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2011-2012 football (soccer) thread - Page 452
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
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anomalopidae
Slovenia549 Posts
On May 23 2012 17:54 sharkie wrote: All you Barca supporters still havent realised why Barca has won nothing this year, right? It's their inability to score goals and Busquets is a large part of it. so, I guess if you score only 187 goals in one season that's really really bad, I mean if you have a team made out of cripples you'll score more goals than that right? | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On May 23 2012 18:41 anomalopidae wrote: so, I guess if you score only 187 goals in one season that's really really bad, I mean if you have a team made out of cripples you'll score more goals than that right? It is when you think they won nothing :S (even though that statement is wrong as im sure they will beat Bilbao saturday) | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/60OgS.jpg) Just posted on the chelsea foum with title "Nothing to Declare" LOL so funny | ||
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NuclearJudas
6546 Posts
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On May 23 2012 18:22 Stimp wrote: Chelsea was in turmoil, then Jon Obi Mikel came back from injury. He was shutting down bayern left and right in the final. Most underrated player in football. Flame away. Haha, I'm not sure I can agree with you about the first sentence. He DID have an amazing game against Bayern for sure. He is underrated but he isn't world class imo, he consistently gave the ball away whenever he was on the pitch in the league even if he is good at defending. Basically, most dangerous players in Chelsea for giving away possession are Mikel, Meireles, Ramires, Luiz. Mostly because of suspect passing, and Meireles because he shoots all the time with about a 1% chance of scoring. I think Ramires and Luiz balance out their failures with other aspects (though I think Luiz would be better at Barca). I would never be able to put Mikel or Meireles on the same level as Makelele or even prime Essien. As much as Meireles has been good playing his role in the team, there are many players we could bring in who could do the same but not take so many god damned potshots. Mikel is a nice backup though  . | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On May 23 2012 18:44 Pandemona wrote: It is when you think they won nothing :S (even though that statement is wrong as im sure they will beat Bilbao saturday) However 'minor' you think they are, Barca have won 3 other trophies already. Anywho, it speaks to Barca's brilliance, and everyone's acknowledgement of that, that people ride them so hard for failing to win the 2 big competitions for 1 season. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Scoring 187 goals finishing 2nd in league and semi finalists in Champs League, not so good. Its like last year Chelsea won nothing and it was dubbed a shit season and resulting in manager being sacked, and we dont have the squad of Barca! So i guess you have to point fingers at them and say it was a bad season and they would probably agree. Pretty sure they will bounce back, and i wish them the best of luck. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On May 23 2012 21:05 Pandemona wrote: Well they won the Super Cup vs a Porto team without there manager? World Club championship which they SHOULD win and i guess the equivilant to the Community Shield in Spain? that makes the 3 already. The only one of value is the Copa Del Ray/Super cup. Super cup they made hard work off vs Porto went 1-0 down? Fought back when Porto went down to 10men? Won 2-1? Not sure vaguely remember it. Scoring 187 goals finishing 2nd in league and semi finalists in Champs League, not so good. Its like last year Chelsea won nothing and it was dubbed a shit season and resulting in manager being sacked, and we dont have the squad of Barca! So i guess you have to point fingers at them and say it was a bad season and they would probably agree. Pretty sure they will bounce back, and i wish them the best of luck. It just means they fluffed their lines on certain occasions and didnt perform when it really counted. Its very human. No one can win everything. Scoring 187 goals and finishing second just points out that the actual winner in the league was much better and well the semi was the semi, sometimes you dont put away what your supposed to and it doesnt work. Big deal. As for Yaya Toure scoring important goals. It seems like no one actually saw Yaya Toure playing at Barca because they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. Yaya Toure scored a grand total of like 5 ? goals in the 3-4 seasons he was there and his appearances were limited. He rarely got the playing time he deserved (and thats no ones fault the team was just stacked and working to well) and if he did it was in bit part roles filling in for injured CB's or coming of the bench. So no even if he had hung around at Barca it would have been same old same old. Toure benefitted strongly from people like Nasri flopping for the most part and Silva having a poor second half of the season and well just his all round drive in a team that was more suited to him playing the way he does. For better or worse Barca would not have allowed to do that, too many weapons already there, they dont need Toure to score goals. They need to put away the chances they get, and on these occasions the people who usually do, didnt. Assuming that a Yaya Toure or a Seydou Keita should be depended upon or is in anyway some kinda of necessity as a goal threat is just being greedy. Xabi Alonso doesnt score goals like he used to at Liverpool at Real, wonder why that is ? He doesnt have to, and that additional element of the "important goal" is just a luxury that you shouldnt have to depend upon when you need a goal. | ||
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TranceStorm
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
On May 23 2012 20:48 NuclearJudas wrote: Busquets is obviously a very good DM. Not sure where I would place him, as I haven't seen much of La Liga this season, but he didn't impress me in CL. I'm not a big fan because of his theatrics and he pulls some pretty crazy tackles to get silly cards. Yaya is definitely my MVP DM this year. Mikel is a good candidate as well, although not yet on that level. Kid was sick against Bayern. I never seen Busquets tackle. He steals the ball away by anticipating plays most of the time, very effective way. He's very underrated in the Barca system imo. But I agree Yaya this season has been easily the best, the guy can also play as an AM without a problem as well. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On May 24 2012 05:43 Ysellian wrote: 12 games suspension for Joey Barton! I would have given him an entire season ban. | ||
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MetalMarine
United States1559 Posts
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On May 24 2012 06:48 MetalMarine wrote: What did he do He assaulted Sergio Aguero after the whistle was blown and he was sent off. | ||
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greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
On May 24 2012 06:51 sc4k wrote: I have a question guys, who creates the stats for football manager? Some of them are amazing and turn out to be scarily accurate when players go forward in their careers. A prime example was how amazing the game rated Papiss Cisse, and then he got bought by newcastle and the rest is history. I remember reading about it and most of their staff doing just that - scouting and adjusting the numbers. Supposedly some teams actually send approximate ratings in to them. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Fuck, something about English clubs in the Champions League is just epic as hell, so much grit and determination. I'm sure the intensity of the support must be part of it. The fans of every team in the prem are just insanely zealous and many put everything they have into their club. Guess this sums it up lol + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhrdvzflnc1qcycq7o1_500.jpg) Now if only our national team could show some of the grit that English clubs show regularly, we might be getting somewhere. | ||
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Kotreb
Croatia1392 Posts
On May 24 2012 07:20 greggy wrote: I remember reading about it and most of their staff doing just that - scouting and adjusting the numbers. Supposedly some teams actually send approximate ratings in to them. yeah, and they have volunteers or smtgh like that (small to no pay) around the world and they also send them reports and they collaborate with clubs, i think at least. | ||
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Craze
United States561 Posts
On May 24 2012 05:43 Ysellian wrote: 12 games suspension for Joey Barton! Not enough, that guys a joke. | ||
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