On September 14 2011 22:41 Aristodemus wrote: While I am a fan of Hamilton and yes I am English that just seems a foolish point to debate. Here is the rule : Manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as more than one change of direction to defend a position, deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are not permitted
I could quite a raft of drivers comments saying how what Sxhumacher did was out of order, but that would turn into a very long post.
But I guess its just me, yeah right. The guy has been cheating his whole career as I pointed out in another post. I can only imagine what this forum would be like if Lewis had done a fraction of what Schumacher has. This was penalised for blocking.
On another note, Vettel made an offical complaint to the stewards about Alonso forcing him off even though he decided to take to the grass unlike Hamilton who was forced off. Did Lewis use his platinum card to complain? No.
LOL
You have been following formula 1 very selectively it seems. Whatever Schumacher did during his career was not even close to the stunts Senna and the likes pulled during their careers. Senna literally forced his opponents to make a choice. Either stay behind him or crash into him. Yet his maneuvers are not nearly as controversially discussed as Schumacher's.
On September 14 2011 22:41 Aristodemus wrote: While I am a fan of Hamilton and yes I am English that just seems a foolish point to debate. Here is the rule : Manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as more than one change of direction to defend a position, deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are not permitted
I could quite a raft of drivers comments saying how what Sxhumacher did was out of order, but that would turn into a very long post.
But I guess its just me, yeah right. The guy has been cheating his whole career as I pointed out in another post. I can only imagine what this forum would be like if Lewis had done a fraction of what Schumacher has. This was penalised for blocking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hKWehjscd4
On another note, Vettel made an offical complaint to the stewards about Alonso forcing him off even though he decided to take to the grass unlike Hamilton who was forced off. Did Lewis use his platinum card to complain? No.
LOL
You have been following formula 1 very selectively it seems. Whatever Schumacher did during his career was not even close to the stunts Senna and the likes pulled during their careers. Senna literally forced his opponents to make a choice. Either stay behind him or crash into him. Yet his maneuvers are not nearly as controversially discussed as Schumacher's.
I never claimed Senna was an angel, I didnt even mention him. Maybe I should post a full and complete history of F1 in every post for it to be a valid point. I would disagree with you saying Senna was worse than Schumacher though, perhaps you could let me know who "the likes" refers to also. You completely missed the point of my post however, and everything I said was true.
It's like Lewis doesn't even care anymore, was lazy to clip Massa like that. He seems to have a "what's the point" attitude that mirrors my own when it comes to this F1 season. Looking back, it really has been a write off.
urgh it's happening right now in singapore, yesterday was the practice round i think and god the engines sounded so sexy. couldn't see anything cus they fenced up the area :/ friends are all tweeting about it ;__;
On September 25 2011 21:31 MCDayC wrote: Lewis you plonker.
my thoughts to being with. then dc mentioned that he can't actually see his wing.
hrm.
Even so, it was a case of carelessness on the part of Lewis.
I have no love for Massa (The guy is a wet dishcloth that should retire now before he gets himself killed through fear) but Lewis will owe him an apology for that one.
lewis has said this time and again, he is an aggressive driver. its his style, and when you are constantly taking more risks than others you are bound to put yourself in the situation he gets into.
he didn't do that two weeks ago and was stuck behind schumi for over 20 laps. it suits lewis that he attacks every single corner, every single overtake, every single time.
Decent race today, Vettel seemed to be driving around like Jean Girard with his cup of tea Button and DiResta did well, Hamilton did well in damage limitation mode (justified penalty) after another unlucky weekend. Strange incident with Schumacher driving into the back of Perez not even in a braking zone, he was lucky to not be hurt. I dont often agree with Coulthard on driver of the day but I think DiResta earned it today.
On September 25 2011 22:00 BookTwo wrote: lewis has said this time and again, he is an aggressive driver. its his style, and when you are constantly taking more risks than others you are bound to put yourself in the situation he gets into.
he didn't do that two weeks ago and was stuck behind schumi for over 20 laps. it suits lewis that he attacks every single corner, every single overtake, every single time.
and I don't even like him that much.
SCHUMACHER WOWWWW CRASH
What are you saying? Hamilton is allowed to crash more because "it's his style"?
and amazing drive by seb and di resta. nice to see ricciardo beating liuzzi as well, nice to see the young aussie beating his teammate, even with the extra pit stop.
I understand Massa getting worked up its very hot, he's a racing driver and the incident cost him quite badly. But come of it that was a racing incident and in no way deliberate from Hamiltion. I don't think Hamilton should have got a penalty but that’s up to the stewards. But Massa (who I respect quite a lot) comes of looking like a bit of a whining bitch having a go at Hamilton like that.
Having said that I would say that Hamilton was ridiculous in qualifying yesterday, it was just unnecessary. If I'm honest I don't understand why McLaren sent Hamilton out to join the back of that queue at the beginning of qualifying. After having the puncture it would have made more sense to just send him out once in the middle of the session on a empty track (because most people will be trying to rush 2 runs in the time) and recover a set of tyres after having lost one with the puncture in session 2.
Sensible drive from Vettel as always, untouchable.
edit: should mention what a great host to formula one Singapore makes. Street circuits tend to make boring races. But it makes up for that with been so unique and looking so sensational and saying that the DRS and kerrs make street circuits especially this one no longer a precision like they used to be.
Valencia needs to go from the calendar it’s unbelievably boring and it doesn’t even look good.
zzzzz we've been spoilt with great F1 for a few seasons. This race was pretty meh; just nothing to fight for. Massa and Hamilton just have no respect for each other it's kinda lame. The personality of Lewis is really costing him.
Don't agree with the penalty again. Just let them race.
Interesting, usually I am the one saying his penalties were unjust but I think (based on this years stewarding) today he deserved it. However, a very similar incident happened between Rosberg and Perez that wasnt penalised. The only difference being that it was tyre on tyre instead of wing on tyre and no lasting damage came from it. Massa is Massa, he always has been temperemental and child like, his outburst doesnt surprise me one bit.
Greg, Hamilton was scheduled to do two runs in Q3 yesterday but McLaren had a fuelling issue which prevented him from getting out in time for his second run.
On September 14 2011 22:41 Aristodemus wrote: While I am a fan of Hamilton and yes I am English that just seems a foolish point to debate. Here is the rule : Manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as more than one change of direction to defend a position, deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are not permitted
I could quite a raft of drivers comments saying how what Sxhumacher did was out of order, but that would turn into a very long post.
But I guess its just me, yeah right. The guy has been cheating his whole career as I pointed out in another post. I can only imagine what this forum would be like if Lewis had done a fraction of what Schumacher has. This was penalised for blocking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hKWehjscd4
On another note, Vettel made an offical complaint to the stewards about Alonso forcing him off even though he decided to take to the grass unlike Hamilton who was forced off. Did Lewis use his platinum card to complain? No.
LOL
You have been following formula 1 very selectively it seems. Whatever Schumacher did during his career was not even close to the stunts Senna and the likes pulled during their careers. Senna literally forced his opponents to make a choice. Either stay behind him or crash into him. Yet his maneuvers are not nearly as controversially discussed as Schumacher's.
I never claimed Senna was an angel, I didnt even mention him. Maybe I should post a full and complete history of F1 in every post for it to be a valid point. I would disagree with you saying Senna was worse than Schumacher though, perhaps you could let me know who "the likes" refers to also. You completely missed the point of my post however, and everything I said was true.
You claimed that Schumacher gets some kind of special treatment, which is wrong. You also claimed there would have been different reactions if Hamilton had done the same. Ultimately no one can know for sure but imho that was also wrong. Further you claimed that Schumacher had been cheating his whole career. That is clearly wrong too.
So no, not everything of what you said was true. In fact I would argue that nothing of what you said was true, except the drivers' names maybe.
Hamilton is the most reckless driver in F1 by far. It's good that someone calls him out on it every now and then. He and Button are complete opposites of eachother. Button is just so clean and crisp.
EPT
Button and DiResta did well, Hamilton did well in damage limitation mode (justified penalty) after another unlucky weekend. Strange incident with Schumacher driving into the back of Perez not even in a braking zone, he was lucky to not be hurt. I dont often agree with Coulthard on driver of the day but I think DiResta earned it today.
