EPTIn reality, the best way to deal with it is not getting abyssed in the first place. There are not a lot of uniques and monsters that can abyss you, and knowing them all will go a far way. They are, according to the learnDB: draconian shifters, deep elf demonologists/sorcerers, Louise and SOME (ancient) liches, wizards, deep elf magi, ogre-magi, Erolcha, and pan lords.
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beef42
Denmark1037 Posts
In reality, the best way to deal with it is not getting abyssed in the first place. There are not a lot of uniques and monsters that can abyss you, and knowing them all will go a far way. They are, according to the learnDB: draconian shifters, deep elf demonologists/sorcerers, Louise and SOME (ancient) liches, wizards, deep elf magi, ogre-magi, Erolcha, and pan lords. | ||
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
For everyone else's reference, the dude had on a bright teal suit that had a spiked, elongated helm and shoulderpads. He looked like a bitch. Run away from him at all costs. | ||
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myopia
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crate
United States2474 Posts
If you're a Naga just don't get Abyssed unless you worship Lugonu, lol. | ||
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beef42
Denmark1037 Posts
On December 28 2011 13:09 myopia wrote: I've been trying to get an Arcane Marksman off the ground for days now... it's not going so well. AFAIK there isn't a race that gets bonuses to both bows and hexes, so I'm running Human. I inevitably get killed when some monster resists my spells 4 times in a row, then run out of ammo, and am forced to melee with an untrained short blade. I'm going to get obvious here and suggest a slinging spriggan or kobold (honourable mention to halflings for rocking at slings but sucking at everything else). I have a hard-on for slings because they shoot fast and because you can use common rocks in a pinch. The racial choice is between slightly better fighting and carnivorous vs. being a fast and magical vegetarian. In both cases I would probably go for Okawaru and hope for good gifts. Fedhas should be mentioned too for his synergy with ranged and for being awesome. I tried SpAM (heh) and it's kinda like SpEn except instead of stabbing you train slings, and you don't get invisibility in the starting book. | ||
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beef42
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United States2474 Posts
Here's what my HaHu had with 11 spellcasting levels: a - Deflect Missiles Air/Chrm #######... Excellent 6 Honeycomb Ko Charms aptitude is awful so either you sink a lot of extra experience into it or you don't cast Haste. You need more than 11 Charms to make Haste reliable. Ko has worse Tloc aptitude also, which means more experience to cast Phase Shift or cblink (I didn't find cblink in the above game). This adds up to significantly more extra experience spent than what Halflings spend on leveling spellcasting. edit: I should note that while this is a HaHu I only used slings in the early game (rod of smiting + decks + wands later), so this is not necessarily indicative of what an AM-type would have. edit2: In case my point isn't clear I'm saying that Ha has better spellcasting aptitudes overall than Ko for an AM-type since they get pluses in the two most important spell schools, one of which Ko has a -2 aptitude in. This in addition to better shield and sling apt and better HP (though worse fighting, which makes the HP kind of a wash). edit: Oh, wow, I just checked out the AM starting book ... I guess at least it has Corona ... seems a pretty crappy book to me, I'd rather start as a Hu or Wr and then just pick up spells from actually good books later. | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
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On December 30 2011 06:40 Misder wrote: For some reason, I got telportitis, disease resistance and str -1 without eating anything that would mutate me (at least I don't think). Is there any enemy that would mutate you pre-dungeon 8? Most likely it was from someone zapping a wand at you. Polymorph other will mutate you. | ||
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Misder
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Plus Lugonu is awesome anyway; just banish anything that's too annoying or difficult to kill until you start seeing stuff with really high MR, and Corruption is great. | ||
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Cheezewhiz
United States5 Posts
<a href="http://imgur.com/rXu9a"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/rXu9a.jpg" alt="" title="Hosted by imgur.com" /></a> | ||
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United States2474 Posts
--- Got my tenth win on CAO just now as a DrAK (so now I'm part of goodplayers, yay). Distortion weapons are not good for actually winning, but they're fun (I used a battleaxe of distortion and won anyway). Lugonu seems really strong actually ... in the early game you have banishment which works on everything you'll see; in the midgame you get Corruption which is outrageously powerful (it's basically like summoning 30 or so minor servants with Makhleb at once, though you can only use it once per floor and you can't swap positions with them); and then once you find an Abyss portal you can pretty much just scum the Abyss indefinitely if you want, since you're almost guaranteed to kill enough things each trip to be able to afford to Lugonu-gate yourself out. Plus something pretty close to life-saving if you have at least ***** piety, though at huge cost. The Abyss is so much less stressful when you know you can just instantly leave without so much as taking adjacent enemies with you too, and the rune is more common to boot. | ||
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
10 times is really an accomplishment. cheers! /// congrats cheezewiz too! im still searching for my first win, so to hear someone else has gotten it is very inspirational. | ||
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
Sometimes you get some badass companions to help you out of a sticky situation, and others, you summon 4 unfriendly sun demons at once. T.T | ||
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
I've never been here before and I'm not sure what to do. Troll Fighter: Unarmed God: Xom rofl, I think I'm screwed. edit: lol, one-shot by the minotaur | ||
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
yeah probably would have been better to fight the hydra Ive only been to the labryinth once. It was on my best run, so my guy was pretty beefy. I had no trouble hacking the minotaur apart. | ||
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
Wondering if its worth training long blades for? I'm already at 13 maces with a +3/+0 Dwarven Great Mace of Draining. I'm thinking no? | ||
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