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On October 06 2012 09:20 MilesTeg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 09:04 Probe1 wrote:On October 06 2012 08:46 ArcticFox wrote:On October 06 2012 07:47 LovE- wrote:On October 06 2012 07:06 Fyrewolf wrote:On October 06 2012 06:39 LovE- wrote:I just bought FF7 for pc 3 days ago and I remember why this is my favorite game. I have about 14 hours logged already and it's so fun reliving this game. After all.. it was the first game I ever played  Currently at Cosmo Canyon.. Although I think I'm at a low level for where I'm at. Everyone in my party is at ~22.. Does that seem right? I tried to Google it but didn't really see much. Oh and I played and beat FF1 a few months ago when I got my wisdom teeth removed.. Good times with that game too. I think I am going to hook up my PS and start playing them all again.. Doesn't sound like you are too low level, first time I played the game(on pc) I was lvl 27 when I beat the game, and it was my first ff game. I was probably underleveled at the end though, because I'm always way higher when I play now. Maybe it's because I take my time with it more now. I enjoy every single second of ff7. Last time I played was a couple months ago, played for 2.5 hours, died. Hadn't saved. Booted it up again and played for 5 more hours. Didn't even care that I lost all that time(was at climbing the sector support tower), or how horrendous the graphics actually look nowadays(char arms with no elbows just look like blocky sausage link chains). Ended up getting every character to lvl 99 and was farming sources in the gelnika in that playthrough. Stopped playing for a month or two, then went back and just kicked sephiroth's ass to finish it instead of messing around more. I've probably spent more time just playing the snowboarding minigame than most people have spent on all of ff7. It's hard to say which is better between 6 and 7 since they are both excellent and so different, but I love every second of ff7. Yeah I remember playing it through one time and beating Sephiroth at around level 59 but it was a tough battle. I think I am going to spend a few hours leveling up everyone's limits since I have only been using Cloud Barret and Yuffie. I'm pretty sure that I'm at the point where Red XIII is forced into my party so it would be good to at least get his up. I told myself I would use Aeris this time around but... yeah. That didn't happen. Why put the time into her when she's just going to.. well you know  + Show Spoiler [Aeris] +
When I was a little nerdling in high school, I bought FFVII as soon as I could afford it and a PS1. FFVII had been out for about 3 months when I got it, but I was having an absolute blast with it. I got Aeris in my party for the typical adolescent boy team comp of Cloud, Tifa, and Aeris. I had just gone on the date with her at the Gold Saucer when the weekend was over, and I went to school the next day.
When lunchtime came around, I sat around with a couple of other nerdlings tallking about video games, and FFVII came up, so we were talking about our favorite team comps. When I said that I loved the Cloud/Tifa/Aeris comp for the balanced melee + caster + hero comp, there was one little weasel faced son of a bitch that said, "Yea, Aeris is good, but she dies halfway through."
I punched that fucker right in the mouth. I didn't speak to him for the rest of the year.
+ Show Spoiler +Anyway I want to know why so few people love FF8. I mean what the hell. I love FF8. I am the center of everyones universe. Why don't more people love what I love more than anything they love. Some people didn't understand the battle system. Some are too insecure to like a game centered on a love story. Others were just expecting something similar to FFVII. In any case what matters is: they're wrong :p
Some people just can't enjoy a game with level scaling, hence why no one plays unmodded Elder Scrolls 4 any more.
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On October 06 2012 09:20 MilesTeg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 09:04 Probe1 wrote:On October 06 2012 08:46 ArcticFox wrote:On October 06 2012 07:47 LovE- wrote:On October 06 2012 07:06 Fyrewolf wrote:On October 06 2012 06:39 LovE- wrote:I just bought FF7 for pc 3 days ago and I remember why this is my favorite game. I have about 14 hours logged already and it's so fun reliving this game. After all.. it was the first game I ever played Currently at Cosmo Canyon.. Although I think I'm at a low level for where I'm at. Everyone in my party is at ~22.. Does that seem right? I tried to Google it but didn't really see much. Oh and I played and beat FF1 a few months ago when I got my wisdom teeth removed.. Good times with that game too. I think I am going to hook up my PS and start playing them all again.. Doesn't sound like you are too low level, first time I played the game(on pc) I was lvl 27 when I beat the game, and it was my first ff game. I was probably underleveled at the end though, because I'm always way higher when I play now. Maybe it's because I take my time with it more now. I enjoy every single second of ff7. Last time I played was a couple months ago, played for 2.5 hours, died. Hadn't saved. Booted it up again and played for 5 more hours. Didn't even care that I lost all that time(was at climbing the sector support tower), or how horrendous the graphics actually look nowadays(char arms with no elbows just look like blocky sausage link chains). Ended up getting every character to lvl 99 and was farming sources in the gelnika in that playthrough. Stopped playing for a month or two, then went back and just kicked sephiroth's ass to finish it instead of messing around more. I've probably spent more time just playing the snowboarding minigame than most people have spent on all of ff7. It's hard to say which is better between 6 and 7 since they are both excellent and so different, but I love every second of ff7. Yeah I remember playing it through one time and beating Sephiroth at around level 59 but it was a tough battle. I think I am going to spend a few hours leveling up everyone's limits since I have only been using Cloud Barret and Yuffie. I'm pretty sure that I'm at the point where Red XIII is forced into my party so it would be good to at least get his up. I told myself I would use Aeris this time around but... yeah. That didn't happen. Why put the time into her when she's just going to.. well you know + Show Spoiler [Aeris] +
When I was a little nerdling in high school, I bought FFVII as soon as I could afford it and a PS1. FFVII had been out for about 3 months when I got it, but I was having an absolute blast with it. I got Aeris in my party for the typical adolescent boy team comp of Cloud, Tifa, and Aeris. I had just gone on the date with her at the Gold Saucer when the weekend was over, and I went to school the next day.
When lunchtime came around, I sat around with a couple of other nerdlings tallking about video games, and FFVII came up, so we were talking about our favorite team comps. When I said that I loved the Cloud/Tifa/Aeris comp for the balanced melee + caster + hero comp, there was one little weasel faced son of a bitch that said, "Yea, Aeris is good, but she dies halfway through."
I punched that fucker right in the mouth. I didn't speak to him for the rest of the year.
+ Show Spoiler +Anyway I want to know why so few people love FF8. I mean what the hell. I love FF8. I am the center of everyones universe. Why don't more people love what I love more than anything they love. Some people didn't understand the battle system. Some are too insecure to like a game centered on a love story. Others were just expecting something similar to FFVII. In any case what matters is: they're wrong :p
Disagree on all of your points. The battle system (excluding drawing) is one of my favorites. Junctioning was a good way to augment stats and, the gf system was fun. The story was really good too until time compression is mentioned.
8 really didn't do that much wrong but what they did wrong they really fucked up. Drawing magic is the stupidest decision in an ff game before deciding to make 10-2. Spending an hour making sure you have 300 life spells to junction to your life stat isn't playing the game it's an unnecessary grind. To make it even worse, I hope you red up on the game if it's your first play through because you shouldn't kill the monsters you draw from all game because monster stats scale disproportionately to yours.
Aside from that my main complaints are the Laguna flashbacks. They add so little to the story and every time I've hit them it was like the game telling me to take a break because I lacked the motivation to run through and watch cutscenes with a loose affiliation to the story. Same deal with NORG + Show Spoiler + cool concept of a secret owner of garden, but instead of fleeing it out and adding a new dynamic to the story they just added it in as a way of saying "get you haven't had a real boss fight in a while so here you go.
Again, it's not a bad game at all but it just didn't have the same sort engrossing feel that 7 & 9 had.
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On October 06 2012 11:13 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 09:20 MilesTeg wrote:On October 06 2012 09:04 Probe1 wrote:On October 06 2012 08:46 ArcticFox wrote:On October 06 2012 07:47 LovE- wrote:On October 06 2012 07:06 Fyrewolf wrote:On October 06 2012 06:39 LovE- wrote:I just bought FF7 for pc 3 days ago and I remember why this is my favorite game. I have about 14 hours logged already and it's so fun reliving this game. After all.. it was the first game I ever played Currently at Cosmo Canyon.. Although I think I'm at a low level for where I'm at. Everyone in my party is at ~22.. Does that seem right? I tried to Google it but didn't really see much. Oh and I played and beat FF1 a few months ago when I got my wisdom teeth removed.. Good times with that game too. I think I am going to hook up my PS and start playing them all again.. Doesn't sound like you are too low level, first time I played the game(on pc) I was lvl 27 when I beat the game, and it was my first ff game. I was probably underleveled at the end though, because I'm always way higher when I play now. Maybe it's because I take my time with it more now. I enjoy every single second of ff7. Last time I played was a couple months ago, played for 2.5 hours, died. Hadn't saved. Booted it up again and played for 5 more hours. Didn't even care that I lost all that time(was at climbing the sector support tower), or how horrendous the graphics actually look nowadays(char arms with no elbows just look like blocky sausage link chains). Ended up getting every character to lvl 99 and was farming sources in the gelnika in that playthrough. Stopped playing for a month or two, then went back and just kicked sephiroth's ass to finish it instead of messing around more. I've probably spent more time just playing the snowboarding minigame than most people have spent on all of ff7. It's hard to say which is better between 6 and 7 since they are both excellent and so different, but I love every second of ff7. Yeah I remember playing it through one time and beating Sephiroth at around level 59 but it was a tough battle. I think I am going to spend a few hours leveling up everyone's limits since I have only been using Cloud Barret and Yuffie. I'm pretty sure that I'm at the point where Red XIII is forced into my party so it would be good to at least get his up. I told myself I would use Aeris this time around but... yeah. That didn't happen. Why put the time into her when she's just going to.. well you know + Show Spoiler [Aeris] +
When I was a little nerdling in high school, I bought FFVII as soon as I could afford it and a PS1. FFVII had been out for about 3 months when I got it, but I was having an absolute blast with it. I got Aeris in my party for the typical adolescent boy team comp of Cloud, Tifa, and Aeris. I had just gone on the date with her at the Gold Saucer when the weekend was over, and I went to school the next day.
When lunchtime came around, I sat around with a couple of other nerdlings tallking about video games, and FFVII came up, so we were talking about our favorite team comps. When I said that I loved the Cloud/Tifa/Aeris comp for the balanced melee + caster + hero comp, there was one little weasel faced son of a bitch that said, "Yea, Aeris is good, but she dies halfway through."
I punched that fucker right in the mouth. I didn't speak to him for the rest of the year.
+ Show Spoiler +Anyway I want to know why so few people love FF8. I mean what the hell. I love FF8. I am the center of everyones universe. Why don't more people love what I love more than anything they love. Some people didn't understand the battle system. Some are too insecure to like a game centered on a love story. Others were just expecting something similar to FFVII. In any case what matters is: they're wrong :p Disagree on all of your points. The battle system (excluding drawing) is one of my favorites. Junctioning was a good way to augment stats and, the gf system was fun. The story was really good too until time compression is mentioned. 8 really didn't do that much wrong but what they did wrong they really fucked up. Drawing magic is the stupidest decision in an ff game before deciding to make 10-2. Spending an hour making sure you have 300 life spells to junction to your life stat isn't playing the game it's an unnecessary grind. To make it even worse, I hope you red up on the game if it's your first play through because you shouldn't kill the monsters you draw from all game because monster stats scale disproportionately to yours. Aside from that my main complaints are the Laguna flashbacks. They add so little to the story and every time I've hit them it was like the game telling me to take a break because I lacked the motivation to run through and watch cutscenes with a loose affiliation to the story. Same deal with NORG + Show Spoiler + cool concept of a secret owner of garden, but instead of fleeing it out and adding a new dynamic to the story they just added it in as a way of saying "get you haven't had a real boss fight in a while so here you go. Again, it's not a bad game at all but it just didn't have the same sort engrossing feel that 7 & 9 had.
The junction system is hilariously imbalanced if you know how to abuse it (card game zzz). I'm at the end of disk one and I just KO'd Edea in one normal attack for 7k damage. Completely takes the challenge out of the game but that's what makes it fun (for me). The story may be stupid sometimes and some of the characters may be a bit vacuous (lol selphie), but in terms of style and atmosphere, it's currently my favorite FF game (behind 6 of course).
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8 was legit. The card game in and of itself is a solid card game. The characters were a bit... Well, I'll mark it as a weak point, but you had total customization on how overpowered you wanted to be. Maybe it's just me but I liked the grindiness of the game (which you didn't have to do, level scaling for casuals!) combined with how fun boss fights could be. Plus how can you hate Zell?
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On October 08 2012 11:50 ratzlp0li wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 11:13 Stutters695 wrote:On October 06 2012 09:20 MilesTeg wrote:On October 06 2012 09:04 Probe1 wrote:On October 06 2012 08:46 ArcticFox wrote:On October 06 2012 07:47 LovE- wrote:On October 06 2012 07:06 Fyrewolf wrote:On October 06 2012 06:39 LovE- wrote:I just bought FF7 for pc 3 days ago and I remember why this is my favorite game. I have about 14 hours logged already and it's so fun reliving this game. After all.. it was the first game I ever played Currently at Cosmo Canyon.. Although I think I'm at a low level for where I'm at. Everyone in my party is at ~22.. Does that seem right? I tried to Google it but didn't really see much. Oh and I played and beat FF1 a few months ago when I got my wisdom teeth removed.. Good times with that game too. I think I am going to hook up my PS and start playing them all again.. Doesn't sound like you are too low level, first time I played the game(on pc) I was lvl 27 when I beat the game, and it was my first ff game. I was probably underleveled at the end though, because I'm always way higher when I play now. Maybe it's because I take my time with it more now. I enjoy every single second of ff7. Last time I played was a couple months ago, played for 2.5 hours, died. Hadn't saved. Booted it up again and played for 5 more hours. Didn't even care that I lost all that time(was at climbing the sector support tower), or how horrendous the graphics actually look nowadays(char arms with no elbows just look like blocky sausage link chains). Ended up getting every character to lvl 99 and was farming sources in the gelnika in that playthrough. Stopped playing for a month or two, then went back and just kicked sephiroth's ass to finish it instead of messing around more. I've probably spent more time just playing the snowboarding minigame than most people have spent on all of ff7. It's hard to say which is better between 6 and 7 since they are both excellent and so different, but I love every second of ff7. Yeah I remember playing it through one time and beating Sephiroth at around level 59 but it was a tough battle. I think I am going to spend a few hours leveling up everyone's limits since I have only been using Cloud Barret and Yuffie. I'm pretty sure that I'm at the point where Red XIII is forced into my party so it would be good to at least get his up. I told myself I would use Aeris this time around but... yeah. That didn't happen. Why put the time into her when she's just going to.. well you know + Show Spoiler [Aeris] +
When I was a little nerdling in high school, I bought FFVII as soon as I could afford it and a PS1. FFVII had been out for about 3 months when I got it, but I was having an absolute blast with it. I got Aeris in my party for the typical adolescent boy team comp of Cloud, Tifa, and Aeris. I had just gone on the date with her at the Gold Saucer when the weekend was over, and I went to school the next day.
When lunchtime came around, I sat around with a couple of other nerdlings tallking about video games, and FFVII came up, so we were talking about our favorite team comps. When I said that I loved the Cloud/Tifa/Aeris comp for the balanced melee + caster + hero comp, there was one little weasel faced son of a bitch that said, "Yea, Aeris is good, but she dies halfway through."
I punched that fucker right in the mouth. I didn't speak to him for the rest of the year.
+ Show Spoiler +Anyway I want to know why so few people love FF8. I mean what the hell. I love FF8. I am the center of everyones universe. Why don't more people love what I love more than anything they love. Some people didn't understand the battle system. Some are too insecure to like a game centered on a love story. Others were just expecting something similar to FFVII. In any case what matters is: they're wrong :p Disagree on all of your points. The battle system (excluding drawing) is one of my favorites. Junctioning was a good way to augment stats and, the gf system was fun. The story was really good too until time compression is mentioned. 8 really didn't do that much wrong but what they did wrong they really fucked up. Drawing magic is the stupidest decision in an ff game before deciding to make 10-2. Spending an hour making sure you have 300 life spells to junction to your life stat isn't playing the game it's an unnecessary grind. To make it even worse, I hope you red up on the game if it's your first play through because you shouldn't kill the monsters you draw from all game because monster stats scale disproportionately to yours. Aside from that my main complaints are the Laguna flashbacks. They add so little to the story and every time I've hit them it was like the game telling me to take a break because I lacked the motivation to run through and watch cutscenes with a loose affiliation to the story. Same deal with NORG + Show Spoiler + cool concept of a secret owner of garden, but instead of fleeing it out and adding a new dynamic to the story they just added it in as a way of saying "get you haven't had a real boss fight in a while so here you go. Again, it's not a bad game at all but it just didn't have the same sort engrossing feel that 7 & 9 had. The junction system is hilariously imbalanced if you know how to abuse it (card game zzz). I'm at the end of disk one and I just KO'd Edea in one normal attack for 7k damage. Completely takes the challenge out of the game but that's what makes it fun (for me). The story may be stupid sometimes and some of the characters may be a bit vacuous (lol selphie), but in terms of style and atmosphere, it's currently my favorite FF game (behind 6 of course).
Junctioning is awesome because you can basically adjust the difficulty at any point by imposing restrictions on you. There was one game where thanks to Card Mod and farming, I was lvl 25 and had 100 Quakes and a bunch of other stuff junctioned before the SeeD exam. Another game I just played through with no farming/card games and it was significantly harder.
Every time I play through the game, though, I get less and less impressed with Squall. I was one of the loner kids in middle/high school so I kinda identified with him at one point, but he has angst turned up past 11 to the point of ridiculousness. Still my favorite, but was my first modern one (played it before 7 but after 1) so I guess it comes with the territory. The music is freakin amazing.
@above: I hate Zell. I love Laguna/Ward/Kiros and Quistis/Selphie though.
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On October 08 2012 12:16 deth2munkies wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2012 11:50 ratzlp0li wrote:On October 06 2012 11:13 Stutters695 wrote:On October 06 2012 09:20 MilesTeg wrote:On October 06 2012 09:04 Probe1 wrote:On October 06 2012 08:46 ArcticFox wrote:On October 06 2012 07:47 LovE- wrote:On October 06 2012 07:06 Fyrewolf wrote:On October 06 2012 06:39 LovE- wrote:I just bought FF7 for pc 3 days ago and I remember why this is my favorite game. I have about 14 hours logged already and it's so fun reliving this game. After all.. it was the first game I ever played Currently at Cosmo Canyon.. Although I think I'm at a low level for where I'm at. Everyone in my party is at ~22.. Does that seem right? I tried to Google it but didn't really see much. Oh and I played and beat FF1 a few months ago when I got my wisdom teeth removed.. Good times with that game too. I think I am going to hook up my PS and start playing them all again.. Doesn't sound like you are too low level, first time I played the game(on pc) I was lvl 27 when I beat the game, and it was my first ff game. I was probably underleveled at the end though, because I'm always way higher when I play now. Maybe it's because I take my time with it more now. I enjoy every single second of ff7. Last time I played was a couple months ago, played for 2.5 hours, died. Hadn't saved. Booted it up again and played for 5 more hours. Didn't even care that I lost all that time(was at climbing the sector support tower), or how horrendous the graphics actually look nowadays(char arms with no elbows just look like blocky sausage link chains). Ended up getting every character to lvl 99 and was farming sources in the gelnika in that playthrough. Stopped playing for a month or two, then went back and just kicked sephiroth's ass to finish it instead of messing around more. I've probably spent more time just playing the snowboarding minigame than most people have spent on all of ff7. It's hard to say which is better between 6 and 7 since they are both excellent and so different, but I love every second of ff7. Yeah I remember playing it through one time and beating Sephiroth at around level 59 but it was a tough battle. I think I am going to spend a few hours leveling up everyone's limits since I have only been using Cloud Barret and Yuffie. I'm pretty sure that I'm at the point where Red XIII is forced into my party so it would be good to at least get his up. I told myself I would use Aeris this time around but... yeah. That didn't happen. Why put the time into her when she's just going to.. well you know + Show Spoiler [Aeris] +
When I was a little nerdling in high school, I bought FFVII as soon as I could afford it and a PS1. FFVII had been out for about 3 months when I got it, but I was having an absolute blast with it. I got Aeris in my party for the typical adolescent boy team comp of Cloud, Tifa, and Aeris. I had just gone on the date with her at the Gold Saucer when the weekend was over, and I went to school the next day.
When lunchtime came around, I sat around with a couple of other nerdlings tallking about video games, and FFVII came up, so we were talking about our favorite team comps. When I said that I loved the Cloud/Tifa/Aeris comp for the balanced melee + caster + hero comp, there was one little weasel faced son of a bitch that said, "Yea, Aeris is good, but she dies halfway through."
I punched that fucker right in the mouth. I didn't speak to him for the rest of the year.
+ Show Spoiler +Anyway I want to know why so few people love FF8. I mean what the hell. I love FF8. I am the center of everyones universe. Why don't more people love what I love more than anything they love. Some people didn't understand the battle system. Some are too insecure to like a game centered on a love story. Others were just expecting something similar to FFVII. In any case what matters is: they're wrong :p Disagree on all of your points. The battle system (excluding drawing) is one of my favorites. Junctioning was a good way to augment stats and, the gf system was fun. The story was really good too until time compression is mentioned. 8 really didn't do that much wrong but what they did wrong they really fucked up. Drawing magic is the stupidest decision in an ff game before deciding to make 10-2. Spending an hour making sure you have 300 life spells to junction to your life stat isn't playing the game it's an unnecessary grind. To make it even worse, I hope you red up on the game if it's your first play through because you shouldn't kill the monsters you draw from all game because monster stats scale disproportionately to yours. Aside from that my main complaints are the Laguna flashbacks. They add so little to the story and every time I've hit them it was like the game telling me to take a break because I lacked the motivation to run through and watch cutscenes with a loose affiliation to the story. Same deal with NORG + Show Spoiler + cool concept of a secret owner of garden, but instead of fleeing it out and adding a new dynamic to the story they just added it in as a way of saying "get you haven't had a real boss fight in a while so here you go. Again, it's not a bad game at all but it just didn't have the same sort engrossing feel that 7 & 9 had. The junction system is hilariously imbalanced if you know how to abuse it (card game zzz). I'm at the end of disk one and I just KO'd Edea in one normal attack for 7k damage. Completely takes the challenge out of the game but that's what makes it fun (for me). The story may be stupid sometimes and some of the characters may be a bit vacuous (lol selphie), but in terms of style and atmosphere, it's currently my favorite FF game (behind 6 of course). Junctioning is awesome because you can basically adjust the difficulty at any point by imposing restrictions on you. There was one game where thanks to Card Mod and farming, I was lvl 25 and had 100 Quakes and a bunch of other stuff junctioned before the SeeD exam. Another game I just played through with no farming/card games and it was significantly harder. Every time I play through the game, though, I get less and less impressed with Squall. I was one of the loner kids in middle/high school so I kinda identified with him at one point, but he has angst turned up past 11 to the point of ridiculousness. Still my favorite, but was my first modern one (played it before 7 but after 1) so I guess it comes with the territory. The music is freakin amazing. @above: I hate Zell. I love Laguna/Ward/Kiros and Quistis/Selphie though.
You have no soul. Zell is a misunderstood legend.
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On October 08 2012 12:20 Zdrastochye wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2012 12:16 deth2munkies wrote:On October 08 2012 11:50 ratzlp0li wrote:On October 06 2012 11:13 Stutters695 wrote:On October 06 2012 09:20 MilesTeg wrote:On October 06 2012 09:04 Probe1 wrote:On October 06 2012 08:46 ArcticFox wrote:On October 06 2012 07:47 LovE- wrote:On October 06 2012 07:06 Fyrewolf wrote:On October 06 2012 06:39 LovE- wrote:I just bought FF7 for pc 3 days ago and I remember why this is my favorite game. I have about 14 hours logged already and it's so fun reliving this game. After all.. it was the first game I ever played Currently at Cosmo Canyon.. Although I think I'm at a low level for where I'm at. Everyone in my party is at ~22.. Does that seem right? I tried to Google it but didn't really see much. Oh and I played and beat FF1 a few months ago when I got my wisdom teeth removed.. Good times with that game too. I think I am going to hook up my PS and start playing them all again.. Doesn't sound like you are too low level, first time I played the game(on pc) I was lvl 27 when I beat the game, and it was my first ff game. I was probably underleveled at the end though, because I'm always way higher when I play now. Maybe it's because I take my time with it more now. I enjoy every single second of ff7. Last time I played was a couple months ago, played for 2.5 hours, died. Hadn't saved. Booted it up again and played for 5 more hours. Didn't even care that I lost all that time(was at climbing the sector support tower), or how horrendous the graphics actually look nowadays(char arms with no elbows just look like blocky sausage link chains). Ended up getting every character to lvl 99 and was farming sources in the gelnika in that playthrough. Stopped playing for a month or two, then went back and just kicked sephiroth's ass to finish it instead of messing around more. I've probably spent more time just playing the snowboarding minigame than most people have spent on all of ff7. It's hard to say which is better between 6 and 7 since they are both excellent and so different, but I love every second of ff7. Yeah I remember playing it through one time and beating Sephiroth at around level 59 but it was a tough battle. I think I am going to spend a few hours leveling up everyone's limits since I have only been using Cloud Barret and Yuffie. I'm pretty sure that I'm at the point where Red XIII is forced into my party so it would be good to at least get his up. I told myself I would use Aeris this time around but... yeah. That didn't happen. Why put the time into her when she's just going to.. well you know + Show Spoiler [Aeris] +
When I was a little nerdling in high school, I bought FFVII as soon as I could afford it and a PS1. FFVII had been out for about 3 months when I got it, but I was having an absolute blast with it. I got Aeris in my party for the typical adolescent boy team comp of Cloud, Tifa, and Aeris. I had just gone on the date with her at the Gold Saucer when the weekend was over, and I went to school the next day.
When lunchtime came around, I sat around with a couple of other nerdlings tallking about video games, and FFVII came up, so we were talking about our favorite team comps. When I said that I loved the Cloud/Tifa/Aeris comp for the balanced melee + caster + hero comp, there was one little weasel faced son of a bitch that said, "Yea, Aeris is good, but she dies halfway through."
I punched that fucker right in the mouth. I didn't speak to him for the rest of the year.
+ Show Spoiler +Anyway I want to know why so few people love FF8. I mean what the hell. I love FF8. I am the center of everyones universe. Why don't more people love what I love more than anything they love. Some people didn't understand the battle system. Some are too insecure to like a game centered on a love story. Others were just expecting something similar to FFVII. In any case what matters is: they're wrong :p Disagree on all of your points. The battle system (excluding drawing) is one of my favorites. Junctioning was a good way to augment stats and, the gf system was fun. The story was really good too until time compression is mentioned. 8 really didn't do that much wrong but what they did wrong they really fucked up. Drawing magic is the stupidest decision in an ff game before deciding to make 10-2. Spending an hour making sure you have 300 life spells to junction to your life stat isn't playing the game it's an unnecessary grind. To make it even worse, I hope you red up on the game if it's your first play through because you shouldn't kill the monsters you draw from all game because monster stats scale disproportionately to yours. Aside from that my main complaints are the Laguna flashbacks. They add so little to the story and every time I've hit them it was like the game telling me to take a break because I lacked the motivation to run through and watch cutscenes with a loose affiliation to the story. Same deal with NORG + Show Spoiler + cool concept of a secret owner of garden, but instead of fleeing it out and adding a new dynamic to the story they just added it in as a way of saying "get you haven't had a real boss fight in a while so here you go. Again, it's not a bad game at all but it just didn't have the same sort engrossing feel that 7 & 9 had. The junction system is hilariously imbalanced if you know how to abuse it (card game zzz). I'm at the end of disk one and I just KO'd Edea in one normal attack for 7k damage. Completely takes the challenge out of the game but that's what makes it fun (for me). The story may be stupid sometimes and some of the characters may be a bit vacuous (lol selphie), but in terms of style and atmosphere, it's currently my favorite FF game (behind 6 of course). Junctioning is awesome because you can basically adjust the difficulty at any point by imposing restrictions on you. There was one game where thanks to Card Mod and farming, I was lvl 25 and had 100 Quakes and a bunch of other stuff junctioned before the SeeD exam. Another game I just played through with no farming/card games and it was significantly harder. Every time I play through the game, though, I get less and less impressed with Squall. I was one of the loner kids in middle/high school so I kinda identified with him at one point, but he has angst turned up past 11 to the point of ridiculousness. Still my favorite, but was my first modern one (played it before 7 but after 1) so I guess it comes with the territory. The music is freakin amazing. @above: I hate Zell. I love Laguna/Ward/Kiros and Quistis/Selphie though. You have no soul. Zell is a misunderstood legend.
Zell is the emotional equivalent of a hyperactive 10 year old: impulsive, vacuous, and whines when he doesn't get what he wants.
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On October 06 2012 11:13 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 09:20 MilesTeg wrote:On October 06 2012 09:04 Probe1 wrote:On October 06 2012 08:46 ArcticFox wrote:On October 06 2012 07:47 LovE- wrote:On October 06 2012 07:06 Fyrewolf wrote:On October 06 2012 06:39 LovE- wrote:I just bought FF7 for pc 3 days ago and I remember why this is my favorite game. I have about 14 hours logged already and it's so fun reliving this game. After all.. it was the first game I ever played Currently at Cosmo Canyon.. Although I think I'm at a low level for where I'm at. Everyone in my party is at ~22.. Does that seem right? I tried to Google it but didn't really see much. Oh and I played and beat FF1 a few months ago when I got my wisdom teeth removed.. Good times with that game too. I think I am going to hook up my PS and start playing them all again.. Doesn't sound like you are too low level, first time I played the game(on pc) I was lvl 27 when I beat the game, and it was my first ff game. I was probably underleveled at the end though, because I'm always way higher when I play now. Maybe it's because I take my time with it more now. I enjoy every single second of ff7. Last time I played was a couple months ago, played for 2.5 hours, died. Hadn't saved. Booted it up again and played for 5 more hours. Didn't even care that I lost all that time(was at climbing the sector support tower), or how horrendous the graphics actually look nowadays(char arms with no elbows just look like blocky sausage link chains). Ended up getting every character to lvl 99 and was farming sources in the gelnika in that playthrough. Stopped playing for a month or two, then went back and just kicked sephiroth's ass to finish it instead of messing around more. I've probably spent more time just playing the snowboarding minigame than most people have spent on all of ff7. It's hard to say which is better between 6 and 7 since they are both excellent and so different, but I love every second of ff7. Yeah I remember playing it through one time and beating Sephiroth at around level 59 but it was a tough battle. I think I am going to spend a few hours leveling up everyone's limits since I have only been using Cloud Barret and Yuffie. I'm pretty sure that I'm at the point where Red XIII is forced into my party so it would be good to at least get his up. I told myself I would use Aeris this time around but... yeah. That didn't happen. Why put the time into her when she's just going to.. well you know + Show Spoiler [Aeris] +
When I was a little nerdling in high school, I bought FFVII as soon as I could afford it and a PS1. FFVII had been out for about 3 months when I got it, but I was having an absolute blast with it. I got Aeris in my party for the typical adolescent boy team comp of Cloud, Tifa, and Aeris. I had just gone on the date with her at the Gold Saucer when the weekend was over, and I went to school the next day.
When lunchtime came around, I sat around with a couple of other nerdlings tallking about video games, and FFVII came up, so we were talking about our favorite team comps. When I said that I loved the Cloud/Tifa/Aeris comp for the balanced melee + caster + hero comp, there was one little weasel faced son of a bitch that said, "Yea, Aeris is good, but she dies halfway through."
I punched that fucker right in the mouth. I didn't speak to him for the rest of the year.
+ Show Spoiler +Anyway I want to know why so few people love FF8. I mean what the hell. I love FF8. I am the center of everyones universe. Why don't more people love what I love more than anything they love. Some people didn't understand the battle system. Some are too insecure to like a game centered on a love story. Others were just expecting something similar to FFVII. In any case what matters is: they're wrong :p Disagree on all of your points. The battle system (excluding drawing) is one of my favorites. Junctioning was a good way to augment stats and, the gf system was fun. The story was really good too until time compression is mentioned. 8 really didn't do that much wrong but what they did wrong they really fucked up. Drawing magic is the stupidest decision in an ff game before deciding to make 10-2. Spending an hour making sure you have 300 life spells to junction to your life stat isn't playing the game it's an unnecessary grind. To make it even worse, I hope you red up on the game if it's your first play through because you shouldn't kill the monsters you draw from all game because monster stats scale disproportionately to yours. Aside from that my main complaints are the Laguna flashbacks. They add so little to the story and every time I've hit them it was like the game telling me to take a break because I lacked the motivation to run through and watch cutscenes with a loose affiliation to the story. Same deal with NORG + Show Spoiler + cool concept of a secret owner of garden, but instead of fleeing it out and adding a new dynamic to the story they just added it in as a way of saying "get you haven't had a real boss fight in a while so here you go. Again, it's not a bad game at all but it just didn't have the same sort engrossing feel that 7 & 9 had.
My problem with the battle system is there is literally no strategy to how each battle or boss is approached. Sure, each character can is open to complete customization but once you get in the battle, there is almost nothing else worth using than the attack command. Compare that to FF4 where there is very little customization but a lot of variance in how each boss can be tackled. Level scaling is downright retarded for a linear JRPG like FF.
However, I still very much enjoyed the game after playing through it for the first time earlier this year. Ultimecia's castle might be my favorite final dungeon in all of FF and Esthar is a beautiful city to explore. Uematsu's score is incredible and, at the very least, the characters aren't intellectually offensive unlike FF10-2 or FF13.
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The music in the later series is completely gone. Its jusst elevator music. Final Fantasy 13 and 13-2 missed the charm that the other ones had. I think the save point vendors and stuff were the worst, I love city interactions. Going through Balamb Town or Lindblum or Rabanastre was always the highlight of my FF experiences.
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On October 08 2012 12:14 Zdrastochye wrote:
8 was legit. The card game in and of itself is a solid card game. The characters were a bit... Well, I'll mark it as a weak point, but you had total customization on how overpowered you wanted to be. Maybe it's just me but I liked the grindiness of the game (which you didn't have to do, level scaling for casuals!) combined with how fun boss fights could be. Plus how can you hate Zell?
I could ask the opposite question hahaha
Liked playing FF8 always but out off all the ff characters in 6-10,I think 8 for me has the weakest character personalities and story behind them.
Never felt a connection or sympathy for any of them really,Squal is just a whiny little emo bitch,Zell is a annoying hyperactive 10 year old(who reminds me of Joey in Yugioh btw,don't know why just does and it annoys me),hated Irvine and characters like Rino and Selphia never appeal to me and the only character I kinda liked was Quistis(coz I Iike her whip if you know what I'm saying huehue).
Now that I think about it I liked Laguna,Kiros and Ward far more than the main characters.
I think FF8 would have been a much better game,for me,if the characters were just older and a bit more serious.
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You should add a poll: for how many of us is our first FF still our favorite FF 
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On October 08 2012 12:48 deth2munkies wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2012 12:20 Zdrastochye wrote:On October 08 2012 12:16 deth2munkies wrote:On October 08 2012 11:50 ratzlp0li wrote:On October 06 2012 11:13 Stutters695 wrote:On October 06 2012 09:20 MilesTeg wrote:On October 06 2012 09:04 Probe1 wrote:On October 06 2012 08:46 ArcticFox wrote:On October 06 2012 07:47 LovE- wrote:On October 06 2012 07:06 Fyrewolf wrote:
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Doesn't sound like you are too low level, first time I played the game(on pc) I was lvl 27 when I beat the game, and it was my first ff game. I was probably underleveled at the end though, because I'm always way higher when I play now. Maybe it's because I take my time with it more now. I enjoy every single second of ff7. Last time I played was a couple months ago, played for 2.5 hours, died. Hadn't saved. Booted it up again and played for 5 more hours. Didn't even care that I lost all that time(was at climbing the sector support tower), or how horrendous the graphics actually look nowadays(char arms with no elbows just look like blocky sausage link chains). Ended up getting every character to lvl 99 and was farming sources in the gelnika in that playthrough. Stopped playing for a month or two, then went back and just kicked sephiroth's ass to finish it instead of messing around more. I've probably spent more time just playing the snowboarding minigame than most people have spent on all of ff7. It's hard to say which is better between 6 and 7 since they are both excellent and so different, but I love every second of ff7. Yeah I remember playing it through one time and beating Sephiroth at around level 59 but it was a tough battle. I think I am going to spend a few hours leveling up everyone's limits since I have only been using Cloud Barret and Yuffie. I'm pretty sure that I'm at the point where Red XIII is forced into my party so it would be good to at least get his up. I told myself I would use Aeris this time around but... yeah. That didn't happen. Why put the time into her when she's just going to.. well you know + Show Spoiler [Aeris] +
When I was a little nerdling in high school, I bought FFVII as soon as I could afford it and a PS1. FFVII had been out for about 3 months when I got it, but I was having an absolute blast with it. I got Aeris in my party for the typical adolescent boy team comp of Cloud, Tifa, and Aeris. I had just gone on the date with her at the Gold Saucer when the weekend was over, and I went to school the next day.
When lunchtime came around, I sat around with a couple of other nerdlings tallking about video games, and FFVII came up, so we were talking about our favorite team comps. When I said that I loved the Cloud/Tifa/Aeris comp for the balanced melee + caster + hero comp, there was one little weasel faced son of a bitch that said, "Yea, Aeris is good, but she dies halfway through."
I punched that fucker right in the mouth. I didn't speak to him for the rest of the year.
+ Show Spoiler +Anyway I want to know why so few people love FF8. I mean what the hell. I love FF8. I am the center of everyones universe. Why don't more people love what I love more than anything they love. Some people didn't understand the battle system. Some are too insecure to like a game centered on a love story. Others were just expecting something similar to FFVII. In any case what matters is: they're wrong :p Disagree on all of your points. The battle system (excluding drawing) is one of my favorites. Junctioning was a good way to augment stats and, the gf system was fun. The story was really good too until time compression is mentioned. 8 really didn't do that much wrong but what they did wrong they really fucked up. Drawing magic is the stupidest decision in an ff game before deciding to make 10-2. Spending an hour making sure you have 300 life spells to junction to your life stat isn't playing the game it's an unnecessary grind. To make it even worse, I hope you red up on the game if it's your first play through because you shouldn't kill the monsters you draw from all game because monster stats scale disproportionately to yours. Aside from that my main complaints are the Laguna flashbacks. They add so little to the story and every time I've hit them it was like the game telling me to take a break because I lacked the motivation to run through and watch cutscenes with a loose affiliation to the story. Same deal with NORG + Show Spoiler + cool concept of a secret owner of garden, but instead of fleeing it out and adding a new dynamic to the story they just added it in as a way of saying "get you haven't had a real boss fight in a while so here you go. Again, it's not a bad game at all but it just didn't have the same sort engrossing feel that 7 & 9 had. The junction system is hilariously imbalanced if you know how to abuse it (card game zzz). I'm at the end of disk one and I just KO'd Edea in one normal attack for 7k damage. Completely takes the challenge out of the game but that's what makes it fun (for me). The story may be stupid sometimes and some of the characters may be a bit vacuous (lol selphie), but in terms of style and atmosphere, it's currently my favorite FF game (behind 6 of course). Junctioning is awesome because you can basically adjust the difficulty at any point by imposing restrictions on you. There was one game where thanks to Card Mod and farming, I was lvl 25 and had 100 Quakes and a bunch of other stuff junctioned before the SeeD exam. Another game I just played through with no farming/card games and it was significantly harder. Every time I play through the game, though, I get less and less impressed with Squall. I was one of the loner kids in middle/high school so I kinda identified with him at one point, but he has angst turned up past 11 to the point of ridiculousness. Still my favorite, but was my first modern one (played it before 7 but after 1) so I guess it comes with the territory. The music is freakin amazing. @above: I hate Zell. I love Laguna/Ward/Kiros and Quistis/Selphie though. You have no soul. Zell is a misunderstood legend. Zell is the emotional equivalent of a hyperactive 10 year old: impulsive, vacuous, and whines when he doesn't get what he wants.
Nothing a chicken wuss wouldn't do.
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Glad to see support for FF8!
One of my top 5 games of all time
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I played FF8 last year and the gamer in me is completely unable to not use the strongest junctions available to me.
The fighting part is easily the worst if you know how the system works. I enjoy difficulty. Having to cripple yourself to have any difficulty for the first 2 discs is not fun.
Story was fun till the infamous "time compression" and even believable until "you are all from the same orphanage"
Seifer was somehow evil just because he has a badass outfit.
A couple of things wrong, still a good game. Just not the best in the series.
Also if you ask me, FF10 was the last Final Fantasy. 10-2 was mind numbing concept, then came the MMORPG and then the single player MMORPG with grind quests and all. After that I don´t even know anything besides how Snow, Lightning and Hope look like.
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On October 08 2012 19:51 aloT wrote:
The music in the later series is completely gone. Its jusst elevator music. Final Fantasy 13 and 13-2 missed the charm that the other ones had. I think the save point vendors and stuff were the worst, I love city interactions. Going through Balamb Town or Lindblum or Rabanastre was always the highlight of my FF experiences.
Well, 13 was the first full game that had no Nobuo Uematsu connection whatsoever, 13 was entirely Masashi Hamauzu. That's probably why the music feels so different. Hell, there's not even any connection to the traditional FF victory theme.
He didn't do much for 12 either (I think just Kiss Me Goodbye for the end credits? Maybe a little more), but there was some pretty sweet music in there such as Rabanastre (pretty sure that was Hitoshi Sakimoto). However, Nobuo Uematsu is a musical legend and I'm so happy to have met him several times in person now. Less than two months until seeing him again!
Also, the early games (1-5) really need more love from this thread.
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On October 08 2012 22:06 Mataza wrote:
I played FF8 last year and the gamer in me is completely unable to not use the strongest junctions available to me.
The fighting part is easily the worst if you know how the system works. I enjoy difficulty. Having to cripple yourself to have any difficulty for the first 2 discs is not fun.
Story was fun till the infamous "time compression" and even believable until "you are all from the same orphanage"
Seifer was somehow evil just because he has a badass outfit.
A couple of things wrong, still a good game. Just not the best in the series.
Also if you ask me, FF10 was the last Final Fantasy. 10-2 was mind numbing concept, then came the MMORPG and then the single player MMORPG with grind quests and all. After that I don´t even know anything besides how Snow, Lightning and Hope look like.
The thing with FF8 is: You need to get all the Guardian Forces. If you skip on 1 or 2, you will find yourself really crippled in later stages.
Overall the junction system is all about gathering the top spells and not using them. And again, you need all Guardian Forces for this. In the end you become almost unbeatable. Some people hate this, some people love it.
But to be honest, with the exception of FF9 and the pre-Playstation 1 titles, I find that magic spells are underpowered in the Final Fantasy series anyway.
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On October 09 2012 01:18 Psychobabas wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2012 22:06 Mataza wrote:
I played FF8 last year and the gamer in me is completely unable to not use the strongest junctions available to me.
The fighting part is easily the worst if you know how the system works. I enjoy difficulty. Having to cripple yourself to have any difficulty for the first 2 discs is not fun.
Story was fun till the infamous "time compression" and even believable until "you are all from the same orphanage"
Seifer was somehow evil just because he has a badass outfit.
A couple of things wrong, still a good game. Just not the best in the series.
Also if you ask me, FF10 was the last Final Fantasy. 10-2 was mind numbing concept, then came the MMORPG and then the single player MMORPG with grind quests and all. After that I don´t even know anything besides how Snow, Lightning and Hope look like. The thing with FF8 is: You need to get all the Guardian Forces. If you skip on 1 or 2, you will find yourself really crippled in later stages. Overall the junction system is all about gathering the top spells and not using them. And again, you need all Guardian Forces for this. In the end you become almost unbeatable. Some people hate this, some people love it. But to be honest, with the exception of FF9 and the pre-Playstation 1 titles, I find that magic spells are underpowered in the Final Fantasy series anyway.
Well, in my first run I missed a good amount of them (there were 16 right? I think I had about 9 when I completed the game) and still managed to beat Ultimecia finger in the nose. A few good spells, Arnica and the Lionheart did the trick. It might not be the most balanced combat system, but if find it to be quite rewarding anyway.
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No you fools! Back to FF7!!
I just reached the Shinra Mansion.. so I'm about to get Vincent :D But I won't use him.. I'm just waiting until I get Cid so my party will be complete. (Cloud, Yuffie, Cid)
I tried leveling last night.. but the enemies aren't too good here. I should have stayed in the Cave of the Gi for a lot longer.. but oh well. I had forgotten how hard it is to manage your materia during the early stages when you have a small amount of materia slots available. I can't quite get it down to something I like yet
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Since tactics wasn't an option: FFVIII
VII is awesome, but VIII has the best progression system out of all of them. Can you do a 0 exp run in VII? Nope. But you can in VIII!! That shows true complexity of game design.
Tactics is the best FF ever made, but that is a different story I suppose. Most complex gameplay, most depth of gameplay, best characters, Robo (aka Worker 8), and BEOWOLF?!?! So badass (even if beowolf is horrible xD)
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