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Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
June 07 2018 07:36 GMT
#28601
Quick Temple of Atzoatl question - previously I'd only picked up the T1 map room, which IIRC only gave me maps I'd unlocked. Do the T2/T3 map rooms simply give more maps, or maps you haven't unlocked, or uniques, or ...? Wondering if I should quickly unlock some red maps before harvesting it, eh.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 07:44:19
June 07 2018 07:42 GMT
#28602
T2 map room have 2 map chests and T3 rooms have 3 I think, and one of the T3 room chest drops Sextants as well. Something like that. Anyway, you can get at least a T1 map room in like every Temple so I expect sustaining maps to be the easiest since like Ambush league. Plus the mobs in the temple itself also drop maps, it's quite insane.
Only unlocking unknown maps was probably easier during Harbinger league
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 07 2018 07:50 GMT
#28603
On June 07 2018 15:24 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2018 00:58 Duka08 wrote:
On June 06 2018 00:48 bo1b wrote:
6linked my quill rain, replaced amulet with eye of innocence, and one of my rings with the mokou embrace, and a wed quiver. I'm now comfortably killing t14-15 bosses (haven't had a t16 drop yet), did 2 red elders and they were cake walks. I think for uber elder I'll need rear guard and red nightmare, but that's a little way off yet. More confident then ever that this character can farm uber elder.

Just need about 40% more chaos res, and I'll be laughing in incursions too.

The most appealing part about it when I checked the PoB was the life tbh. Getting that kind of dps out of like 240% life on tree? VBA that good lol? I'm really curious to try it. I'm also light on bow experience so it'd be relatively fresh. Arc traps are just a bit too snooze right now.

Hey bo1b when is it safe to transition from leveling into something like what you've got. I have no experience with ignite or explosive arrow and just slapped together some quick bow leveling shit tonight and got to 40ish but don't know when it's safe to respec and invest hard in the fire damage nodes and such and switch to EA. At the rate I'm at I could probably make it all the way to maps on my twink gear but idk, don't want to accidentally fuck myself

You certainly don't want to do it until you can use quill rain and can make sure you got close to 100% chance to ignite.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 08:06:21
June 07 2018 08:04 GMT
#28604
On June 07 2018 15:24 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2018 00:58 Duka08 wrote:
On June 06 2018 00:48 bo1b wrote:
6linked my quill rain, replaced amulet with eye of innocence, and one of my rings with the mokou embrace, and a wed quiver. I'm now comfortably killing t14-15 bosses (haven't had a t16 drop yet), did 2 red elders and they were cake walks. I think for uber elder I'll need rear guard and red nightmare, but that's a little way off yet. More confident then ever that this character can farm uber elder.

Just need about 40% more chaos res, and I'll be laughing in incursions too.

The most appealing part about it when I checked the PoB was the life tbh. Getting that kind of dps out of like 240% life on tree? VBA that good lol? I'm really curious to try it. I'm also light on bow experience so it'd be relatively fresh. Arc traps are just a bit too snooze right now.

Hey bo1b when is it safe to transition from leveling into something like what you've got. I have no experience with ignite or explosive arrow and just slapped together some quick bow leveling shit tonight and got to 40ish but don't know when it's safe to respec and invest hard in the fire damage nodes and such and switch to EA. At the rate I'm at I could probably make it all the way to maps on my twink gear but idk, don't want to accidentally fuck myself

I would advise levelling as flameblast totems until about level 70, when you have a 5link quill rain on hand. At that point I'd set my talent tree up to be like this: http://poeurl.com/bXzm

This will feel horrible until you get your explosive arrow up some levels by the way. I can't state that enough, the explosive arrow has to be at an appropriate level or you'll do no damage.

@Arch, yeh I mean you leech it over the course of 5 seconds, moving around with one quicksilver flask of adrenaline is enough for me, 150ish% movespeed isn't too bad imo. That said, I have played the qotf zoom zoom build before.

On June 07 2018 16:42 HolydaKing wrote:
T2 map room have 2 map chests and T3 rooms have 3 I think, and one of the T3 room chest drops Sextants as well. Something like that. Anyway, you can get at least a T1 map room in like every Temple so I expect sustaining maps to be the easiest since like Ambush league. Plus the mobs in the temple itself also drop maps, it's quite insane.
Only unlocking unknown maps was probably easier during Harbinger league

t3 room is not guaranteed to drop sextants, I've gotten sextants from a t1 room.

On that note, the ilvl of the temple seems to take an average range of what maps you are doing and choose the highest level. So make sure you run a t16 if you get a map room, especially a t3 map room.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 07 2018 09:19 GMT
#28605
On June 07 2018 17:04 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2018 15:24 Duka08 wrote:
On June 06 2018 00:58 Duka08 wrote:
On June 06 2018 00:48 bo1b wrote:
6linked my quill rain, replaced amulet with eye of innocence, and one of my rings with the mokou embrace, and a wed quiver. I'm now comfortably killing t14-15 bosses (haven't had a t16 drop yet), did 2 red elders and they were cake walks. I think for uber elder I'll need rear guard and red nightmare, but that's a little way off yet. More confident then ever that this character can farm uber elder.

Just need about 40% more chaos res, and I'll be laughing in incursions too.

The most appealing part about it when I checked the PoB was the life tbh. Getting that kind of dps out of like 240% life on tree? VBA that good lol? I'm really curious to try it. I'm also light on bow experience so it'd be relatively fresh. Arc traps are just a bit too snooze right now.

Hey bo1b when is it safe to transition from leveling into something like what you've got. I have no experience with ignite or explosive arrow and just slapped together some quick bow leveling shit tonight and got to 40ish but don't know when it's safe to respec and invest hard in the fire damage nodes and such and switch to EA. At the rate I'm at I could probably make it all the way to maps on my twink gear but idk, don't want to accidentally fuck myself

I would advise levelling as flameblast totems until about level 70, when you have a 5link quill rain on hand. At that point I'd set my talent tree up to be like this: http://poeurl.com/bXzm

This will feel horrible until you get your explosive arrow up some levels by the way. I can't state that enough, the explosive arrow has to be at an appropriate level or you'll do no damage.

@Arch, yeh I mean you leech it over the course of 5 seconds, moving around with one quicksilver flask of adrenaline is enough for me, 150ish% movespeed isn't too bad imo. That said, I have played the qotf zoom zoom build before.

Sorry for all these crazy questions but I am considering switching my Fireball/Flameblast ignite Trickster to this once I reach harder red maps and end game. Currently clearing maps with Fireball and doing hard boss fights (temple boss/izaro) with flameblast works well, fireball especially lets me clear super fast in combination with shield charge.
So I hope when I would switch that I can keep the fast clear play style that is fun atm.

For now I hope to get "rich" first so I can afford to switch to 6L items that are not tabula and buy these cool rings/belts/jewels like you have.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 09:37:40
June 07 2018 09:37 GMT
#28606
I've spent less than 5ex on my gear, truth be told. I've actually been extremely unlucky with drops for the most part.

Explosive arrow can destroy lab, the bosses start taking time at about t15 I noticed, t16 depending on the map can be a real slog/impossible. The only way I can improve my character now is to get another 6link + quiver, so I have a single target setup, instead of just using gmp.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 09:52:50
June 07 2018 09:51 GMT
#28607
On June 07 2018 18:37 bo1b wrote:
I've spent less than 5ex on my gear, truth be told. I've actually been extremely unlucky with drops for the most part.

Explosive arrow can destroy lab, the bosses start taking time at about t15 I noticed, t16 depending on the map can be a real slog/impossible. The only way I can improve my character now is to get another 6link + quiver, so I have a single target setup, instead of just using gmp.

You could switch GMP with deadly ailments for boss fights. Does increased skill duration passives affect how long it takes for EA fuses to blow up? If it does, I would guess we don't really want those.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 10:18:04
June 07 2018 10:17 GMT
#28608
On June 07 2018 17:04 bo1b wrote:
On that note, the ilvl of the temple seems to take an average range of what maps you are doing and choose the highest level. So make sure you run a t16 if you get a map room, especially a t3 map room.

"Average and choosing the highest level" doesn't make much sense.

"Average+4, capped at the highest level you did" is what I think is most plausible as of now, based on the data RichJMoney posted.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10810 Posts
June 07 2018 10:24 GMT
#28609
When are the incursions ramping up this bad?
I tend to just not to them if i run some map with crazy mods bit else?
I'm just at t12 atm, does it change much? (Arc totems with mom. 4100 lfe 1100 mana atm and -40% chaosres).
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 07 2018 10:24 GMT
#28610
I thought it would be a range, in otherwords average +4 fits into that.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 10:32:11
June 07 2018 10:31 GMT
#28611
Chaos res is king for incursions / temple. -40% is not enough with your stats to feel safe. I got most of my cash loot from Incursions (3* Tabula + Bisco's Collar and the majority of uniques), so I'd advise you to get some chaos res and stop skipping them. ^^
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 10:50:35
June 07 2018 10:44 GMT
#28612
Like a true playa i also had a Tabula and destroyed it completly on the Altar of sacrifice


I play SC and have no adpiration for lvl 100, so the occasional dead is ok... Ffs my highest char was a assassin cyclone cwc discharger during harbinger - iirc he never had more than 5200 life and t15+ bosses were a no go but the clear was sick. I made it to lvl 92 but it was just a dead end because random deaths just "hapoened".

I found a tinkerskin. Wtf 30+ c on poetrade? Are people mad?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 07 2018 11:33 GMT
#28613
t16 incursions with damage mods on the map, particularly gains % damage as x and monsters attack faster are extremely damaging.
Ryzel
Profile Joined December 2012
United States536 Posts
June 07 2018 12:00 GMT
#28614
Hey! Noob Exile here, I just made my first build by using some other builds as a base and I wanted to get your guys feedback.

https://pastebin.com/7Kdut4Hg

It's a Chin Sol Siege Ballista Ascendant that converts everything to Fire damage, going Chieftain/Raider for totem leech + onslaught/frenzy/movement speed. I wanted a Siege Ballista build that was as close to HC viable I could get while still putting out good DPS.

I haven't even reached maps yet though, so I don't really know if the numbers will add up or be good come endgame. Is 600k DPS enough? And are the defenses/HP totals enough?

Thanks for your feedback!
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21957 Posts
June 07 2018 12:04 GMT
#28615
On June 07 2018 19:44 Velr wrote:
Like a true playa i also had a Tabula and destroyed it completly on the Altar of sacrifice


I play SC and have no adpiration for lvl 100, so the occasional dead is ok... Ffs my highest char was a assassin cyclone cwc discharger during harbinger - iirc he never had more than 5200 life and t15+ bosses were a no go but the clear was sick. I made it to lvl 92 but it was just a dead end because random deaths just "hapoened".

I found a tinkerskin. Wtf 30+ c on poetrade? Are people mad?
LOTS of people playing traps. Makes sense for Tinkerskin to be expensive.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 13:37:52
June 07 2018 13:37 GMT
#28616
On June 07 2018 19:44 Velr wrote:
Like a true playa i also had a Tabula and destroyed it completly on the Altar of sacrifice


I play SC and have no adpiration for lvl 100, so the occasional dead is ok... Ffs my highest char was a assassin cyclone cwc discharger during harbinger - iirc he never had more than 5200 life and t15+ bosses were a no go but the clear was sick. I made it to lvl 92 but it was just a dead end because random deaths just "hapoened".

I found a tinkerskin. Wtf 30+ c on poetrade? Are people mad?

Do you mean altar of corruption? Why would you put your Tabula into altar of sacrifice to get a worse unique?!

My best character so far was in Abyss, the LL Guardian Fire Golem summoner. He was able to clear fast and kill all 4 Guardians fairly easy (I had most problems with Minotaur when he had some damage mods). Red Elder was a joke and I only done Shaper twice with him but it would not be a huge problem after I learned the fight better. Got him to lvl 93 and half only doing red maps.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 13:42:59
June 07 2018 13:41 GMT
#28617
On June 07 2018 21:00 Ryzel wrote:
Hey! Noob Exile here, I just made my first build by using some other builds as a base and I wanted to get your guys feedback.

https://pastebin.com/7Kdut4Hg

It's a Chin Sol Siege Ballista Ascendant that converts everything to Fire damage, going Chieftain/Raider for totem leech + onslaught/frenzy/movement speed. I wanted a Siege Ballista build that was as close to HC viable I could get while still putting out good DPS.

I haven't even reached maps yet though, so I don't really know if the numbers will add up or be good come endgame. Is 600k DPS enough? And are the defenses/HP totals enough?

Thanks for your feedback!

Without opening that pob link I can tell you that chin sol and ballista are a terrible combination. Chin Sol bonus damage has a very short range and putting down a slow ballista totem means wait time for totem to be ready and then balista to shoot while enemies are already moving away outside the most damage range. Also Chin Sol keeps pushing them away which needs you to put down more slow Ballistas. Better to use ranged attack totem and some other skill with Chin Sol but in truth if you want to use Chin Sol with totems you might as well switch to using Ancestral Warchief with a good weapon and a shield (or facebreaker) since it has similar range but better overall.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 15:58:39
June 07 2018 13:48 GMT
#28618
I've played ele siege ballista with Iron Commander before and can tell you that once you're past the early game the ballistas will shoot very fast unless you skip attack speed. I'm sure the idea of Chin Sol + ballistas can work very well. Should be strong against bosses and strong enough to kill trash if built well.

Looking at his PoB build... wow, now that's some wild idea. :D I'm sure it can work, but max 5k hp requires a lot of skill and attention in HC. I'd personally drop Vaal Pact and Profane Chemistry (too inefficient in your tree imo) and get some more life nodes. The problem with your build is that it's too unique heavy and lacks resistances and base life. Damage looks good enough though.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 15:21:22
June 07 2018 15:10 GMT
#28619
On June 07 2018 17:04 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2018 15:24 Duka08 wrote:
On June 06 2018 00:58 Duka08 wrote:
On June 06 2018 00:48 bo1b wrote:
6linked my quill rain, replaced amulet with eye of innocence, and one of my rings with the mokou embrace, and a wed quiver. I'm now comfortably killing t14-15 bosses (haven't had a t16 drop yet), did 2 red elders and they were cake walks. I think for uber elder I'll need rear guard and red nightmare, but that's a little way off yet. More confident then ever that this character can farm uber elder.

Just need about 40% more chaos res, and I'll be laughing in incursions too.

The most appealing part about it when I checked the PoB was the life tbh. Getting that kind of dps out of like 240% life on tree? VBA that good lol? I'm really curious to try it. I'm also light on bow experience so it'd be relatively fresh. Arc traps are just a bit too snooze right now.

Hey bo1b when is it safe to transition from leveling into something like what you've got. I have no experience with ignite or explosive arrow and just slapped together some quick bow leveling shit tonight and got to 40ish but don't know when it's safe to respec and invest hard in the fire damage nodes and such and switch to EA. At the rate I'm at I could probably make it all the way to maps on my twink gear but idk, don't want to accidentally fuck myself

I would advise levelling as flameblast totems until about level 70, when you have a 5link quill rain on hand. At that point I'd set my talent tree up to be like this: http://poeurl.com/bXzm

This will feel horrible until you get your explosive arrow up some levels by the way. I can't state that enough, the explosive arrow has to be at an appropriate level or you'll do no damage.

Yeah I'm leveling EA and all the appropriate gems on my weapon swap but could also just buy high level gems if the need arises. Tree looks similar to what I was going for. I'll wait until maps to start considering the switch, pretty much what I expected.

Arch mentioned something about high ignite chance. Looks like the tree + Combustion is enough? And Eye of Innocence. Just want to make sure it's not something to look out for or sacrifice other stats to get on jewels or whatever.

I'm a bit curious on how EE works with this setup though. Unless that's just what rain of arrows is for? I feel like I remember the interaction between EE and ignite being weird so that's probably what I'm missing
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 07 2018 19:26 GMT
#28620
Rain of arrow is for that. If you look at his ring, he has some attacks do lightning damage stat. You hit enemies once with Rain, you curse them and give them -50% fire res for 5s
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