and ignite and pob is wonky.

WaveofShadow

Canada31494 Posts

June 03 2018 12:39 GMT

#28534

On June 03 2018 11:32 r.Evo wrote:
Best league since Invasion. Or Perandus. Not sure.

Getting destroyed is only a matter of time and most likely a result of your own greed. Also everything I have seen so far is well telegraphed which is a huge plus as well.

PS: Chaos res is love.
PPS: I just realized why Uberdan is playing Scion with his trapper. Not for any crap like Chieftain or Elementalist but for Necro to get maxblock with bone offering. Sneaky.

Worth coming back again for?
Hmmm.

bo1b

Australia12814 Posts

June 03 2018 12:46 GMT

#28535

This is an excellent league, with imo excellent balance changes, and even though the power creep is solid I still think the overall direction of the game is now pointing the best way it has for a long time.

Velr

Switzerland10717 Posts

June 03 2018 13:07 GMT

#28536

Doing arc-totems and i'm just before Maps now.

League is fun... But i got that vaalflask from the Boss 4 times now -.-.

bo1b

Australia12814 Posts

June 03 2018 13:10 GMT

#28537

Telling you to go vaal fireball 4 times now

r.Evo

Germany14080 Posts

June 03 2018 15:17 GMT

#28538

But you tell everyone to go vaal fireball.

ThaddeusK

United States231 Posts

June 03 2018 15:44 GMT

#28539

Arc is stupid good right now, literally anything with arc in it is gonna be able to do everything in the game. That said, lightning spire trap is really good single target so I think that traps are the best balance of clear speed and bossing potential if you are looking for a single character to do everything. Mines are probably better single target, tho, because mine support still has its more multiplier and you can prolly still use lightning spire traps as a miner if you want.

bo1b

Australia12814 Posts

June 03 2018 15:44 GMT

#28540

I dont see a o=problem with that