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On July 01 2011 01:52 kentarre wrote:
I know one of the main points against FF13 (and for some, FF10) was the voice acting. One emo voice or annoying character or overdramaticized wording from characters tends to push people overboard. But, imagine for just a second, what if your favorite classic FF game (1-9) had voice acting in it?
FF4? I'd probably want to murder Palom and Porom, but I'd get a huge laugh out of when Tellah called Edward a spoony bard. Yang's voice would probably be a little annoying whenever he did his battle cries unless they voiced it over with a Bruce Lee impersonator.
The FFIV DS voice acting was actually well done in my opinion
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So I am blazing through FFXIII (just got to Pulse), and I gotta say that this ranks up there for me as one of my favorites now. What can I say? At least my own words taste pretty good.
To Hope: I'm sorry I called you a whiny little crybaby. You really toughened up. Please keep buffing Lightning.
To Fang: You're basically an in-house homage to Kain Highwind, but anyone who can tame Bahamut is cool in my book.
To Sazh: You're not a racist caricature. The chicken living in your afro just threw me. Sorry!
To the story: I understand now. The linearity is a comment on the characters themselves; how they're racing toward a fixed fate. You broke up the party so many times because they needed answers. It's cool. I like you.
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On June 25 2011 08:26 Alventenie wrote:
Do you have the ATB bar on active? If you have the battle speed to wait, while you are choosing abilities no ones ATB goes up. If it is active you shouldn't have a problem with running into issues of it being slow. It also becomes less of an issue as you get more party members as you will have to input more stuff.
ya it was active, and its one of those where you get 10+ party members? instead of the average 3? i never enjoyed that greatly tbh.
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On July 01 2011 01:52 kentarre wrote:
I know one of the main points against FF13 (and for some, FF10) was the voice acting. One emo voice or annoying character or overdramaticized wording from characters tends to push people overboard. But, imagine for just a second, what if your favorite classic FF game (1-9) had voice acting in it?
I kind of have to agree with this a bit. I know for me personally I thought Tidus' voice acting was atrocious, but I just tried my best to ignore it and ended up liking FFX quite a bit regardless. I do think it would have been a better game without the voice acting in most cases, though.
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On July 01 2011 18:09 jeeeeohn wrote:
So I am blazing through FFXIII (just got to Pulse), and I gotta say that this ranks up there for me as one of my favorites now. What can I say? At least my own words taste pretty good.
To Hope: I'm sorry I called you a whiny little crybaby. You really toughened up. Please keep buffing Lightning.
To Fang: You're basically an in-house homage to Kain Highwind, but anyone who can tame Bahamut is cool in my book.
To Sazh: You're not a racist caricature. The chicken living in your afro just threw me. Sorry!
To the story: I understand now. The linearity is a comment on the characters themselves; how they're racing toward a fixed fate. You broke up the party so many times because they needed answers. It's cool. I like you.
:D
Most people who complain about the game only really have one legitimate complaint: not enough side-quests/open world exploring, and for the first half of the game you don't even get to make decisions really.
That's a fair complaint, but that's because it deviates significantly from the other final fantasy games in this manner. If you view it as its own game, it's not actually bad at all.
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On June 29 2011 17:03 Whitewing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 16:45 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I'm at the end of the game in FF9 now and I have to say, the game was a lot better then I expected. However, the difficulty is not up to par compared to other FF games. FF9 is so damn easy, I've never been stuck on any boss yet which is odd for a FF game and am a little disappointed. If you haven't been grinding, you'll find that the last few bosses can be quite a wake up call, unless you're using a strategy guide and already know exactly what to do =p. That said, no final fantasy game has ever been truly challenging. Most of us don't play them for the challenge, we play them for the story, and for the characters. I've never had the need to grind lol. Honestly, I actually don't know if I've ever died in FF9 and I can confidently say that's the only FF you will hear me say that to. The first couple FF's were pretty hard IMO and I've been stuck some times in FF7/10/12/13.
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On July 06 2011 12:00 Kamais_Ookin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2011 17:03 Whitewing wrote:On June 29 2011 16:45 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I'm at the end of the game in FF9 now and I have to say, the game was a lot better then I expected. However, the difficulty is not up to par compared to other FF games. FF9 is so damn easy, I've never been stuck on any boss yet which is odd for a FF game and am a little disappointed. If you haven't been grinding, you'll find that the last few bosses can be quite a wake up call, unless you're using a strategy guide and already know exactly what to do =p. That said, no final fantasy game has ever been truly challenging. Most of us don't play them for the challenge, we play them for the story, and for the characters. I've never had the need to grind lol. Honestly, I actually don't know if I've ever died in FF9 and I can confidently say that's the only FF you will hear me say that to. The first couple FF's were pretty hard IMO and I've been stuck some times in FF7/10/12/13.
I have died so many times in ff6 since the game punishes leveling up, and I want to maximize my esper gains
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On July 06 2011 12:19 101toss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 12:00 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On June 29 2011 17:03 Whitewing wrote:On June 29 2011 16:45 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I'm at the end of the game in FF9 now and I have to say, the game was a lot better then I expected. However, the difficulty is not up to par compared to other FF games. FF9 is so damn easy, I've never been stuck on any boss yet which is odd for a FF game and am a little disappointed. If you haven't been grinding, you'll find that the last few bosses can be quite a wake up call, unless you're using a strategy guide and already know exactly what to do =p. That said, no final fantasy game has ever been truly challenging. Most of us don't play them for the challenge, we play them for the story, and for the characters. I've never had the need to grind lol. Honestly, I actually don't know if I've ever died in FF9 and I can confidently say that's the only FF you will hear me say that to. The first couple FF's were pretty hard IMO and I've been stuck some times in FF7/10/12/13. I have died so many times in ff6 since the game punishes leveling up, and I want to maximize my esper gains
The game does not punish leveling up, you just want to maximize esper bonuses, which is unneeded to beat the game =P. You can go the entire game without any grinding and still deal with the final boss (and all areas up to him) very easily. However adding the esper bonuses help out a lot, but are not really required as i've gone through the game on a speed run (where i basically try to rush to get Odin and then grind people up with the speed bonus so they get turns all the time).
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On July 06 2011 12:22 Alventenie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 12:19 101toss wrote:On July 06 2011 12:00 Kamais_Ookin wrote:On June 29 2011 17:03 Whitewing wrote:On June 29 2011 16:45 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I'm at the end of the game in FF9 now and I have to say, the game was a lot better then I expected. However, the difficulty is not up to par compared to other FF games. FF9 is so damn easy, I've never been stuck on any boss yet which is odd for a FF game and am a little disappointed. If you haven't been grinding, you'll find that the last few bosses can be quite a wake up call, unless you're using a strategy guide and already know exactly what to do =p. That said, no final fantasy game has ever been truly challenging. Most of us don't play them for the challenge, we play them for the story, and for the characters. I've never had the need to grind lol. Honestly, I actually don't know if I've ever died in FF9 and I can confidently say that's the only FF you will hear me say that to. The first couple FF's were pretty hard IMO and I've been stuck some times in FF7/10/12/13. I have died so many times in ff6 since the game punishes leveling up, and I want to maximize my esper gains The game does not punish leveling up, you just want to maximize esper bonuses, which is unneeded to beat the game =P. You can go the entire game without any grinding and still deal with the final boss (and all areas up to him) very easily. However adding the esper bonuses help out a lot, but are not really required as i've gone through the game on a speed run (where i basically try to rush to get Odin and then grind people up with the speed bonus so they get turns all the time).
As an FF completionist/perfectionist, the inability to get truly optimum stats counts as punishment for me. Sure, esper bonuses aren't necessary to beat the game, but for me, I like to maximize it. It's kind of like how you don't need the adamant armor to beat ff4, yet I have spent countless days (over many years) on the snes only to acquire ONE adamant armor
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On July 06 2011 11:46 Whitewing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 18:09 jeeeeohn wrote:
So I am blazing through FFXIII (just got to Pulse), and I gotta say that this ranks up there for me as one of my favorites now. What can I say? At least my own words taste pretty good.
To Hope: I'm sorry I called you a whiny little crybaby. You really toughened up. Please keep buffing Lightning.
To Fang: You're basically an in-house homage to Kain Highwind, but anyone who can tame Bahamut is cool in my book.
To Sazh: You're not a racist caricature. The chicken living in your afro just threw me. Sorry!
To the story: I understand now. The linearity is a comment on the characters themselves; how they're racing toward a fixed fate. You broke up the party so many times because they needed answers. It's cool. I like you. :D Most people who complain about the game only really have one legitimate complaint: not enough side-quests/open world exploring, and for the first half of the game you don't even get to make decisions really. That's a fair complaint, but that's because it deviates significantly from the other final fantasy games in this manner. If you view it as its own game, it's not actually bad at all.
I actually don't mind the side-quest/open world/linear stuff. The game wants to tell me a story, and if it's a good story, I'll let it. I don't care how linear it is. There's plenty of side-stuff and exploring...just not 'til you beat the final boss; but I think that's not a bad change. In plenty of the previous games, you'd have exploration and side-quests before the final boss, which ended and locked your file. this made for kinda anti-climatic final boss fights because most of the time your party is so damn overpowered due to completing all the side missions prior to tackling the boss.
My only real complaint is that the characters and the story just didn't draw me in as much as the prior ones did. The characters all seemed kind of bland and flat, even when they attempted to give them some twists and such. The plot was okay, but it lacked the classic tragic love story (which may or may not end happily at the end) between the playable protagonist. Sure, there was the whole Snow+Lightning's sister thing (and I had a sneaking suspicion fang and vanille were lesbian lovers...but w/e), but with Lightning's sister being such a smallish role (i dont even remember her name lololol), it felt empty.
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How did you not list the best FF game of them all...Tactics? One of the more interesting combat systems, class selection, AND music. Nobuo Uematsu is amazing, but the composers of FFT outdid him a little.
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Final Fantasy X is by far the best imo. It might even be my favourite game of all time, but I could never make that decision.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxJE6SSX-aw
I still listen to this almost every day while I work
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On July 06 2011 13:09 prOxi.swAMi wrote:Final Fantasy X is by far the best imo. It might even be my favourite game of all time, but I could never make that decision. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxJE6SSX-aw
I still listen to this almost every day while I work
If only FF10 wasn't plagued by insanely annoying characters like tidus and fucking wakka, the music and gameplay are so good but the writers just shit all over this game. Not to mention the worst game of all time...blitzball...oh god the horror.
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On July 06 2011 13:23 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 13:09 prOxi.swAMi wrote:Final Fantasy X is by far the best imo. It might even be my favourite game of all time, but I could never make that decision. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxJE6SSX-aw
I still listen to this almost every day while I work If only FF10 wasn't plagued by insanely annoying characters like tidus and fucking wakka, the music and gameplay are so good but the writers just shit all over this game. Not to mention the worst game of all time...blitzball...oh god the horror.
Actually tidus was my favourite character... and wakka was funny. Why don't you like blitzball? And why are tidus and wakka annoying? These things are important to mention
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final fantasy X has good story, good music, good graphics, but lousy gameplay :/ everyone is the same if you max out the whole sphere grid! except that yuna could summon...
i like final fantasy 9 the most because every character is unique itself :/ but battles are quite slow paced for me ):
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On July 06 2011 13:36 prOxi.swAMi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 13:23 Olinim wrote:On July 06 2011 13:09 prOxi.swAMi wrote:Final Fantasy X is by far the best imo. It might even be my favourite game of all time, but I could never make that decision. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxJE6SSX-aw
I still listen to this almost every day while I work If only FF10 wasn't plagued by insanely annoying characters like tidus and fucking wakka, the music and gameplay are so good but the writers just shit all over this game. Not to mention the worst game of all time...blitzball...oh god the horror. Actually tidus was my favourite character... and wakka was funny. Why don't you like blitzball? And why are tidus and wakka annoying? These things are important to mention
You like blitzball? But...and...why... ok well we are just gonna have to agree to disagree here.
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ff9 was my first play station game. a friend of mine had it and i loved playing it at his house, eventually bought a ps2 and ff9 myself :D. 7 and 10 were kinda meh to me but i was too young when i played to really understand what was happening
edit: thought kuja was a girl for like 5 years
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On July 06 2011 12:53 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 11:46 Whitewing wrote:On July 01 2011 18:09 jeeeeohn wrote:
So I am blazing through FFXIII (just got to Pulse), and I gotta say that this ranks up there for me as one of my favorites now. What can I say? At least my own words taste pretty good.
To Hope: I'm sorry I called you a whiny little crybaby. You really toughened up. Please keep buffing Lightning.
To Fang: You're basically an in-house homage to Kain Highwind, but anyone who can tame Bahamut is cool in my book.
To Sazh: You're not a racist caricature. The chicken living in your afro just threw me. Sorry!
To the story: I understand now. The linearity is a comment on the characters themselves; how they're racing toward a fixed fate. You broke up the party so many times because they needed answers. It's cool. I like you. :D Most people who complain about the game only really have one legitimate complaint: not enough side-quests/open world exploring, and for the first half of the game you don't even get to make decisions really. That's a fair complaint, but that's because it deviates significantly from the other final fantasy games in this manner. If you view it as its own game, it's not actually bad at all. I actually don't mind the side-quest/open world/linear stuff. The game wants to tell me a story, and if it's a good story, I'll let it. I don't care how linear it is. There's plenty of side-stuff and exploring...just not 'til you beat the final boss; but I think that's not a bad change. In plenty of the previous games, you'd have exploration and side-quests before the final boss, which ended and locked your file. this made for kinda anti-climatic final boss fights because most of the time your party is so damn overpowered due to completing all the side missions prior to tackling the boss. My only real complaint is that the characters and the story just didn't draw me in as much as the prior ones did. The characters all seemed kind of bland and flat, even when they attempted to give them some twists and such. The plot was okay, but it lacked the classic tragic love story (which may or may not end happily at the end) between the playable protagonist. Sure, there was the whole Snow+Lightning's sister thing (and I had a sneaking suspicion fang and vanille were lesbian lovers...but w/e), but with Lightning's sister being such a smallish role (i dont even remember her name lololol), it felt empty.
Late to the discussion, but recently completed FF13 and completely agree with the above. Lack of towns, more of a dungeon-crawler, lack of side-quests, exploration, etc. are all minor things that don't really make or break a game. They can make a good game, great, but not a good game bad.
But the story and characters really disappointed me. I've never found FF stories to be "epic" ala Xenogears/Xenosaga type, but they've always been quite good in a generic kind of way. And it doesn't take an epic plotline to work. Valkyria Chronicles had a very entertaining story and lovable characters, but hardly amazing.
Overall I've always enjoyed FF stories... until FF13. And that is the major disappointment.
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On July 06 2011 13:23 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 13:09 prOxi.swAMi wrote:Final Fantasy X is by far the best imo. It might even be my favourite game of all time, but I could never make that decision. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxJE6SSX-aw
I still listen to this almost every day while I work If only FF10 wasn't plagued by insanely annoying characters like tidus and fucking wakka, the music and gameplay are so good but the writers just shit all over this game. Not to mention the worst game of all time...blitzball...oh god the horror.
Every game has multiple characters to cater to different audience. It's impossible not to hate at least some characters in every RPG. And at least Tidus isn't a true main character. He's more of a narrator than anything else. Yuna, who I feel to be the main character, is among the top RPG female leads in my mind.
And besides, since you don't like Wakka or Blitzball, you pretty much minimized damage to your own sanity for not having to do his ultimate weapon quest. 
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On July 06 2011 13:58 baubo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 13:23 Olinim wrote:On July 06 2011 13:09 prOxi.swAMi wrote:Final Fantasy X is by far the best imo. It might even be my favourite game of all time, but I could never make that decision. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxJE6SSX-aw
I still listen to this almost every day while I work If only FF10 wasn't plagued by insanely annoying characters like tidus and fucking wakka, the music and gameplay are so good but the writers just shit all over this game. Not to mention the worst game of all time...blitzball...oh god the horror. Every game has multiple characters to cater to different audience. It's impossible not to hate at least some characters in every RPG. And at least Tidus isn't a true main character. He's more of a narrator than anything else. Yuna, who I feel to be the main character, is among the top RPG female leads in my mind. And besides, since you don't like Wakka or Blitzball, you pretty much minimized damage to your own sanity for not having to do his ultimate weapon quest.
How? Yuna is a giant doormat. For example, while tidus and kimarhi are fucking around with the other ronsos, they let her get kidnapped, and after she gets rescued she subsequently apologizes for getting kidnapped while her guardians were out playing fucking blitzball. Also her plans make no sense, she married seymour so she could talk to seymour and confront him about his father? How does this make any sense? Why is yuna so stupid? Her character is so bland, shes just a typical nice girl doormat.
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