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ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
June 07 2018 20:12 GMT
#28621
Does anybody here know how The Golden Rule interacts with Crimson Dance? Do you reflect 8 bleeds onto yourself, or just 1? If 1, does it get the Crimson Dance changes (50% less damage, no extra damage while moving)?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 21:54:41
June 07 2018 21:53 GMT
#28622
Eye of innocence is pointless without a ring of mokou's embrace, totally unnecessary until later.

with combustion + those nodes on the tree you have exactly 100% ignite chance. A 20qual ea + 20/20 flamability is nice to have for maps with %chance to avoid ailments.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 22:05:04
June 07 2018 22:04 GMT
#28623
On June 08 2018 06:53 bo1b wrote:
Eye of innocence is pointless without a ring of mokou's embrace, totally unnecessary until later.

with combustion + those nodes on the tree you have exactly 100% ignite chance. A 20qual ea + 20/20 flamability is nice to have for maps with %chance to avoid ailments.

Don't you want the leech from innocence though if you're taking the blood magic nodes? Or is the hp cost small enough to just regen and forget about for early mapping

Could alternatively just use a rare neck with the fire damage leech instead, I probably have one lying around already
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 07 2018 22:19 GMT
#28624
With 5-6k hp and some regen on the tree you'll be fine if you play it safe. You have .5% leech on the elementalist nodes when you hit merciless anyway.

I definitely think eye of innocence and the ring is a good combo, but it's definitely not necessary.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-07 22:36:37
June 07 2018 22:36 GMT
#28625
On June 08 2018 07:19 bo1b wrote:
With 5-6k hp and some regen on the tree you'll be fine if you play it safe. You have .5% leech on the elementalist nodes when you hit merciless anyway.

I definitely think eye of innocence and the ring is a good combo, but it's definitely not necessary.

It is even less necessary for a trickster version that will be recovering lots of life back without leeching. And for boss fights Atziri flask should be enough as well.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 07 2018 23:10 GMT
#28626
You recover life as a trickster after killing a mob, this is not reliable at all in boss fights, nor is 1 flask of life leech.

Please keep in mind that all bosses are a easy until u get to guardians, shaper and uber elder. I've done a t13 red elder super easily, carried 2 person t11 elder (with the person dead in the room). I'm not convinced at all by the trickster build if I'm being honest.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
June 08 2018 06:05 GMT
#28627
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
June 08 2018 06:17 GMT
#28628
So I know the max fuses with EA is 5 but do you have to actually stop attacking to get the 5 stack to explode or does it keep extending the fuse even if it's at max stacks?

This shit ain't bad btw just started mapping lol. Felt weird at first til I realized most white/magic mobs only take one fuse to kill.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-08 09:03:55
June 08 2018 07:49 GMT
#28629
On June 08 2018 08:10 bo1b wrote:
You recover life as a trickster after killing a mob, this is not reliable at all in boss fights, nor is 1 flask of life leech.

Please keep in mind that all bosses are a easy until u get to guardians, shaper and uber elder. I've done a t13 red elder super easily, carried 2 person t11 elder (with the person dead in the room). I'm not convinced at all by the trickster build if I'm being honest.

They did nerf Trickster a bit by nerfing the worm flask (in Flashback I used Southbound gloves to make sure I always kill worms with DoT so I can get the 70% recovery bonus during boss fights). I will have to see how he will do vs red elder now. But at least red elder always has some adds around that you can kill. Some of the Guardians and Shaper might be a bigger problem. I don't plan to do Uber Elder ever, the mechanical requirements for it seem to be way out of my fun range.

I am not playing this game to have Dark Soul like experience (I hate that game and playstyle). Shaper is already barely playable and fun for me.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-08 16:51:28
June 08 2018 16:50 GMT
#28630
They really did a number on VP since I last played. I can no longer stand in the middle of a mob pack and feel invincible. How do people cope with this in higher tier maps? I feel like my char would not be able to leech HP quick enough even with god tier items.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
June 08 2018 16:56 GMT
#28631
They play slayer for the overleech, use LGoH with a skill like molten strike-ancestral call, or play perma-immortal call.
Or jugg RF with two kaoms rings and regen 20% hp per sec through RF.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
June 08 2018 17:44 GMT
#28632
Well I am playing a reave gladiator this league, so those are not options for me... In boss fights my hp drains so fast and I don't think it's the lack of dps. Overall it just feels like I need to rely heavily on defensive flasks to stay alive.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
June 08 2018 18:08 GMT
#28633
On June 09 2018 02:44 Glacierz wrote:
Well I am playing a reave gladiator this league, so those are not options for me... In boss fights my hp drains so fast and I don't think it's the lack of dps. Overall it just feels like I need to rely heavily on defensive flasks to stay alive.

I played something similar last season and still mashed on Basalt/Granite most of the time yeah
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
June 08 2018 19:54 GMT
#28634
Do you have a source of recover-on-block (like The Surrender)? I think that's generally the best way to be mega-tanky as a Gladiator.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
June 08 2018 20:26 GMT
#28635
The build I'm going for dual wields a stat stick for the dmg. With a shield the dmg will fall off too much for high tier content I think. This build would rely on high spell block to stay alive. I'm nowhere near end game gear yet, right now it feels very squishy, dying frequently in the temple zones against large packs =/
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1244 Posts
June 08 2018 20:32 GMT
#28636
Speaking of the new incursion zones, what's an optimal clearing strategy when I don't have enough dmg to do a full room clear within the time limit?

Should I focus on linking to the Apex or upgrading the rooms by clearing the boss? I find myself only having time to do one of the two most of the time.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
June 08 2018 20:45 GMT
#28637
On June 09 2018 05:32 Glacierz wrote:
Speaking of the new incursion zones, what's an optimal clearing strategy when I don't have enough dmg to do a full room clear within the time limit?

Should I focus on linking to the Apex or upgrading the rooms by clearing the boss? I find myself only having time to do one of the two most of the time.

I'd prioritize upgrading/linking good rooms over getting to the boss. Most of the best temple drops are from T3 rooms (items, maps, currency, gems, jewelry are all really good). The boss loot is pretty underwhelming by comparison.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
June 08 2018 23:25 GMT
#28638
Yeah as far as I know the only good thing the boss can drop is vial of the ghost and I have no clue of you have to do something special to have him be able to drop it or if it's just super rare
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 09 2018 00:56 GMT
#28639
The vial of sacrifice is also another good drop, upgrades the sacrificial heart to Zerphi's heart, worth 11 ex.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
June 09 2018 03:09 GMT
#28640
So the EA build ain't bad, different than I expected. Cruising thru yellow maps right now trying to just fill out my atlas. Main upgrades right now are to start dump WED on as much as possible, and get a nice chest once I 5/6L my bow (using tabula still).

Oh I never picked up the Grand Spectrum jewels either. Is that a crazy upgrade over decent 2-3 roll rare jewels? Or were they just relatively cheap and easy to start with at the time
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