EPTNBA Playoffs (2010-2011) - Page 223
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Dknight
United States5223 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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Riskr
Germany403 Posts
but tbh Kidd deserved this 10x more than anyone else.16 Years! Dirk,the JET,the Matrix 13,12 and 12! Tyson about 9 i think. Don´t shy away to say the BIG Three play in Dallas! | ||
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Nightsbane
Denmark1 Post
All i'd like to see now is Lebron developing into a complete player with a postup game, Extend Bosh's range to a corner three. Keep Chalmers/Miller/Haslem. And sign a free agent or two in the off season. Develop an actual offense Keep their heads down next season and get to the finals again. LETS GO HEAT | ||
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dazed
Canada191 Posts
On June 14 2011 04:45 Nightsbane wrote: As a long time Heat fan I can only say Grats Dallas! Well deserved win, out coached the Heat in the entire series, and out played them in the last 2½ games. All i'd like to see now is Lebron developing into a complete player with a postup game, Extend Bosh's range to a corner three. Keep Chalmers/Miller/Haslem. And sign a free agent or two in the off season. Develop an actual offense Keep their heads down next season and get to the finals again. LETS GO HEAT - Lebron having a postup game isn't going to change much. The problem with him is his mentality. He has the athleticism of a SG and the size of a PF. He should be relentlessly attacking the basket and not settling for 3s. - What a horrible way to use bosh. You seriously want him to be a spot up corner 3 shooter? Very little big man can deal with his quickness. He's at his best when facing up 12-15ft away from the basket. - get rid of everyone over 35. Get rid of these leechers who wants to sit on the bench and get a ring. Fucking big Z, Juwan Howard, Magloire, Bibby, Dampier. -Not a fan of Chalmers and Miller either. How many open 3s can you guys miss? You knew from the beginning that you would be used as spot up shooters. Theres no excuse to be shooting in the low-mid 30% | ||
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ilikejokes
United States217 Posts
On June 14 2011 04:13 Jibba wrote: Kill him for his Finals. Not for his season/playoffs. The Heat wouldn't have made it to the finals without Lebron. I may enjoy seeing him lose, but I find it difficult to ignore how well he played the rest of the playoffs, making the MVP look average. It saddens me that we have so many bandwagoners doing just that right now. Watch some fucking basketball during the season before you start talking shit. How am I killing him for his regular season? LeBron is a phenomenal regular season performer. That doesn't change the fact that, as impressive as his contributions were in the playoffs, Bosh and Wade were more important to the team on the whole. I'm saying that, if you go back to free agency, it makes more sense for Miami to sign Bosh and then round out their roster with rotation players (not 3 centers and 2 guards who wouldn't get play time on any other team; I'm looking at you, Z, Howard, Dampier, Arroyo, and House). I'm going to kill LeBron for his Finals, particularly for his failure to make any adjustments; I'm going to kill him for Game 1 of the Chicago series, when he was outplayed handily but Luol Deng, and I'm going to kill him for the awful "hero" shots he took at the end of games for the rest of the series (so they went in; that doesn't make them good shots). I'm going to kill him for his failure to take a regular season game off a quality team that wasn't completely jaded (LA at Christmas and Boston late in the season). I'm going to kill him for being more concerned with his brand than his basketball. Yes if you just took LeBron off this Heat team, the Heat don't make the Finals. Hell, even if you do what I did---you rewind to the beginning of the season, replace James's contract with a solid rotation---the Heat probably don't make the Finals. But they would be a stronger team going into next season and for the foreseeable future, which is why I'm saying it would have made sense to only sign Bosh and a rotation, rather than this Big 3 silliness. As far as making Rose look average, while James did a good job it was also obvious that Rose was just tired. Tiredness can go a long way towards making even great players look fairly average. Edit: as far as bandwagoning the LeBron hate-train goes, I'm pretty sure I've been consistently hate-training LeBron throughout the playoffs and regular season. So there's that, too. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
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ilikejokes
United States217 Posts
On June 14 2011 05:06 dazed wrote: - Lebron having a postup game isn't going to change much. The problem with him is his mentality. He has the athleticism of a SG and the size of a PF. He should be relentlessly attacking the basket and not settling for 3s. - What a horrible way to use bosh. You seriously want him to be a spot up corner 3 shooter? Very little big man can deal with his quickness. He's at his best when facing up 12-15ft away from the basket. - get rid of everyone over 35. Get rid of these leechers who wants to sit on the bench and get a ring. Fucking big Z, Juwan Howard, Magloire, Bibby, Dampier. -Not a fan of Chalmers and Miller either. How many open 3s can you guys miss? You knew from the beginning that you would be used as spot up shooters. Theres no excuse to be shooting in the low-mid 30% Chalmers shot 38% from 3-pt range in the playoffs (not great, but enough to be an asset when you consider his other contributions) and Miller is recovering from a broken hand, which can really mess you up as a shooter. Those are both pretty good "excuses." LeBron needs both a post-up game and an attitude adjustment, and the former is only going to come if the latter comes first. If he had just one or two go-to moves in the most, he would be so much more dangerous on offense. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 14 2011 05:17 Ack1027 wrote: OR MAYBE ROSE WAS OVERRATED DUN DUN DUNNN Overrated as an MVP, but not as a scorer. Lebron's defense was phenomenal against him. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
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ilikejokes
United States217 Posts
On June 14 2011 05:17 Ack1027 wrote: OR MAYBE ROSE WAS OVERRATED DUN DUN DUNNN Or maybe he emerged as hands-down the most explosive point guard in the league, carried a team missing its next two most important players for significant stretches of the season, scored or assisted on close to 50% of the Bulls' points during the season, won the MVP award, and led a team with little-to-no postseason experience to within a few missed shots and free throws of the NBA finals. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
HE NAILED BOSTON AND CHICAGO INTO THE GRAVE. Over-reliance on nailing threes from historically poor 3-point shooters (Wade, James, at least in comparison to a pure three-shooter like Ray Allen or a God like MJ) will come back to bite you in the ass eventually, and it did to the Heat in the Finals. Wade and James were playing above their ability in that aspect during the Celtics and Bulls series'. | ||
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ilikejokes
United States217 Posts
On June 14 2011 05:21 Holcan wrote: 38% is fucking Aces from Chalmers, anything over 33% from a defensive specialist would be good, imo. Yeah shit, Artest shot 29% on 3's last year and the Lakers won the title. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32056 Posts
On June 14 2011 05:22 ilikejokes wrote: Or maybe he emerged as hands-down the most explosive point guard in the league, carried a team missing it's next two most important players for significant stretches of the season, scored or assisted on close to 50% of the Bulls' points during the season, won the MVP award, and led a team with little-to-no postseason experience to within a few missed shots and free throws of the NBA finals. Yeah i'm a very passive basketball fan... but Rose is far from overrated. Also, James did a number on him in the playoffs, like ~the jibster~ said but I mostly came here to post this http://deadspin.com/5811450/ohios-legislative-dick-move-mavs-honored-for-taking-down-lebron | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
I may enjoy seeing him lose, but I find it difficult to ignore how well he played the rest of the playoffs, making the MVP look average With absolutely no help, sure Rose looked average. LeBron took the role of the Bulls team and managed to make Dwyane Wade take the role of Rose during the Finals - something I thought I'd never see, D-Wade trying as hard as he could and not being able to make a difference. He has the King to thank for that. Wade was flying around the floor the fourth quarter of game 6 - and the only one who looked like he cared enough to try to help was Chalmers. LeBron? He had more important shit to do I guess. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
On June 14 2011 05:22 ilikejokes wrote: Or maybe he emerged as hands-down the most explosive point guard in the league, carried a team missing its next two most important players for significant stretches of the season, scored or assisted on close to 50% of the Bulls' points during the season, won the MVP award, and led a team with little-to-no postseason experience to within a few missed shots and free throws of the NBA finals. You are a constant flow of delusional entertainment. First its drose in 5 And now its that derrick rose was tired...like somehow if he wasn't tired he would have been able to overcome the monumental d that lebron played on him. I don't even like lebron...I'm in the sign bosh + better players camp... but holy shit derrick rose has probably never played against man-on-man d like that in his entire life. Stay real bro. | ||
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ilikejokes
United States217 Posts
On June 14 2011 05:35 Ack1027 wrote: You are a constant flow of delusional entertainment. First its drose in 5 And now its that derrick rose was tired...like somehow if he wasn't tired he would have been able to overcome the monumental d that lebron played on him. I don't even like lebron...I'm in the sign bosh + better players camp... but holy shit derrick rose has probably never played against man-on-man d like that in his entire life. Stay real bro. ?? I don't disagree that LeBron played monstrous defense on Rose, I'm just saying that tiredness was also a factor, as it is for pretty much any player making a run that deep in the playoffs for the first time. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On June 14 2011 03:11 DannyJ wrote: The whole mini rant he gave about his critics is certainly overblown. People seems to be taking it as he was just saying hes rich and his critics arent, which i don't think was his intention at all. I'm pretty sure he was telling people to "get a life" which is definitely a good response to the massive amount of weirdos who have some deep psychotic hatred for him and the heat. The problem is the way he said it was in a typical LeBron fashion which just didnt come out well at all... He really needs to learn how to talk to the press and just keep shit simple. I'm sorry but I completely disagree. Everytime I hear it again (b/c the espn shows are taking him to town on it) it becomes more and more apparent what he was saying. His intention is clear and you can even see the point mid-speech when he realizes he is saying something bad and tries to temper it. This is the guy who thinks he is "the king" and his top goal is to be a billionaire. Everything we know about him reinforces the idea that it is in his character to say something as pathetic as he did last night. You don't have to agree but myself, and many others, see it for what it was. It just makes him look more sad in the context of "I didn't do anything wrong, and i'm rich so whatever we'll be back." | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On June 14 2011 05:25 Hawk wrote: Yeah i'm a very passive basketball fan... but Rose is far from overrated. Also, James did a number on him in the playoffs, like ~the jibster~ said but I mostly came here to post this http://deadspin.com/5811450/ohios-legislative-dick-move-mavs-honored-for-taking-down-lebron The link you posted on that other thread was better. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32056 Posts
On June 14 2011 05:45 andrewlt wrote: The link you posted on that other thread was better. Definitely, but the sheer fact that a STATE LEGISLATURE would do that is so mind bogglingly ridiculous that it needs to be posted. | ||
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