EPTMike Brown, Lakers coach.
Discuss.
Extra issue: one of the espn stat analysts, Haberstroh who's quietly (relative to Hollinger) contributed some of the most pieces to espn, thinks the Bulls should trade Boozer.
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
Mike Brown, Lakers coach. Discuss. Extra issue: one of the espn stat analysts, Haberstroh who's quietly (relative to Hollinger) contributed some of the most pieces to espn, thinks the Bulls should trade Boozer. | ||
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shmay
United States1091 Posts
Let's look at the starting lineups. Kidd -> Bibby Stevenson -> Wade Marion -> Lebron Dirk -> Bosh Chandler -> Anthony Bench Peja -> Miller JET -> Jones? Barea -> Chalmers Will we see Ilgauskas and Jones this series? I would actually like to see an Eddie House appearance. I think Spoelstra will more or less go all out and keep the big 3 in as much as possible. The Heat match up quite well against DAL, which I don't think was true for the Bulls. Bosh is perhaps Dirk's toughest matchup, as he is almost as long and is more athletic than Dirk. Haslem is also a tough defender and could push Dirk around a bit. The Heat's weakness is theoretically fast guards and imposing centers, which DAL doesn't really have. Can Stevenson handle Wade? Can Marion disrupt Lebron? How do you all think this will play out? | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
gotta get some worth out of bibby's salary, gotta bring the ball past half court line pretty tough job | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On May 30 2011 17:07 OneOther wrote: Hmm could the Heat possibly start James/Wade/Bosh/Haslem/Miller? They rode this lineup to victories in Games 4 and 5 versus the Bulls especially in crunch time. I'd run it. It depends a lot on Udonis's conditioning, since he'll be guarding Dirk or Chandler in this scenario and both guys can be nightmares, though for very different reasons. I wonder, if Dallas saw the Heat going with this line up, if they'd just throw in Barea, Kidd and Jet and just go super duper small, with Dirk at 5 and Marion at 4. It'll be fun to see, both teams have pretty solid options, but nothing perfect - that's what makes it intriguing. | ||
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iDoMiNaTe2.0
288 Posts
On May 30 2011 11:50 igotmyown wrote: Cavs trying to hoard the top 2 picks in a kind of weak draft Mike Brown, Lakers coach. Discuss. Extra issue: one of the espn stat analysts, Haberstroh who's quietly (relative to Hollinger) contributed some of the most pieces to espn, thinks the Bulls should trade Boozer. I don't think it's that weak of a draft wasn't the Blake Griffin draft suppose to be weak? people even doubted if BG could be a all star Harden, Evans, Jennings good players came out of that draft. Irving reminds me of CP3 Derrick Williams I personally like a lot. Also unless i mis read cavs will also get the #8 pick from the pistons(not 100% sure) i like mike brown. Boozer is a good offense player, but he kept getting murder in those pick and rolls with LB or D wade | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On May 31 2011 06:52 iDoMiNaTe2.0 wrote: I don't think it's that weak of a draft wasn't the Blake Griffin draft suppose to be weak? people even doubted if BG could be a all star Harden, Evans, Jennings good players came out of that draft. Irving reminds me of CP3 Derrick Williams I personally like a lot. Also unless i mis read cavs will also get the #8 pick from the pistons(not 100% sure) i like mike brown. Boozer is a good offense player, but he kept getting murder in those pick and rolls with LB or D wade Holy smokes, I don't think Irving is anything close to Chris Paul, except maybe their size. But even if he was, can you point at any other players that you really think are going to be elite? Kemba Walker? The Morris Brothers? Alec Burks? All we know about this draft is that there are a bunch of so-so college player and like half a dozen Euros that no one has ever seen play. So, I guess if Kanter or Biyombo or Valanciunas or Vesely turn out good, then that's fine, but I don't believe for a second any regular fan would know. They are utterly unknown quantities - all we know about them is the stuff we hear. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
An example of this would be Harrison Barnes who should go pretty high in the draft should be enter, however due to the NBAs uncertainty this year, and the great program at UNC, he stayed for the extra year. So, you have two things happening, here we have potential lottery picks chosing to stay in school, on the other side you have weaker players putting their hat into the pool because they know this is the year they can get selected. It should almost improve next years draft to a position so high that this years draft is pretty much nullified outside of the top 5 players and 5 random picks who with opportunity and good coaching become good. | ||
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On May 31 2011 07:47 Holcan wrote: its a lock out year, so because of the uncertainty a lot of players will stay who might have entered the draft, not saying theres many other people out there to go into the draft, but just saying there wasnt as much drive to prove you belong in this draft this year, i guess. An example of this would be Harrison Barnes who should go pretty high in the draft should be enter, however due to the NBAs uncertainty this year, and the great program at UNC, he stayed for the extra year. So, you have two things happening, here we have potential lottery picks chosing to stay in school, on the other side you have weaker players putting their hat into the pool because they know this is the year they can get selected. It should almost improve next years draft to a position so high that this years draft is pretty much nullified outside of the top 5 players and 5 random picks who with opportunity and good coaching become good. It's not just Barnes but also Terrence and Perry Jones, OSU's Jared Sullinger and UNC's John Henson. That's at least 4 guys who would be top 10 in this draft that didn't declare. That hurts this draft a lot, I'd think. | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On May 31 2011 08:32 slyboogie wrote: It's not just Barnes but also Terrence and Perry Jones, OSU's Jared Sullinger and UNC's John Henson. That's at least 4 guys who would be top 10 in this draft that didn't declare. That hurts this draft a lot, I'd think. Personally, I hope they add another year before kids can leave college. I would love to see better play at the NCAA level. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On May 31 2011 08:32 slyboogie wrote: It's not just Barnes but also Terrence and Perry Jones, OSU's Jared Sullinger and UNC's John Henson. That's at least 4 guys who would be top 10 in this draft that didn't declare. That hurts this draft a lot, I'd think. Yea, I dunno jack shit about the draftees, just someone I thought who stepped his game up late season/in the tournament perhaps to incite scouts towards a higher pick. Jared Sullinger is an absolute beast. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
Personally, I hope they add another year before kids can leave college. I would love to see better play at the NCAA level. I agree with you from a fan perspective. I'd like to see a better product in both college and in the NBA. Imagine Anthony Randolph with college experience. What if Josh Smith played for UNC? Still, I'm also kind of a labor guy and I can't think of any valid reason to prevent young men from exercising their agency to work. They have a marketable skill - we shouldn't prevent them from earning with it. Yea, I dunno jack shit about the draftees, just someone I thought who stepped his game up late season/in the tournament perhaps to incite scouts towards a higher pick. Jared Sullinger is an absolute beast. Well, we can both agree that Barnes and Sullinger were top 5 picks. You're definitely right that it'll make 2012 a very very nice draft class. Clippers have the Timberwolves pick!!! Bledsoe/EJ/Harrison Barnes/Blake/DeAndre!!!! 2012!!! | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On May 31 2011 08:56 slyboogie wrote: I agree with you from a fan perspective. I'd like to see a better product in both college and in the NBA. Imagine Anthony Randolph with college experience. What if Josh Smith played for UNC? Still, I'm also kind of a labor guy and I can't think of any valid reason to prevent young men from exercising their agency to work. They have a marketable skill - we shouldn't prevent them from earning with it. Just think about the player of the year race last year, then imagine if 2 years were required who would have been back and in that race. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On May 31 2011 08:41 BloodNinja wrote: Personally, I hope they add another year before kids can leave college. I would love to see better play at the NCAA level. There's no rule saying that great college players have to leave college their second year. For whatever reasons, they've decided that the best decisions for their interests is to declare for the nba. 1 year is kind of nice for them, because they still get the college affiliation. Durant is supposedly taking summer courses every summer, over which time he'll eventually get his degree in like 10 years. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On May 31 2011 09:22 igotmyown wrote: There's no rule saying that great college players have to leave college their second year. For whatever reasons, they've decided that the best decisions for their interests is to declare for the nba. 1 year is kind of nice for them, because they still get the college affiliation. Durant is supposedly taking summer courses every summer, over which time he'll eventually get his degree in like 10 years. Or, if heaven forbid, he gets injured he will be able to progress it faster, improving his chances of getting a good career past his playing career. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On May 31 2011 10:00 Holcan wrote: Or, if heaven forbid, he gets injured he will be able to progress it faster, improving his chances of getting a good career past his playing career. Well, Kevin Durant is set for life; even if he got injured, NBA contracts are guaranteed. Any further class at UT would just be for self-enrichment and fulfillment. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On May 30 2011 17:07 OneOther wrote: Hmm could the Heat possibly start James/Wade/Bosh/Haslem/Miller? They rode this lineup to victories in Games 4 and 5 versus the Bulls especially in crunch time. That was the lineup envisioned when they made the team last summer. THanks to endless injuries by Haslem and Miller it's taken us to get to the NBA finals to actually see it in action. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On May 31 2011 11:03 slyboogie wrote: Well, Kevin Durant is set for life; even if he got injured, NBA contracts are guaranteed. Any further class at UT would just be for self-enrichment and fulfillment. Antoine Walker? And few draftees will end up as superstars, there will be more role players who may have to rely on their few years in the nba as a "retirement fund" for the next 50 years or so. The degree can help them with an alternative career, or better yet, being able to leverage their money into wealth. It would be kind of sad 30 years after a player retires, they've done absolutely nothing career-wise except a little TV work. Now this might sound as an argument for more years of college, but increasing your base funds for investment with extra years in the nba will help more than not delaying a year of college. | ||
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