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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 28 2017 12:26 GMT
#24461
Also regretting not playing kinetic blast more often
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
June 28 2017 23:40 GMT
#24462
I regret choosing to blow 670 jewelers on a chest to only end up with a 5 socket... which i somehow 5L in 2 fuses :|
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 28 2017 23:42 GMT
#24463
i suppose it evens out sort of for total currency spent
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-29 06:41:21
June 29 2017 06:38 GMT
#24464
could I get feedback on this Soul Mantle Bladefall Crit build I'm working on? pastebin link for Path of Building:

https://pastebin.com/wgtnJErP

it's a 3.0 build. Guardian Ascendency is actually pretty good, gaining some movespeed, cast speed, block, and curse protection. Assassin is weaker; you don't get power charge generation, but all of the other ascendencies didn't seem great. mostly I'm not sure whether to go hatred (+ shatters, - 1k mana) or brutality. Also I'm not sure about the worth of Alchemist cluster
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-29 07:42:45
June 29 2017 07:39 GMT
#24465
On June 29 2017 15:38 EchelonTee wrote:
could I get feedback on this Soul Mantle Bladefall Crit build I'm working on? pastebin link for Path of Building:

https://pastebin.com/wgtnJErP

it's a 3.0 build. Guardian Ascendency is actually pretty good, gaining some movespeed, cast speed, block, and curse protection. Assassin is weaker; you don't get power charge generation, but all of the other ascendencies didn't seem great. mostly I'm not sure whether to go hatred (+ shatters, - 1k mana) or brutality. Also I'm not sure about the worth of Alchemist cluster

If you remove 4 weaker life nodes and put 4 points into good mana nodes you get more out of it.

Also big chunk of your damage and crit is locked behind Uber Lab. You will need someone to carry you.

Also don't use Concentration, you will not be able to hit anything :D

DPS is kind of low for a 7L
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-29 08:58:56
June 29 2017 08:54 GMT
#24466
good call on the mana nodes. yea the uber lab thing is an issue, but I can get some more crit next the scion while I wait for trials to be finished.

Conc is fine for Bladefall due to it's mechanics but I can use ICD instead if it's an issue.

I think the dps is fine, 80k x 3 totems is sufficient to clear reds in my book. What numbers are you looking for? For comparison, my EQ guy had 55k dps and felt fine. ED builds have ~18k ED DoT + 18k Decay
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-29 10:17:24
June 29 2017 10:15 GMT
#24467
On June 29 2017 17:54 EchelonTee wrote:
good call on the mana nodes. yea the uber lab thing is an issue, but I can get some more crit next the scion while I wait for trials to be finished.

Conc is fine for Bladefall due to it's mechanics but I can use ICD instead if it's an issue.

I think the dps is fine, 80k x 3 totems is sufficient to clear reds in my book. What numbers are you looking for? For comparison, my EQ guy had 55k dps and felt fine. ED builds have ~18k ED DoT + 18k Decay

OK, I forgot you got 3 totems :D

It is just that my Bladefall trap poison decay PoB attempts pulled over 100k damage per trap. At this point I am considering anything below 100k as bad (base damage + DoT). But non elemental build is reduced the least by map boss and guardians/shaper resistances so it works better there. And for comparison RF totems does 300 000k dps just for mapping, closer to 1 Mil if I activate all the tricks.

Hmm those ED numbers seem super low, I have not ran a pure ED through PoB but with how people always talked about ED builds I assumed DPS would be much better.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
June 29 2017 19:26 GMT
#24468
dyou have a PoB for RF totems? am interested
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 29 2017 20:03 GMT
#24469
LOL, Zizaran is pushing hard right now and looks pretty tired at times. The following vid from Reddit just now made me laugh:

-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-29 22:14:59
June 29 2017 22:13 GMT
#24470
On June 30 2017 04:26 EchelonTee wrote:
dyou have a PoB for RF totems? am interested

https://pastebin.com/32SW9gfi

It is not 100% complete (not all gear is set but those don't matter as much and are a personal preference anyways.

Also this is a MoM version, but you easily switch points around and go for Blood Magic instead
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
June 29 2017 23:00 GMT
#24471
seems good. I think I will test out RF totem and BF totem next beta assuming I can get the gear

I would take the marauder life nodes instead of going up from start - spend 2 more points but you get 17% life and some armor. Also you can take two res nodes left of Diamond Skin instead of the 3 str nodes, saves you a point.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 30 2017 01:16 GMT
#24472
Of all the things to die to this race, running along a rhoomba in the lab was pretty far down my list. Jesus.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
June 30 2017 07:04 GMT
#24473
roombas are horrendous. can't wait until new MoM comes out, lab becomes wayy easier
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 30 2017 09:26 GMT
#24474
On June 30 2017 08:00 EchelonTee wrote:
seems good. I think I will test out RF totem and BF totem next beta assuming I can get the gear

I would take the marauder life nodes instead of going up from start - spend 2 more points but you get 17% life and some armor. Also you can take two res nodes left of Diamond Skin instead of the 3 str nodes, saves you a point.

This is another version of it, better I think: https://pastebin.com/MU0E2SPG
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-30 13:44:38
June 30 2017 13:23 GMT
#24475
OK I started leveling up my Chieftan with Oro's Sacrifice with original plan of trying Vigilant Strike that ignites everyone around and kills them that way.
But in the meantime I found that Cleave probably works better (well after I found out there is that OP jewel for Cleave that gives you free Fortify which was one of the main reasons to use Vigilant strike) so I kind of switched to that.
Here is my lvl 90 plan for this build in PoB: https://pastebin.com/2TvBv1ZK
It has full gear and everything. I will have enough resources to buy everything in it since legacy league is old now and things are cheap.

Does it seem good? Any obvious ways I can make it better? You will notice I filled my slots with chance to ignite items, that is because I didn't want to waste one support slot. In 3.0 chance to ignite is a good gem as it also gives More Fire damage modifier but in 2.6 it seems like a waste and both sword and Chieftan already give bonus to ignite and it was possible to get it to 100% without that support (and curse immune enemies I will have 90% chance to ignite).
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
June 30 2017 19:50 GMT
#24476
(-) Rashkaldor's amulet. only adds 5% chance to ignite, you can live with 95% chance. (+) ngahamu's sign or xoph's blood, either should add hefty damage

leech? could drop mana flows and something else to reach duelist leech. not essential since you regen is nice but it's an option

I really don't think Totemic Mastery is worth. instead you can get several 2 point jewels.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-30 21:28:29
June 30 2017 21:27 GMT
#24477
On July 01 2017 04:50 EchelonTee wrote:
(-) Rashkaldor's amulet. only adds 5% chance to ignite, you can live with 95% chance. (+) ngahamu's sign or xoph's blood, either should add hefty damage

leech? could drop mana flows and something else to reach duelist leech. not essential since you regen is nice but it's an option

I really don't think Totemic Mastery is worth. instead you can get several 2 point jewels.

I am already using Ngahamu sign, it is my 2nd ring :D
xoph blood could be an option for amulet slot but it will probably be pricey. I need to get enough C first to buy Kaom's Armor instead (already bought Oro's 6S5L).
Without Mana Flows I don't have enough mana regen to sustain my attacks. I don't think so little leech would be enough.

I took totem passives so to keep my totem alive longer. Totem has 4 purposes, it blinds, activates Elemental Overload, it reduces nearby enemy damage and increases my fire damage and if it kills it has 20% chance to give me an endurance charge. Having it live longer through those few passives seemed like a good benefit. And Totemic Mastery is such an awesome node, no jewels can replace it.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-30 21:49:24
June 30 2017 21:45 GMT
#24478
I meant the nghamu tiki fire damage neck. it's cheap. also, isn't mokou's embrace > nghamu's sign?

0.4% mana leech is usually more than enough leech for any attack build. takes more points than mana flows though. It's just when you have a high dps attack build, leech is usually quite nice. maybe you can get 0.2% fire damage corrupted somewhere, or boot enchant. not important if you feel tanky enough tho

are you certain totem activates EO? it's not you dealing the crit, I don't think it works. blind is such a non help IMO, stibnite does that already. I personally would use decoy totem (VERY useful) or ancestral protector

either way giving up 2 point jewels usually doesn't make much sense. unless you are strapped for cash they will often be better than other passive nodes

also wise oak = big dps and survivability boost
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-30 23:42:20
June 30 2017 22:23 GMT
#24479
On July 01 2017 06:45 EchelonTee wrote:
I meant the nghamu tiki fire damage neck. it's cheap. also, isn't mokou's embrace > nghamu's sign?

0.4% mana leech is usually more than enough leech for any attack build. takes more points than mana flows though. It's just when you have a high dps attack build, leech is usually quite nice. maybe you can get 0.2% fire damage corrupted somewhere, or boot enchant. not important if you feel tanky enough tho

are you certain totem activates EO? it's not you dealing the crit, I don't think it works. blind is such a non help IMO, stibnite does that already. I personally would use decoy totem (VERY useful) or ancestral protector

either way giving up 2 point jewels usually doesn't make much sense. unless you are strapped for cash they will often be better than other passive nodes

also wise oak = big dps and survivability boost

Frack, I forgot totems might now work for EO.

Yes I cannot afford good jewels , the cost 35 c and such.
What is wise oak? I put that name in seach in PoB and got no hits.

EDIT: ok wise oak is a unique flask. Seems interesting.
EDIT2: mokou's embrace is useless for my character when he is immune to being ignited.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
July 01 2017 00:40 GMT
#24480
I'm usually able to snag up 3 stat jewels for a few chaos tops. Reasonable spot to get resists early on, bit obscure damage stats if your build allows for it, can fill up a few stat points if you have to, stuff like that. Searching for that kind of jewel is incredibly easy (add all your damage stats, "count" at 2, add random useful stats and set with "count" at 1, set low price, done) and gives you decent bang for your buck and/or makes other gear choices easier.

Yes, if you want life on them or 3+ damage stats that have an obvious synergy going on then you'll usually end up paying more but overall two point jewel slots will always beat anything else on the tree.

Even if you only get two great stats they're worth it.

Wise Oak is opop, I love that design. It's decent and reasonable easy to use for any elemental build and becomes amazing if you ever go full OCD mode to even out all your resists perfectly.
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