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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
December 23 2011 02:59 GMT
#281
does anything change about zot/ascension run when you have 15 runes?
it's my first day
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
December 23 2011 03:09 GMT
#282
On December 23 2011 11:59 myopia wrote:
does anything change about zot/ascension run when you have 15 runes?

Your penis gains one inch for each rune past the first 3.

And the score changes depending on how many runes you have.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 05:33:25
December 24 2011 05:20 GMT
#283
I've been trying playing NaTm; should I just stay unarmed? Specifically, I want to take advantage of Naga's good Stealth learning and try to stab things; is that the wrong route (I guess I should just transform into stuff and beat the shit out of people?) Do I get stab bonuses from Blade Hands?


(Last run, I was worshipping Chei, but using daggers (had draining and electro)... then I equipped a curse -3, -3 sword without any scrolls and died to a komodo dragon, or whatever makes you sick! Joy!)
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ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
December 24 2011 05:35 GMT
#284
I think I'm gonna try this out... but I have almost no crawling experience. The closest I've gotten, is desktop dungeons, which is like 10-20 minute mini-crawls.

Any advice for a noobie?
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
December 24 2011 06:18 GMT
#285
On December 24 2011 14:20 ]343[ wrote:
I've been trying playing NaTm; should I just stay unarmed? Specifically, I want to take advantage of Naga's good Stealth learning and try to stab things; is that the wrong route (I guess I should just transform into stuff and beat the shit out of people?) Do I get stab bonuses from Blade Hands?


(Last run, I was worshipping Chei, but using daggers (had draining and electro)... then I equipped a curse -3, -3 sword without any scrolls and died to a komodo dragon, or whatever makes you sick! Joy!)

Unarmed stabbing is really bad. You can passwall-stab and dig-stab if you want to use short blades--but then you should probably start as a Stalker since you actually get to start with those spells--or you can train stabbing (but not short blades) and carry a dagger to stab stuff, but honestly you will probably be more effective by transforming and beating up everything in forms.

Forms hit really hard, and they're basically all super good except Dragon Form because Dragon Form is too hard to cast unless you're a draconian ... and additionally you'll want ice magic for Ice Form and other really good ice spells.

The point of Stealth for a Transmuter is so that you can spot an enemy at max range, back up one space and prepare, and then go in already-buffed. Or if it's something you don't want to fight (mostly uniques) then you spot it at max range, drop a travel exclusion, and go away. Leveling up Stealth somewhat is rarely a bad decision if you're walking around in light armour since it lets you pick your fights better, so your aptitude isn't wasted. This is doubly true if you worship Chei since with Chei once you go in, you're not going to back out of a fight unless you blow teleportation or multiple (semi)controlled blinks.
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Goolpsy
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark301 Posts
December 24 2011 09:44 GMT
#286
Joined in on the fun! died in 3 of the tutorials, but reached D7 on 3rd run - HE hunter of Chei! God i feel manly or smt...

Anyone playing the webtiles, so i can stalk and observe them xD?
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
December 24 2011 09:46 GMT
#287
On December 24 2011 14:35 ClysmiC wrote:
I think I'm gonna try this out... but I have almost no crawling experience. The closest I've gotten, is desktop dungeons, which is like 10-20 minute mini-crawls.

Any advice for a noobie?


Play the tiles version.
Roflsaurus
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6 Posts
December 25 2011 02:48 GMT
#288
Just started playing this awesome roguelike game again. Ascended a few times in 0.8, now I'm trying for a 15-rune win with a HECj in 0.9. Currently worshipping Vehumet, and am planning on using Tornado as my main damage spell for late game. I heard it was changed significantly in 0.9 though, is it still as strong as it used to be?
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 06:15:31
December 25 2011 06:07 GMT
#289
Tornado is still pretty strong. I never actually used it pre-0.10 (where it got changed again from 0.9, according to the learndb) but it was good enough along with Chain Lightning to get my HEAE through 15 runes with little trouble (I think I posted the morgue last page). I did just bypass most of the pan and hell lords though, since neither Tornado nor Chain Lightning are really very good at killing stuff with that much HP and rElec.

---

Won a HaHu of Nemelex. I didn't really use slings much past the early game but I picked Hu after a few failed Ar starts because they're much stronger right away. It's hilarious how buff your sling is right out of the gate since you end up one-shotting a fair number of enemies, and you could probably go Oka or Trog and really have a field day with slings if you wanted. But Nemelex is more fun so I went that route. I ended up pulling four Experience cards out of the one deck of wonders Nemelex gave me and two other randomly-generated decks. I also got three rings of slaying, with the worst being +0,+5 (too bad they're not as good as in 0.9). Other than that and having a lot of potions of cure mutation available my finds were pretty average. I found only one rod (Demonology, which I didn't bother using since decks of summoning are better), one scroll of acquirement (got me a rod of smiting, which is ok but not great), pretty decent jewellery and generally bad armour until late.

But between Halflings having really good aptitudes and Nemelex being really good I didn't have a lot of trouble, except for an encounter with a tentacled monstrosity where I didn't know I could actually break out of constriction (oops!!).

It was amusing being able to cast all my buffs and then use my crystal ball of energy to immediately recover the ~15 MP I just spent. Also amusing that I found an amulet of the gourmand with Hunger+.

http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/crate/morgue-crate-20111225-054307.txt
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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
December 26 2011 04:45 GMT
#290
Stalkers are amazingly fun. I have a newfound appreciation for Passwall and Dig now.

http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/crate/morgue-crate-20111226-042003.txt

The only trouble spots were me doing silly things, since I got to 27 stealth really early thanks to Spriggans' absurd aptitude plus Ash skill boost, which let me pick my fights for the remainder of the game.

This was a pretty neat game for me since I got to try out some spells that were new to me, as well as my first Ashenzari game. I'd rarely picked up Passwall or Dig before, rarely used Projected Noise, and had never learned Darkness or the new Metabolic Englaciation. All of them worked out quite nicely. Passwall and Dig led to the majority of my stabs until I picked up Invisibility, and I also got the ice fiend ice cave but still got all the loot by digging around the outside and avoiding all the enemies altogether (thanks to Ash scrying and enemy/item detection so I could actually know where I was going). Projected Noise got me to the loot in the Elf:5 vault while only having to take out a few Annihilators and Sorcerers, which were easy enough to kill--I managed to draw the rest of the elves far enough away to sneak past (with more patience I probably could've used it better in Zot:5 too). Darkness was pretty decent in that it just means you can sneak past stuff better, but I'm not sure I'd normally learn it even on a stealth character. Metabolic Englaciation apparently is a slow on everything not-cold-resistant in your LOS now, which partially (?) bypasses monster MR, so it let me kill Orb Guardians without needing Haste, though that wasn't a big deal. Pretty nice spell though for a 3-rune win.

Most of the game was running around with autoexplore, setting an exclusion on everything I saw, and then using Dig/Passwall to stab everything. Lots of fun. Ash is a really strong god in the midgame since you get massive skill level boosts and the scrying is ridiculously effective on stabby types.
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ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
December 26 2011 05:03 GMT
#291
[image loading]

Shot down by my own orc in one of my more promising games. Some stupid popcorn monster like a rat or something turned a corner and my well groomed sorcerer flipped the fuck out and started nuking the entire room. Fuck that. Makes me want to try something other than HOPr...

next mission: HEWz
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
December 26 2011 21:05 GMT
#292
I just found a +3, +1 hand axe of distortion as a DDNe (skilled axes). From what I know, the distortion brand is good but dangerous. Is it worth equipping it? I'm XL 9 right now.
Whaaaa?
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-26 21:21:35
December 26 2011 21:20 GMT
#293
The distortion brand is a pretty good brand, except unwielding it can have rather disastrous effects such as damage or getting abyssed.

Since you're not entirely based around weapons as a necromancer, you could probably get away with putting it on, but its low enchantment will be problematic later on unless you're ready to dump scrolls in it.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
December 26 2011 21:21 GMT
#294
meh, it's only a hand axe. Have you not found a war axe by now?
it's my first day
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
December 26 2011 21:32 GMT
#295
No, all I have are hand axes :/ I guess I'll just stick to my weaker +0/+1 hand axe until I find a better twohanded axe or something. So far, nothing has caused me too much trouble.
Whaaaa?
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
December 27 2011 06:02 GMT
#296
I just died for the first time and I'm not sure what happened.

I was at a temple and I was going to click on an altar or some shit... anyway, I press shift or ctrl and suddenly my character starts searching for like a million turns and I almost starve to death. I then go searching for food on a level that is way too hard and end up getting killed.
Goolpsy
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark301 Posts
December 27 2011 12:47 GMT
#297
Guys i need help
Im stuck in D7 with my DEWz xl8, D8 is full of wargs and elephant packs, and all stairs are fairly close...
Any advice?
My strategy for the wargs was to surround them with imps and hope for the best..
Even explored everything? on the prior levels, including Grinder, Sigmund, Yiuf..
I got a wand of polymorph, and the standard spellbook...
HELP :D
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
December 27 2011 13:32 GMT
#298
On December 27 2011 21:47 Goolpsy wrote:
Guys i need help
Im stuck in D7 with my DEWz xl8, D8 is full of wargs and elephant packs, and all stairs are fairly close...
Any advice?
My strategy for the wargs was to surround them with imps and hope for the best..
Even explored everything? on the prior levels, including Grinder, Sigmund, Yiuf..
I got a wand of polymorph, and the standard spellbook...
HELP :D

Go downstairs and find something easier. Chances are Xom is playing with you or there is a rare temple of xom map on that level. Elephants are not something to be fucked with, forget about the level until you cleared the first 4 floors of the lair then go back there and farm the exp. Keep in mind that wargs are magic resistant and are as fast as hasted(x1.5) or even faster(x2.0), depending on your version.
Goolpsy
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark301 Posts
December 27 2011 14:56 GMT
#299
meh.. ended up beating 2 elephants and a streamdragon (all waiting at the botton of the stairs), only to die pityfullyand stupidly 2 rooms later to an Orc wizard
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
December 28 2011 02:26 GMT
#300
What do you guys advice for the Abyss?

I got shot there by some unique sorc with teal armor around level 15 and couldn't find the exit. I ran around for a little while but kept getting chased by scary things. I was able to just dance around for a bit, but then a pack of speedy hellhounds came at me casting fireball. I hasted myself and ran away, only to run straight into some sort of steamcloud breathing dragon.

I had no chance. What should I do next time? Keep randomly searching for the exit and hope I dont die? Is there no better way to handle that?
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