EPTBarcelona 2 - 0 Villareal in the tie-break now. Goals from Cesc and Thiago, the new midfields players this year.
2011-2012 football (soccer) thread - Page 54
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haitike
Spain2744 Posts
Barcelona 2 - 0 Villareal in the tie-break now. Goals from Cesc and Thiago, the new midfields players this year. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6324 Posts
I didn't mean to say there werent private owners who invest money into it but Malaga clearly doesn't nearly do it to the extent of clubs like Chelsea and city. | ||
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kazansky
Germany931 Posts
On August 30 2011 05:09 RvB wrote: I didn't mean to say there werent private owners who invest money into it but Malaga clearly doesn't nearly do it to the extent of clubs like Chelsea and city. Well, lack of entrepreneurship is ruining almost all spanish clubs in a slightly different way than private investments are in England, I think both leagues are comparable when it comes to blown up salaries and debts. Chelsea or Manchester City are of course very extreme examples of a general trend. On August 30 2011 04:54 haitike wrote: I like Cesc Fabregas in Barcelona. He plays more forward that in MU and he is scoring almost all games. You mean at Arsenal I guess?  | ||
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
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Telebear
United Kingdom107 Posts
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alkow
United States192 Posts
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haitike
Spain2744 Posts
I miss the old times when Valencia won the league (in 2001) and went to two champions league finals in a row. La liga now sucks, only barsa-madrid. | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On August 30 2011 05:31 Stimp wrote: Chelsea's owner wrote off the debt so Chelsea don't owe him anything and are trying to become sustainable. Only Real, Barca, United and City have players earning in excess of 200 000 a week. "Writing off" the debt is the problem. I don't mind a club going into debt if they have to pay it back (well, it's annoying as a supporter of such a club, because it means lean years ahead in the transfer market). But if a club can just take in hundreds of millions in cash injections without ever having to pay it back, that makes it incredibly difficult for the other clubs who have to be run like a business and try to break even/make a profit in the long run. I think Lampard and Terry both earn above the 200,000 a week mark. United's average weekly salaries are 3rd in the EPL behind Chelsea and City. | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/08/29/barcelona-5-0-villarreal-tactics/ That's a pretty scary system Barca is now capable of deploying. With their possession (75% in this game), they don't really need a bunch of true defenders... imagine this group with Villa in for Pedro and Xavi for Alcantara. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
ashley young is such a great addition to mu. | ||
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WhiteShadow37
United States9 Posts
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eburnsdaniel
United Kingdom69 Posts
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TranceStorm
1616 Posts
On August 30 2011 08:16 Signet wrote: Ironically (given the topic of last 2 pages), Barca just beat Villareal 5-0. Villareal placed 4th in La Liga last season. :p http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/08/29/barcelona-5-0-villarreal-tactics/ That's a pretty scary system Barca is now capable of deploying. With their possession (75% in this game), they don't really need a bunch of true defenders... imagine this group with Villa in for Pedro and Xavi for Alcantara. That's a really really cool system - the number of 'triangles' in that system is pretty ridiculous. I didn't watch the game, but I heard that Barcelona were incredibly fluid during that game. Like one of the commentators on Zonal Marking said, it is extremely effective against teams that play two forwards up top as Villarreal did. Barcelona would probably have to return to four at the back against teams who choose not to play that fashion. The formation does seem slightly susceptible against teams that are committed to defending deep and launching counter attacks over the top since Busquets and Mascherano are not as aerially adept as natural center-backs. From a tactical standpoint, I'd love to see where Guardiola goes with this formation. But from a personal fan standpoint, I don't want to see any more innovation from Barcelona! | ||
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kazansky
Germany931 Posts
On August 30 2011 10:52 TranceStorm wrote: That's a really really cool system - the number of 'triangles' in that system is pretty ridiculous. I didn't watch the game, but I heard that Barcelona were incredibly fluid during that game. Like one of the commentators on Zonal Marking said, it is extremely effective against teams that play two forwards up top as Villarreal did. Barcelona would probably have to return to four at the back against teams who choose not to play that fashion. The formation does seem slightly susceptible against teams that are committed to defending deep and launching counter attacks over the top since Busquets and Mascherano are not as aerially adept as natural center-backs. From a tactical standpoint, I'd love to see where Guardiola goes with this formation. But from a personal fan standpoint, I don't want to see any more innovation from Barcelona! It is in fact a reasonable choice against classic 2 striker teams, but the majority of the teams, especially in Champions League, play some 4-5-1ish system which will force barca to play a back 4 again. And I see some vulnerability to a team playing real wingers, the presence in the outer parts of the pitch is not the best. Ajax played this system in national competition for a while, but they didn't have the player material to bring it to perfection. But it's lovely to see a coach like guardiola successfully trying to utilize his improved tactical knowledge he gained in his late career years in Italy. And he is using to many Guardiola'esque players on the field, its absurd | ||
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Telebear
United Kingdom107 Posts
On August 30 2011 08:56 WhiteShadow37 wrote: Manchester<3 hopefully we keep up the good work. Been fan of Manchester since 06-07 =D Fuck football | ||
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
On August 30 2011 05:44 Signet wrote: "Writing off" the debt is the problem. I don't mind a club going into debt if they have to pay it back (well, it's annoying as a supporter of such a club, because it means lean years ahead in the transfer market). But if a club can just take in hundreds of millions in cash injections without ever having to pay it back, that makes it incredibly difficult for the other clubs who have to be run like a business and try to break even/make a profit in the long run. I think Lampard and Terry both earn above the 200,000 a week mark. United's average weekly salaries are 3rd in the EPL behind Chelsea and City. Lampard and Terry are between 120 and 150 ish. Chelsea's is so high because we have a lot more in 70 to 90 bracket. | ||
GTR
51705 Posts
Arsenal have announced that they will offer to buy another away ticket for those fans who travelled to Old Trafford yesterday to watch their team lose 8-2 to Manchester United. loooooool | ||
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imperfect
Canada1652 Posts
On August 30 2011 22:28 GTR wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/8729391/Arsenal-say-they-will-compensate-fans-who-travelled-to-watch-8-2-annihilation-by-Manchester-United.html loooooool wtf looool | ||
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kazansky
Germany931 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6324 Posts
On August 30 2011 23:55 kazansky wrote: Wenger also decided to sign Mertesacker from Werder Bremen, I'm not entirely sure if he's made for the physical english football, but we'll see. I don't think he's good enough for Arsenal, I find him a very average player. | ||
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