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On June 29 2011 09:53 trainRiderJ wrote:
I'm currently running a ladder fire sorc on useast after a long time away from the game.
Do we have a system of naming games for teamliquid users? If we don't, I propose the following.
tlnormal // tl
tlnightmare // tl
tlhell // tl
Whenever I'm on I'll be in a game of this name depending on the difficulty I'm in. If we ever need new rooms just add a 1, 2, 3, etc at the end. I hope other people do the same!
Sounds like fun, i may join you on there, i need to re install it on my computer though.
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Oh by the way my bnet account name is trainRiderJ as well.
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Had a couple people drop in which is nice to see. I'm off for now but anyone else playing should make games with the same system, hopefully we can get some teamliquid teamwork going.
tlnormal // tl
tlnightmare // tl
tlhell // tl
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So i'm thinking of making a bowassassin for PvM purposes, what would be the best bow?
So far I'm torn between:
Harmony (superior blade bow), Buriza, Witchwild string, Goldstrike arch, and Hellrack
I figure Hellrack or Harmony would clean physical immunes, but WWS could break the immunity to begin with.. Buriza obviously has the 100% pierce for crowd control and solid dmg making it a good choice.
I wish I could just find Windforce :/
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On June 30 2011 02:40 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
So i'm thinking of making a bowassassin for PvM purposes, what would be the best bow?
So far I'm torn between:
Harmony (superior blade bow), Buriza, Witchwild string, Goldstrike arch, and Hellrack
I figure Hellrack or Harmony would clean physical immunes, but WWS could break the immunity to begin with.. Buriza obviously has the 100% pierce for crowd control and solid dmg making it a good choice.
I wish I could just find Windforce :/
With BoS, you should be able to hit ias bps for most if not all bows fairly easily. With Cloak and MB, you already have cc. So this means you are lacking ways to deal with PIs, and have room to sacrifice other things to get more damage.
To deal with PIs, I suggest keeping WWS on switch and maxing Venom and Death Sentry. WWS has the double whammy of both amp and magic damage in case of unbreakable PIs. This gives your main bow the freedom to just maximize physical damage.
Harmony is very good at lower levels for the vigor/valk and carries some good damage too, but at high levels BoS can replace vigor and shadow master can replace valk. So now we just compare physical damage. Buriza has the best physical damage is the only one with piercing. Thus Buriza wins hands down (as it should  ).
Socket WWS with nef+Psapphire to give you time to cast amp, but I think you might not need it. Socket Buriza with shael or um or something. Grab a might merc for damage.
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So me and a friend have just restarted diablo 2, and we're basically gonna want one character for boosting purposes, and aside from hammerdin (too damn boring imoimo) what works?
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On June 30 2011 04:37 EquilasH wrote:
So me and a friend have just restarted diablo 2, and we're basically gonna want one character for boosting purposes, and aside from hammerdin (too damn boring imoimo) what works?
Light sorc is your best bet, but you need pretty decent equipment to make it a killing machine.
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What i ask myself.. u talk about "NO LOD shit" but u put LOD classes in the poll.. sense?
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On June 30 2011 04:43 city42 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 04:37 EquilasH wrote:
So me and a friend have just restarted diablo 2, and we're basically gonna want one character for boosting purposes, and aside from hammerdin (too damn boring imoimo) what works? Light sorc is your best bet, but you need pretty decent equipment to make it a killing machine.
Equipment is a non-issue, but what about monsters that are immune to lightning in hell etc.?
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On June 30 2011 05:00 EquilasH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 04:43 city42 wrote:On June 30 2011 04:37 EquilasH wrote:
So me and a friend have just restarted diablo 2, and we're basically gonna want one character for boosting purposes, and aside from hammerdin (too damn boring imoimo) what works? Light sorc is your best bet, but you need pretty decent equipment to make it a killing machine. Equipment is a non-issue, but what about monsters that are immune to lightning in hell etc.?
You throw an infinity on your A2 merc. Another less cookie-cutter idea is to make infinity out of a regular scythe and wear it yourself, which gives you the -LR bonus (if your merc wears it, you only get conviction). Then gun everything down with maxed + synergized CB. Either way a light sorc is an incredibly efficient rusher.
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You can put infinity in a staff as well if I'm not mistaken. Alternately you can just teleport past lightning immunes, although hell ancients could become annoying even though you can reset them infinitely. I used to rush with an Infinity on swap and my merc carried Insight for the mana regen aura. You only need the infinity when you're killing immunes so it's better to have it on swap when you need it. You can also micro your merc and switch his weapons out but that takes a bit more effort.
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On June 30 2011 04:32 Gliche wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 02:40 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
So i'm thinking of making a bowassassin for PvM purposes, what would be the best bow?
So far I'm torn between:
Harmony (superior blade bow), Buriza, Witchwild string, Goldstrike arch, and Hellrack
I figure Hellrack or Harmony would clean physical immunes, but WWS could break the immunity to begin with.. Buriza obviously has the 100% pierce for crowd control and solid dmg making it a good choice.
I wish I could just find Windforce :/ With BoS, you should be able to hit ias bps for most if not all bows fairly easily. With Cloak and MB, you already have cc. So this means you are lacking ways to deal with PIs, and have room to sacrifice other things to get more damage. To deal with PIs, I suggest keeping WWS on switch and maxing Venom and Death Sentry. WWS has the double whammy of both amp and magic damage in case of unbreakable PIs. This gives your main bow the freedom to just maximize physical damage. Harmony is very good at lower levels for the vigor/valk and carries some good damage too, but at high levels BoS can replace vigor and shadow master can replace valk. So now we just compare physical damage. Buriza has the best physical damage is the only one with piercing. Thus Buriza wins hands down (as it should ). Socket WWS with nef+Psapphire to give you time to cast amp, but I think you might not need it. Socket Buriza with shael or um or something. Grab a might merc for damage.
Thanks for the response!
I forgot to mention, I'm doing this run solo. Meaning no valk/shadowmaster/merc. Also, I'm only using shadow tree but with no venom. So yea, I'm not too worried about speed, especially with my limitations, I'll end up maxing BoS anyway. But isn't Buriza capped at 11fps as opposed to bows which can get to 9fps? I figure since I have no way of tanking, I need to apply knockback/slow/cold/Flee as fast as possible.. But you're right, the Buriza pierce makes it almost a necessity, either as my primary or secondary bow. Is there a way for a bowsin to get reliable pierce through non-weapon gear?
Oh, I'm also going to try to not put any points into vita if possible but I may change my mind once I get to Hell. But that basically frees up stat points so I'm not too worried about str req. Is Buriza worth upgrading? I always hear mixed things about it (str req too high mostly)
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Yeah you can get it from razortail belt.
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On June 30 2011 06:53 Xenocide_Knight wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2011 04:32 Gliche wrote:On June 30 2011 02:40 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
So i'm thinking of making a bowassassin for PvM purposes, what would be the best bow?
So far I'm torn between:
Harmony (superior blade bow), Buriza, Witchwild string, Goldstrike arch, and Hellrack
I figure Hellrack or Harmony would clean physical immunes, but WWS could break the immunity to begin with.. Buriza obviously has the 100% pierce for crowd control and solid dmg making it a good choice.
I wish I could just find Windforce :/ With BoS, you should be able to hit ias bps for most if not all bows fairly easily. With Cloak and MB, you already have cc. So this means you are lacking ways to deal with PIs, and have room to sacrifice other things to get more damage. To deal with PIs, I suggest keeping WWS on switch and maxing Venom and Death Sentry. WWS has the double whammy of both amp and magic damage in case of unbreakable PIs. This gives your main bow the freedom to just maximize physical damage. Harmony is very good at lower levels for the vigor/valk and carries some good damage too, but at high levels BoS can replace vigor and shadow master can replace valk. So now we just compare physical damage. Buriza has the best physical damage is the only one with piercing. Thus Buriza wins hands down (as it should ). Socket WWS with nef+Psapphire to give you time to cast amp, but I think you might not need it. Socket Buriza with shael or um or something. Grab a might merc for damage. Thanks for the response! I forgot to mention, I'm doing this run solo. Meaning no valk/shadowmaster/merc. Also, I'm only using shadow tree but with no venom. So yea, I'm not too worried about speed, especially with my limitations, I'll end up maxing BoS anyway. But isn't Buriza capped at 11fps as opposed to bows which can get to 9fps? I figure since I have no way of tanking, I need to apply knockback/slow/cold/Flee as fast as possible.. But you're right, the Buriza pierce makes it almost a necessity, either as my primary or secondary bow. Is there a way for a bowsin to get reliable pierce through non-weapon gear? Oh, I'm also going to try to not put any points into vita if possible but I may change my mind once I get to Hell. But that basically frees up stat points so I'm not too worried about str req. Is Buriza worth upgrading? I always hear mixed things about it (str req too high mostly)
Wow, those are some tight restrictions you have there. Well, let's see. All crossbows are capped at 11fpa, while bows are 9fpa. Of the 4 mods Kb/slow/cold/flee, slow is number 1 priority. It's the only one works on every monster in the game. Flee is last because it gets significantly worse as bosspacks and champions become more frequent. I wonder if slow is all you need because Cloak/Mb might be good enough to take care of everything else.
If you're going to try using a bow, use a Riphook/Ceglaw's gloves combo at lower levels and see how that feels. Of course always keep String on switch because String is awesome.
Someone already mentioned Razortail. It's the only viable item I can think of with piercing.
Buriza is worth upgrading. The 40 or so stats you lose into str to equip it is counterbalanced by the much better base damage. Since you are doing no vita, just put everything into dex and that will multiply damage over all that extra base damage.
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Ok, so I've beaten Nightmare, and that's all I said I'd do. I'm not sure if I should finish hell. It feels kinda repetitive and monsters take a while to kill. Blessed hammer doesn't really work, neither does vengeance. It'd take three more full days for me to get through and I'm not sure if I should even though I want to.
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On July 01 2011 10:49 obesechicken13 wrote:
Ok, so I've beaten Nightmare, and that's all I said I'd do. I'm not sure if I should finish hell. It feels kinda repetitive and monsters take a while to kill. Blessed hammer doesn't really work, neither does vengeance. It'd take three more full days for me to get through and I'm not sure if I should even though I want to.
Hell mode is where real DIablo II starts..
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On July 01 2011 11:07 Xenocide_Knight wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 10:49 obesechicken13 wrote:
Ok, so I've beaten Nightmare, and that's all I said I'd do. I'm not sure if I should finish hell. It feels kinda repetitive and monsters take a while to kill. Blessed hammer doesn't really work, neither does vengeance. It'd take three more full days for me to get through and I'm not sure if I should even though I want to. Hell mode is where real DIablo II starts..
Yeah. It seems I need a weapon with ignore target defence, a bunch of +poison resist items (-40 atm) for andy and radamant, or an item with amp though. Physical immunes are ruining my day. wands are too expensive. I can't imagine I don't have the money for a merc.
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On July 01 2011 13:13 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 11:07 Xenocide_Knight wrote:On July 01 2011 10:49 obesechicken13 wrote:
Ok, so I've beaten Nightmare, and that's all I said I'd do. I'm not sure if I should finish hell. It feels kinda repetitive and monsters take a while to kill. Blessed hammer doesn't really work, neither does vengeance. It'd take three more full days for me to get through and I'm not sure if I should even though I want to. Hell mode is where real DIablo II starts.. Yeah. It seems I need a weapon with ignore target defence, a bunch of +poison resist items (-40 atm) for andy and radamant, or an item with amp though. Physical immunes are ruining my day. wands are too expensive. I can't imagine I don't have the money for a merc.
yeah hell pretty much separates the good chars from the bad. i'm surprised vengeance isn't doing well though. what weapon are you using?
edit: better yet what gear/skills are you using?
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I used to play diablo on and off over the past many years (miss my old items and chars ;p). I'ma be playing again on east scl on acc name *lastprime. Add me~~
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On July 01 2011 10:49 obesechicken13 wrote:
Blessed hammer doesn't really work.
what?
thats like the uber gg skill of the game
if you are talking about being a melee pally and trying to use it, of course it wont work, it needs its synergies maxed and its aura [concentration]
use a baranars star with tiamats rebuke as your alt switch for phys immune if you are going zeal/fanat
lightsaber or azurewrath are also decent for phys immunes
vegence works best with conviction, not fanaticism, as fanat only boosts the phys dmg of it, not the elemental
im *amd123 if anyone needs help, i have a pally that can rush and kill things, along with an uber killing druid and a lazy amazon
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