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redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
September 11 2011 14:52 GMT
#801
Can't believe I missed the race. Hopefully it will go up on the interwebs soon. From the forums it seems Schumi raced like the god he is. Kudos to hamilton for not crashing into Schumi.
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
September 11 2011 20:07 GMT
#802
Vettel drove very well today, but Schumacher was again showing his skill at forcing people off the track and making numerous blocking moves without getting penalties. It cost Hamilton second, and possibly a fight with Seb although I think he was too fast today.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Asshat
Profile Joined September 2010
593 Posts
September 11 2011 22:42 GMT
#803
On September 11 2011 23:52 redviper wrote:
Can't believe I missed the race. Hopefully it will go up on the interwebs soon. From the forums it seems Schumi raced like the god he is. Kudos to hamilton for not crashing into Schumi.


It depends on who you ask, if you inquire the English about it they'll tell you Schumacher acted like the bloody criminal he is and is lucky he didn't receive a 15 place punishment for his antics in today's race.

For everyone else, he did an incredible job, indeed.
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
September 12 2011 01:45 GMT
#804
Well Brundle, Coulthard, Jordan, Button and Charlie Whiting all believe he was being naughty shall we say. People who know a thing or two about racing and more importantly, the rules.
Good to see the stewards have a sense of humour too, giving Liuzzi a 5 place penalty for the next race
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
September 12 2011 02:32 GMT
#805
Despite the season been dominatted by one driver I've pretty much enjoyed every race. There's always been some action going on somewhere.
Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
September 12 2011 17:24 GMT
#806
I think Schumi did a 'double move' once or so, other than that i'd say it was mostly the english cheering for their guy, it's like when i watched david haye vs klitschko

Can't blame them for cheering for their own guys but just take it with a grain of salt :p
whatthefat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States918 Posts
September 12 2011 19:19 GMT
#807
Nice to see Schumacher looking so race-y. I hope he stays on for next season.
SlayerS_BoxeR: "I always feel sorry towards Greg (Grack?) T_T"
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
September 14 2011 13:41 GMT
#808
While I am a fan of Hamilton and yes I am English that just seems a foolish point to debate.
Here is the rule : Manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as more than one change of direction to defend a position, deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are not permitted

I could quite a raft of drivers comments saying how what Sxhumacher did was out of order, but that would turn into a very long post.

How about the Steward from Monza?
http://twitter.com/#!/DerekDaly500/status/113682785507606528

But I guess its just me, yeah right. The guy has been cheating his whole career as I pointed out in another post. I can only imagine what this forum would be like if Lewis had done a fraction of what Schumacher has.
This was penalised for blocking.


On another note, Vettel made an offical complaint to the stewards about Alonso forcing him off even though he decided to take to the grass unlike Hamilton who was forced off. Did Lewis use his platinum card to complain? No.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
September 20 2011 19:31 GMT
#809


It's not quite rainy season in Singapore yet, but, still, it looks like we might get a wet race on Sunday
ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
September 23 2011 11:44 GMT
#810


I would like to go to this race, looks good from the plans. Nice to see our colonial friends have a race again after the farce and average track of Indy.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
September 23 2011 12:16 GMT
#811
If Vettel wins and alonso isn't on the podium, he takes the world title yes?
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 12:26:25
September 23 2011 12:23 GMT
#812
On September 23 2011 21:16 BookTwo wrote:
If Vettel wins and alonso isn't on the podium, he takes the world title yes?


If Vettel
-finishes anywhere on the podium in any of the last 6 races,
OR
-gains a combined 13 points out of the last 6 races

he becomes world champion. WC is practically over.

Edit: 13, not 11
ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 13:07:04
September 23 2011 13:06 GMT
#813
On September 23 2011 21:23 zere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 21:16 BookTwo wrote:
If Vettel wins and alonso isn't on the podium, he takes the world title yes?


If Vettel
-finishes anywhere on the podium in any of the last 6 races,
OR
-gains a combined 13 points out of the last 6 races

he becomes world champion. WC is practically over.

Edit: 13, not 11

Your answer seems only to be correct if there were 5 races to go.

If Alonso won the last 6 races and Vettel gained just 13 points Vettel would end at 297 (284+13) and Alonso would end at 322 (172 + 6*25).

However if Vettel wins Singapore and Alonso isn't on the podium the best case for Alonso would be to take 4th at Singapore and win the last 5 races in which case he would get 309 (172+12+25*5) and Vettel would get just his Singapore points and end at 309 (284+25), but Vettel would win on race wins (9 vs 6).

It would however be possible for Button or Webber to win despite Vettel winning in Singapore if one of them got 2nd in Singapore + 5 last race wins and Vettel just got 1st in Singapore because then Button/Webber would end at 310 (167+18+25*5) while Vettel would end at 309 (284+25).
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
September 23 2011 13:16 GMT
#814
look, the likelihood of vettel not having another win this year, let alone another podium, LET ALONE finishing in the points, like zere said, the wc is almost over.

zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
September 23 2011 13:58 GMT
#815
Uh yea, what rasnj said ^_^ I ended up with 5 races to go, wtf? Singapore already over? haha
ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
September 23 2011 14:25 GMT
#816
As for today, Red Bull looking very fast again as always. Webber had a very silly accident with Glock which ended Glock's session early (possible penalty?). Curious story has been featured on BBC though, to do with the Monza spec diffuser of Webbers car. Apparently a fan took a video of the car as it was being lifted off the track which showed the diffuser in detail. Questions have been asked about the legality of it but people seem to agree it was legal. I dont understand copyright but it has been taken down, I thought as it was made by a fan it was fine, especially when there are plenty of FOM stuff on youtube.

This is what Ted wrote: Red Bull's mechanics have spent the season trying to hide the intricacies of the car's design from prying eyes, but one critical part of the car is secret no longer. Marshals recovering Mark Webber's crashed car at the Italian Grand Prix lifted it up into the air and left it hanging there while they waited for a recovery truck to take it back to the pits. The floor and new diffuser were filmed by a fan, and his video has become required viewing for aerodynamicists from the other teams. It shows several things: Red Bull's clever treatment of the floor around the rear wheels - a crucial area in controlling air from the exhausts and air coming off and around the rear tyres. There's the location and design of the hole for the starter motor, which all teams integrate into their diffuser as well as the design of the guide vanes in the diffuser itself. But it also shows a small aerofoil on the upper edge of the car's diffuser. A new part in Italy is an extension around the sides, which is instrumental in the RB7 achieving its impressive high speed downforce. I am told chief technical officer Adrian Newey is so cross about the video that he is refusing to watch it!
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1103 Posts
September 23 2011 18:21 GMT
#817
have to say I really don't much like the Singapore GP but who knows it could be an interesting race.... curious to see the amount of development Ferrari are still putting on this years car when they have no chance of winning anything...
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
September 23 2011 18:59 GMT
#818
On September 24 2011 03:21 baldgye wrote:
have to say I really don't much like the Singapore GP but who knows it could be an interesting race.... curious to see the amount of development Ferrari are still putting on this years car when they have no chance of winning anything...

Ferrari have stopped development and McLaren have their last update for this race weekend.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1103 Posts
September 23 2011 19:20 GMT
#819
On September 24 2011 03:59 Aristodemus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2011 03:21 baldgye wrote:
have to say I really don't much like the Singapore GP but who knows it could be an interesting race.... curious to see the amount of development Ferrari are still putting on this years car when they have no chance of winning anything...

Ferrari have stopped development and McLaren have their last update for this race weekend.



but havn't they brought updates to this weekend?? hence all the aero paint they where running in P1 and P2??
Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
September 24 2011 10:31 GMT
#820
On September 23 2011 23:25 Aristodemus wrote:
As for today, Red Bull looking very fast again as always. Webber had a very silly accident with Glock which ended Glock's session early (possible penalty?). Curious story has been featured on BBC though, to do with the Monza spec diffuser of Webbers car. Apparently a fan took a video of the car as it was being lifted off the track which showed the diffuser in detail. Questions have been asked about the legality of it but people seem to agree it was legal. I dont understand copyright but it has been taken down, I thought as it was made by a fan it was fine, especially when there are plenty of FOM stuff on youtube.

This is what Ted wrote: Red Bull's mechanics have spent the season trying to hide the intricacies of the car's design from prying eyes, but one critical part of the car is secret no longer. Marshals recovering Mark Webber's crashed car at the Italian Grand Prix lifted it up into the air and left it hanging there while they waited for a recovery truck to take it back to the pits. The floor and new diffuser were filmed by a fan, and his video has become required viewing for aerodynamicists from the other teams. It shows several things: Red Bull's clever treatment of the floor around the rear wheels - a crucial area in controlling air from the exhausts and air coming off and around the rear tyres. There's the location and design of the hole for the starter motor, which all teams integrate into their diffuser as well as the design of the guide vanes in the diffuser itself. But it also shows a small aerofoil on the upper edge of the car's diffuser. A new part in Italy is an extension around the sides, which is instrumental in the RB7 achieving its impressive high speed downforce. I am told chief technical officer Adrian Newey is so cross about the video that he is refusing to watch it!


You can read about it here - http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/


Red bull looking strong again this weekened. Have to say, it does indeed look like Vettel will take the WC this weekend. Still cannot wait though, as Singapore is such a great track to watch F1. However from a drivers perspective, it must be a nightmare. All the corners look exactly the same, and there is loads of them! lol
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