EPTI have a feeling Mark Hughes will boot him anyway.
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
I have a feeling Mark Hughes will boot him anyway. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18635 Posts
On May 24 2012 08:28 sc4k wrote: Christ, just watched a really well put-together recap of the champions league final + interviews of the players + some montage of previous games in the CL this season. Such an emotional experience to hear Frank talk about how they lost the final in 2008 shortly after his mother passing away. So much was against us on that day and throughout the tournament. I don't think a fan can be any prouder of his club than I am of Chelsea right now. Facing that 3-1 in Napoli, the 10 men no defenders 2-1 in Barcelona, the 83rd minute goal, the extra time penalty and the first penalty in the shootout blocked against Bayern. 3 remarkable comeback games, to be honest the whole run of Chelsea is just the most astonishing thing I have experienced in football. I might even go so far as to say that the sum total of those three results (napoli barca bayern) might even surpass the unbelievable comeback of liverpool v ac milan. Still though, that one was insane. 3 goals behind at half time against arguably the best team in Europe at that moment and you come back and win??? Fuck, something about English clubs in the Champions League is just epic as hell, so much grit and determination. I'm sure the intensity of the support must be part of it. The fans of every team in the prem are just insanely zealous and many put everything they have into their club. Guess this sums it up lol + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhrdvzflnc1qcycq7o1_500.jpg) Now if only our national team could show some of the grit that English clubs show regularly, we might be getting somewhere. exactly that religious mentality towards their clubs makes it impossible to work together in the national team... | ||
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uberMatt
Canada659 Posts
On May 24 2012 09:38 sharkie wrote: exactly that religious mentality towards their clubs makes it impossible to work together in the national team... spain | ||
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
On May 23 2012 20:57 sc4k wrote: Haha, I'm not sure I can agree with you about the first sentence. He DID have an amazing game against Bayern for sure. He is underrated but he isn't world class imo, he consistently gave the ball away whenever he was on the pitch in the league even if he is good at defending. Basically, most dangerous players in Chelsea for giving away possession are Mikel, Meireles, Ramires, Luiz. Mostly because of suspect passing, and Meireles because he shoots all the time with about a 1% chance of scoring. I think Ramires and Luiz balance out their failures with other aspects (though I think Luiz would be better at Barca). I would never be able to put Mikel or Meireles on the same level as Makelele or even prime Essien. As much as Meireles has been good playing his role in the team, there are many players we could bring in who could do the same but not take so many god damned potshots. Mikel is a nice backup though  .At one stage, mikel had the highest passing success rate in the premier league... for the past 5 years. The guy does not give the ball away easily, only when he gets a suicide pass when surrounded by 3 players, and even then he 50% of the time retains and moves it on, that is when he gets criticized for 'slowing play down' and 'only passing sideways'. The guy is immense. | ||
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Latty
Germany567 Posts
it sure was a nice season, next year in the Bundesliga it will become shitty again, hope we wont go down immediately again :D | ||
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hns
Germany609 Posts
On May 24 2012 16:06 Latty wrote: compliation of the Eintracht Frankfurt Ultras this Year: http://www.ultras-tifo.net/best-of/63-season-20112012/923-best-of-eintracht-frankfurt-20112012.html it sure was a nice season, next year in the Bundesliga it will become shitty again, hope we wont go down immediately again :D Yeah, finally some other Eintracht fan here. :> Although I must say I'm not too impressed with all the bengalo stuff. That page there should add how much picture has cost the club.. | ||
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Latty
Germany567 Posts
we better not get deeper into this here  everyone has his own opinion on that. i know that many people dont like it, but i think that the majority of them dont even go to away games. but what do i know :D im just a stupid rioter and i spread violence all over the country do you go to the home games regulary? | ||
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Wala.Revolution
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Dr.Lettuce
United Kingdom663 Posts
On May 24 2012 09:24 Telcontar wrote: I have a feeling Mark Hughes will boot him anyway. Agreed. 3 counts of violent conduct towards Tevez, Aguero and Kompany. Refusing to get off the pitch immediately after the sending off. Being sent off for what - the third time in a season? Which warrants a further penalty. The guy is a fucking idiot. | ||
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NuclearJudas
6546 Posts
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On May 24 2012 15:32 Stimp wrote: At one stage, mikel had the highest passing success rate in the premier league... for the past 5 years. The guy does not give the ball away easily, only when he gets a suicide pass when surrounded by 3 players, and even then he 50% of the time retains and moves it on, that is when he gets criticized for 'slowing play down' and 'only passing sideways'. The guy is immense. Well maybe it's because half the time when he dribbles he knocks the ball to opponents accidentally. Might not be his passing but I do remember him being a black hole of possession this season! Good at defending though. I should add a caveat that I haven't paid much close attention to him, being worrying more about other players. On May 24 2012 16:06 Latty wrote: compliation of the Eintracht Frankfurt Ultras this Year: http://www.ultras-tifo.net/best-of/63-season-20112012/923-best-of-eintracht-frankfurt-20112012.html it sure was a nice season, next year in the Bundesliga it will become shitty again, hope we wont go down immediately again :D Haha this is funny. If only you Germans knew what 'ultra' sounded like to an English person. It basically sounds like what a 7 year old kid would call himself to sound badass. It reminds me of a guy from Germany who refers to himself on facebook as 'surfdude chiller'. I'm sure if I said that to a group of ultras I would get raped though lol. | ||
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NuclearJudas
6546 Posts
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Latty
Germany567 Posts
On May 24 2012 20:36 sc4k wrote: Well maybe it's because half the time when he dribbles he knocks the ball to opponents accidentally. Might not be his passing but I do remember him being a black hole of possession this season! Good at defending though. I should add a caveat that I haven't paid much close attention to him, being worrying more about other players. Haha this is funny. If only you Germans knew what 'ultra' sounded like to an English person. It basically sounds like what a 7 year old kid would call himself to sound badass. It reminds me of a guy from Germany who refers to himself on facebook as 'surfdude chiller'. I'm sure if I said that to a group of ultras I would get raped though lol. i only can imagine :D but Ultra is a latin word, means "above all" or "beyond that". sadly in the UK these kind of fan scenes do not really excist right? | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On May 24 2012 21:12 Latty wrote: i only can imagine :D but Ultra is a latin word, means "above all" or "beyond that". sadly in the UK these kind of fan scenes do not really excist right? What you mean pitch invasions and flairs? Not nearly as much as in the 80's lol. Those were some crazy times. Football was more about violence and working class angst in those days. Then again you do still get pitch invasions as seen by the last game of the season in manchester + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/mt1P9ZXpC0I/0.jpg) The police do get quite heavily involved in conspicuous football violence and the use of flares etc. Some football violence occurs quite separately from the matches in organised meet-ups but from what I gather this is a dying element. Also if you are just talking about fans who go to every away game and support football as their life, well there are hundreds of thousands of them in this country. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On May 24 2012 21:12 Latty wrote: i only can imagine :D but Ultra is a latin word, means "above all" or "beyond that". sadly in the UK these kind of fan scenes do not really excist right? Not no more no, if you rewind back to the 70s this is where the hardcore football fans lived and caused lots and lots and lots of trouble just like your Ultras. Still today if you google Milwall football club you will find out all you need to know about the "Ultras" of England. Chelsea can still be pretty bad if you prevoke them in the wrong area and will go headhunting | ||
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Latty
Germany567 Posts
i mean like organised support, flags, banners of fanclubs, choreographies against rivals and stuff like that. i never see flags waving or huge crowds singing when i watch PL. violence has no place in football if you ask me... organised meet-ups and fight has nothing to do with Ultras. thats hooliganism and this is not what ultra stands for. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On May 24 2012 20:49 NuclearJudas wrote: Nice read on Goal.com about Villareal's fall from grace, and what it means for the club. Still can't believe they fell out. Marcos Senna decided to stay. I really hope they can bounce right back up. Really sad especially because they are debt free and where just really unlucky. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On May 24 2012 21:36 Latty wrote: nono i dont mean pitch invasions and flares. i mean like organised support, flags, banners of fanclubs, choreographies against rivals and stuff like that. i never see flags waving or huge crowds singing when i watch PL. violence has no place in football if you ask me... organised meet-ups and fight has nothing to do with Ultras. thats hooliganism and this is not what ultra stands for. In that case yeah there is that with every club. Lots of fans meet up in bars and areas before matches. Singing songs getting drunk and having a good time. Did you see any of the pictures of the Chelsea fans in munich with there flags banners? Singing songs in your beer gardens and having a good time? Many of the fans i spoke and read from say the Munich fans were great and had good times with the Chelsea fans and was never any trouble. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On May 24 2012 21:36 Latty wrote: i mean like organised support, flags, banners of fanclubs, choreographies against rivals and stuff like that. i never see flags waving or huge crowds singing when i watch PL. Oh...what?? English fans are extremely loud singers, they have millions of chants, they all have kits and some teams have lots of flags. England is possibly the greatest nation at supporting its football in the world (that's combined throughout the nation- there are a few clubs who have insane support for example some of the turkish clubs). I have no idea what games you have been watching, whenever I watch Bundesliga or Serie A games or even many BBVA games the chanting seems fairly subdued to be honest,though it might be to do with the microphones used to record the event. Stoke City has been measured as having the loudest fans as well Here is a pretty good compilation: | ||
zatic
Zurich15365 Posts
The European league's development of football towards clean and neat family entertainment is what the Ultra-culture in other countries are fighting. Chants, flares, etc are their tools, and not what defines them. And this culture just doesn't exist in England, which resolved much of the dispute over how the league should feel in the 90ies. That doesn't mean that England doesn't have great fans, who would deny that. | ||
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