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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
June 25 2017 05:21 GMT
#24441
This guy with his Belly, Goldrim & Relentless Fury SSF.

GO GET EM
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 25 2017 10:44 GMT
#24442
On June 25 2017 13:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
hrimburn were always good. no double dipping is a giant nerf to them lol

OK but not in this combination as boosting cold damage would not boost ignite and boosting ignite would not boost base cold damage. You could go for only elemental damage nodes but those were fewer and weaker.
And in 3.0 Burning damage nodes were buffed and new DoT supports let you only focus on fire, burning and whatever else boosts ignite only.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 25 2017 11:17 GMT
#24443
Boosting cold damage did boost ignite, as ignites are based on percentage of initial damage. It wouldn't be affected by as much double dipping but it would still boost the ignite.

I pretty extensively tested this, and an awful lost of builds were based around it - such as cospris malice and vortex.
Nebula
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
England780 Posts
June 25 2017 13:27 GMT
#24444
Been a while since i've played - like two years +. Itching to play again, worth waiting for the big 3.0 update (Any rough ETA?) or jump back in and just have some fun?
<3
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
June 25 2017 13:52 GMT
#24445
On June 25 2017 22:27 Nebula wrote:
Been a while since i've played - like two years +. Itching to play again, worth waiting for the big 3.0 update (Any rough ETA?) or jump back in and just have some fun?

Depends on what you're usually into, if you want to play HC I'd say playing the 3.0 beta is a must just to get used to some of the new things.

For Softcore, as long as you're comfortable with builds and/or already have something in mind that you're going to copy, going blind into the new stuff on release sounds like it could be loads of fun. If you just want a bit of craziness to get back into the groove of things there's a 2 week Mayhem race (SC/HC/SSF) going on right now that just started yesterday.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
June 25 2017 14:51 GMT
#24446
On June 25 2017 22:27 Nebula wrote:
Been a while since i've played - like two years +. Itching to play again, worth waiting for the big 3.0 update (Any rough ETA?) or jump back in and just have some fun?


3.0 doesnt have an actual release date yet, but proposed date is around end of july/august.
+- delays or whatever gets in the way
"If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
June 25 2017 15:16 GMT
#24447
On June 25 2017 23:51 Quateras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2017 22:27 Nebula wrote:
Been a while since i've played - like two years +. Itching to play again, worth waiting for the big 3.0 update (Any rough ETA?) or jump back in and just have some fun?


3.0 doesnt have an actual release date yet, but proposed date is around end of july/august.
+- delays or whatever gets in the way

It's gonna be delayed till after TI, I just know it.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-25 19:37:00
June 25 2017 19:25 GMT
#24448
RIP at #5 HC Mayhem, Igna too stronk.

Now my friend gets all my wealth, such a sick start too. Had Kaoms, Voltaxic, 6link ar/eva chest, 650ES 6socket regalia all in my stash. I guess it's understandable that it's a void league.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5251 Posts
June 26 2017 09:36 GMT
#24449
RIP

I remember someone mentioning soul mantle stuff few pages back (archangel?) I was wondering if Soul Mantle + 2x Kikazaru was really HC safe? I know people were running the build this past league but I'm still a bit worried about using 3 items with no life, and curses on self (at 20% the effect but yeah)
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 26 2017 10:46 GMT
#24450
Planning out a hiltless mom cwdt build, that's looking really quite promising right now.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-26 13:37:39
June 26 2017 13:23 GMT
#24451
On June 26 2017 18:36 EchelonTee wrote:
RIP

I remember someone mentioning soul mantle stuff few pages back (archangel?) I was wondering if Soul Mantle + 2x Kikazaru was really HC safe? I know people were running the build this past league but I'm still a bit worried about using 3 items with no life, and curses on self (at 20% the effect but yeah)

I never make HC safe builds because I never play HC. I do however plan builds that will not die often (and often such builds die more during leveling than when finally reaching build's end).
Soul mantle + 2x kikazaru also requires a Curse Immune flask for when too many curses are upon you. Something that is always useful with its effects and has plenty of charges.


BTW, I spent last few days trying to come up with some nice Oro's Sacrifice builds for 3.0 based around ignite. I have not found one yet that I am satisfied yet. Best I could cobble together is a Vigilant Strike Chieftain that does 65k dps and 83k ignite dps and also uses Flame Totems with Immolation for a damage boost. Well DPS is still work in progress and not all my body slots are filled but the biggest ones are. Nice thing about Chieftain is how you get new Endurance Charges by just attacking and igniting people so in theory you should always have enough to ignore Vigilant Strike cooldown.
Now this build uses Kaom's Heart as well so the Flame Totem is just 4L.
The question is if it worth more to use something like Belly and 6L that totem but lose lots of life and some bonus fire damage. With a 6L I could probably use Ancestral Warchief instead because I can afford one link to be additional accuracy.
The build also uses new Emberwake so two ignites will be possible. With all frenzy charges up build has 2 attack per second so real dps should be 65k + 2x83k with AoE only being Ignite dps.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 26 2017 14:19 GMT
#24452
On June 26 2017 18:36 EchelonTee wrote:
RIP

I remember someone mentioning soul mantle stuff few pages back (archangel?) I was wondering if Soul Mantle + 2x Kikazaru was really HC safe? I know people were running the build this past league but I'm still a bit worried about using 3 items with no life, and curses on self (at 20% the effect but yeah)

i think the idea was to abuse the fact that new scion guardian subclass grants the 25% reduced curse effect, although that does make you scion so still bad.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5251 Posts
June 26 2017 20:48 GMT
#24453
dude thanks! I forgot about that part. With Guardian the build is totally viable, and the damage from self flagellation and potential 7L makes up for being a crappy scion.

@Archangel I think the biggest problem you will have is dealing with a name lock melee skill with low AoE. when I was working on crit FB, the damage was insane and I even got reflect handled, but the damage projection is so lacking that it felt bad to me. if you are OK with this then go for it

In my previous experience Kaom's is superior to Belly but it may be closer now, since you can get higher flat life on your gear
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-26 23:17:41
June 26 2017 23:12 GMT
#24454
On June 27 2017 05:48 EchelonTee wrote:
dude thanks! I forgot about that part. With Guardian the build is totally viable, and the damage from self flagellation and potential 7L makes up for being a crappy scion.

@Archangel I think the biggest problem you will have is dealing with a name lock melee skill with low AoE. when I was working on crit FB, the damage was insane and I even got reflect handled, but the damage projection is so lacking that it felt bad to me. if you are OK with this then go for it

In my previous experience Kaom's is superior to Belly but it may be closer now, since you can get higher flat life on your gear

AoE is kind of a problem but I was planning to use the new Ignite Proliferation. It should spread one or two ignites through all the mobs near each other. In theory I would only need to hit the first monster of the group and then continue hitting the rare or special enemies while ignite takes care of the rest. Another option is to use Flicker to get right to most dangerous enemy and then use Vigilant on that one while Ignite takes care of the rest.

I am going to try this build in 2.6 first but using Melee Splash instead of crappy Elemental proliferation. They both got same penalty to damage but melee splash only got that penalty on other enemies, also Melee Splash has much bigger AoE than Elemental Proliferation (but will not spread outside that AoE). The only problem might be that I need to kill Ignited enemies to get Endurance charges, and Vigilant + Melee Splash might be one shotting most enemies with first strike :D
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 27 2017 16:20 GMT
#24455
is mayhem fun? worth playing a bit?
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5251 Posts
June 27 2017 18:53 GMT
#24456
it's fun yeah. the loot is crazy
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
nukem1
Profile Joined October 2010
345 Posts
June 27 2017 19:52 GMT
#24457
It's pretty fun most of the times - breaches, strongboxes, spirits mean loot explosions, lots of excitement there. There are frustrating times though, some invasion bosses and a few of the exiles are kinda rippy. Ghosted magic mobs or bosses can get crazy dangerous.

It seems there aren't that many people playing though, either they're waiting for 3.0 or because it's a race (and gets voided at the end).

Side note, I'm playing melee life based after many moons, had forgotten the feeling you get seeing your hp bar bouncing between 20 and 60 % >.> feels more rewarding but also more mechanically intensive... lots of adrenaline, dopamine, serotonin, amphetamine (maybe not that last one)
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LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
June 27 2017 23:32 GMT
#24458
Mayhem SSF is .. intense if you want it to be haha. My totem champion was pretty safe, tons of regen defense totems etc. Playing an evasion based spectral throw character has been a adrenal rollercoaster so far.

Made 85 with champion, so figured id try something else.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5251 Posts
June 28 2017 06:02 GMT
#24459
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zzleoFUfO4DzvYkO6UjjHhVGZQBhYdAX6NbSUOX8U6k/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

Mayhem spread sheet with info about what's in each map
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 28 2017 06:26 GMT
#24460
Regretting not starting this earlier tbh, I've been a bit too engrossed with the beta to really enjoy this to its fullest.
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